To not want ANOTHER booster?

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So I've had a pretty terrible reaction to the booster (MODERNA). Up all night throwing up, couldn't move, passed out twice, thought I was dying kinda thing.

AIBU to not want any more boosters?

What worries me is how much research has there been on multiple boosters? They haven’t had time to research this and it seemed so rushed. Japan has put myorcarditis warning on their vaccines and have now said that it’s totally optional because of this.

If you wish to avoid cardiac complications, you are safer having the vaccination than the disease

www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/

We're 3 jabs in and on the brink of tight restrictions again, that coupled with feeling horrendous after each one Its hard to see the selling point tbh

[quote RoseAndRose]If you wish to avoid cardiac complications, you are safer having the vaccination than the disease

www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/[/quote]
A fair few million of us have had the disease along with and without vaccines. A fair few million will have omicron too. Which still appears to be mild despite the absence of data.

Every jab you have trains your body's response and improves it. The virus is constantly evolving and your immune system needs to learn also. It's akin to saying I have had one driving lesson I don't need more 🤣.

It's a free upgrade to your body.

Our bodies aren't running Windows software! (Or insert your favourite brand of operating system here).

We do not need endless boosters, really 2 jabs of the basic course then a further booster should be sufficient unless the virus alters markedly (which it hasn't done as yet). Before anyone says 'but for flu we have annual jabs', yes, but the influenza virus is very different and there are several strains about. SARS-CoV-2 doesn't have this amount of variation. The booster you get is the same mRNA as the original jabs. With flu, the jabs are adjusted each year for the prevalent strains.

We do not need to be flooded constantly with neutralising antibodies, which is the current intention. We don't need this for any other immunisation. It has been shown that we get memory M and T cell formation after either contracting Covid or being immunised. This does not fade away after a few months, but shows signs of being long-lasting. Antibodies contract but will be produced as soon as there's another challenge. Constantly boosting is a waste of resources.

@CrunchyCarrot sorry but you don’t have the correct facts. For a start people are being given different vaccines as boosters to their first course due to better protection - it’s not just more mRNA.
There is no long term data on T cell immunity to Covid - scientists think it works that way but there is no long term data.
And lastly, we don’t know how much Covid can differentiate, it’s undergone a few major changes already. There could be more.

Also we don’t know how much T cells protect us.. and continue protecting us. They can’t fully protect us otherwise people wouldn’t get reinfected, which is now happening in large numbers through places like South Africa

God no. I wasn't well after first two AZ but having symptoms like you after Pfizer booster no more
That was terrifying. Had to seek medical advice, delirious, fainting, sickness I'd rather take my chances with covid. Cancer was easier!

@CrunchyCarrot

We do not need endless boosters, really 2 jabs of the basic course then a further booster should be sufficient unless the virus alters markedly (which it hasn't done as yet). Before anyone says 'but for flu we have annual jabs', yes, but the influenza virus is very different and there are several strains about. SARS-CoV-2 doesn't have this amount of variation. The booster you get is the same mRNA as the original jabs. With flu, the jabs are adjusted each year for the prevalent strains.

This all sounds very wrong. All the health authorities are reporting that the immunity from two 2 jabs of Pfizer has worn off now and actually offer ZERO % immunity against Omicron. Happy to be corrected on the details.

You really need to be careful about spreading misinformation that could potentially get people sick or dead.

We do not need to be flooded constantly with neutralising antibodies, which is the current intention. We don't need this for any other immunisation. It has been shown that we get memory M and T cell formation after either contracting Covid or being immunised. This does not fade away after a few months, but shows signs of being long-lasting. Antibodies contract but will be produced as soon as there's another challenge. Constantly boosting is a waste of resources.

Again, more baseless waffle.

I would prefer not to die of Covid so I’m happy to have an annual booster. I already have an annual flu jab so it isn’t a big problem.

I've been poorly after all 3 vaccines. First two were AZ and then Moderna. Modena gave me jelly legs.

Dh hasn't had any side effects. Ds had moderna both times and is due his 3rd one next week. He wasn't too bad with them.

But as I get horrific chest infections, I dread getting Covid.

I don't understand why the concept of ongoing vaccination boosters seems to be a surprise to some people. It's how a lot of vaccinations already work?

Happy to have them. And for anyone who might be put off by the stories of negative side effects - the likelihood of those isn't that high. I've had zero side effects for either the Pfizer jabs or the Moderna booster and the vast majority of people I know have been under the weather for a day at most.

I'm against it for young people with no risk factors.

You can report any reactions to any of the vaccines here:
yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/

There are definitely vaccines where the immunity wanes (e.g. typhoid)

I'd be happy to have an annual booster but would HATE it every 3 months - it's too much of a faff, I was really unwell after my booster

If a booster is needed every three months, I'll do it.

I was ill for a week after all 3. I was so bad after the booster that l reported it on the yellow card thing, and they contacted me for more details.

I’d still have another one,

@CatsArePeople

I wonder how many boosters it would take MN crowd to say enough is enough

I find MN is never the same as people in ‘real life’ my PIL, next door neighbour, two work colleagues and shopping delivery guy have all told me they aren’t having the booster as the vaccine rendered them by far more unwell than covid did. My FIL was in hospital for a week and my neighbour went to hospital in a terrible state. So many people are getting uneasy, especially as Israel have now announced their roll of of vaccine number four - of course all other counties will follow. But on MN, many people are insane when it comes to covid - lost the plot entirely back in March 2020 and never regained critical thinking.

@Prescottdanni123

Have you had the Moderna before?

While the sdie effects are unpleasant, vaccines are important in training your immune system to fight covid. The more boosters you have, the better trained your immune system is to recognise various strains of covid. Getting covid itself will be worse then any side effects.

How does that work considering all the vaccines in circulation were developed against covid 19, i.e the original strain. If it's just a case of the more vaccines the better why do they adapt the flu vaccine each year to protect against different strains? I know we've been told vaccine 1 = primary school, vaccine 2 = secondary school etc but that just sounds like off the top of your head bullshit to me!

@CatsArePeople

I wonder how many boosters it would take MN crowd to say enough is enough

The MN Crowd? Is that like The IT Crowd? I want to be the person who turns off the Internet but I'm afraid I'm more like Moss.