Would you comply.. Yes or no? Circuit breaker or whatever they'll decide to turn it into.

[MarmitesMyMate]

No explanation needed. Just a yes or no.

For me it's a hard NO.

You do you. Hopefully enough people with kindness and responsibility will balance you out

I'm a bit aghast at the black and white thinking also, what about kindness and responsibility to those who have suffered in all kinds of ways as a direct result of lockdown?

However, let's get back to the original point. Is it that if we're 'good' and do as we're told the covid gods will be appeased and go away?

When people say no I assume they mean minor breaks in rules like child has friend for tea after sitting next to them all day at school. Because logically it makes no sense at all and no greater risk. Rather than planning raves at home for 200 people.

Yes but I’ll stick to any rules about anything, always did at school too and now I’m a teacher 🙈 Just the way I am!

I have to say I’m not as scared of catching covid now though as I was before as my partner has it and we’ve slept in the same bed all week without knowing. I’ve tested negative and I’m now in the spare room but the fact we didn’t notice he had it and he only has not even ‘cold symptoms’, a more mild version of that. Obviously I know it’s not me catching it that’s the issue though, it’s those more vulnerable that will need hospital treatment etc etc so I’ll follow the rules and I do think if they acted a bit quicker it maybe wouldn’t have got to a full blown lockdown 🤦🏼‍♀️

@PlanetNormal

No, No, no.

Fuck you Boris and fuck your lockdown.

This.

Hopefully enough people with kindness and responsibility will balance you out.

How about kindness to those who've lost their livelihood to lockdowns?

How about kindness to those of us who watched elderly relatives waste away through loneliness and die alone of non-covid related illness?

How about kindness to those who were suicidal throughout lockdowns?

How about some responsibility towards the children who were abused and even murdered due to lack of social services throughout lockdowns, and the ones who will continue to fall through the cracks if we continue to cut off their escape routes?

How about kindness towards those who'll suffer further domestic violence if they're locked up again full time with their abusers?

The fact that some of you are still calling people selfish after all this time, having no doubt read countless threads on here of how devastating lockdowns have been for them and their families actually beggars belief.

If you want to lock yourselves down, go for it. Some of you play the martyr so well.

Is it that if we're 'good' and do as we're told the covid gods will be appeased and go away?
No, it's that if people with far better scientific knowledge than I have recommend measures, I'll do what they recommend. It doesn't mean I'm happy about it. Or that I think restrictions are a wonderful blessing and cause no harm. It also doesn't mean that I or my family haven't suffered in the past two years.

Nope.

@PlanetNormal

No, No, no.

Fuck you Boris and fuck your lockdown.

Boris will neither know nor care. However, that doesn't mean the virus won't find you.

Yes

Fuck No

If you want to lock yourselves down, go for it. Some of you play the martyr so well.
I don't understand this approach. As though not locking down would have made it all better. I'm not a martyr. You know nothing of me or my situation. Life has been hard during this past two years but I see our best chance of getting out of all this as following the guidance and hopefully seeing the pandemic end soon, as pandemics do end. Obviously we disagree, which is our right. Merry Christmas.

Yes

@sharkyandme

Yes because I don't want a fine.

You won't get fined.

The police are stretched as it is, and if a large proportion of the workforce of ill or isolating with covid they're hardly going to prioritise do isn't you for having a brew with your mate over serious crime.

It's not March 2020 anymore, crime is up again and there will be far less compliance this time round to even contemplate being able to police it.

Unless you decide you're going to hold an illegal 300 person rave, you'll not get a fine.

Jeez the typos. Had a couple of mulled wines I apologise.

*fining you

@WhatHoJeeves
If you ask an epidemiologist how to reduce covid cases of course they will recommend lockdown. They don't have to and (in fairness) have not been asked to have regard to anything other than covid when making their recommendation. If you ask an economist, psychologist, nutritionist, addiction or obesity specialist, education specialist etc. you will probably get a different answer.

Epidemiologists could recommend putting everyone in separate socially distanced cages for a month as a valid solution to the problem of covid. It doesn't mean it would be a good thing to do.

No

Epidemiologists could recommend putting everyone in separate socially distanced cages for a month as a valid solution to the problem of covid. It doesn't mean it would be a good thing to do.

Exactly. And it wouldn't mean we're 'done' or 'finished' either because covid is going precisely nowhere despite whathojeeves best efforts

@slaybell definitely a no from me then.

@KurtWildesChristmasNamechange only covid matters nowadays.

No

@MarmitesMyMate

Amazed at the people saying no.
Basically what you are saying is if one of my family is seriously ill with anything, Covid, long Covid or dies due to anything. I am happy with that guilt.

Amazing!!

[quote Cascascascas]@MarmitesMyMate

Amazed at the people saying no.
Basically what you are saying is if one of my family is seriously ill with anything, Covid, long Covid or dies due to anything. I am happy with that guilt.

Amazing!![/quote]
It’s just not that simple. You are saying that you see the suffering caused by following lockdown restrictions as more acceptable on balance. They are saying the suffering caused by not following lockdown restrictions is more acceptable on balance. (I personally don’t know where the balance should lie, I veer between a number of options, but I do at least acknowledge that all choices currently lead to high levels of suffering and chaos).

Yes but I don't live near family

Nope

Either we're all in this together or it's everyman for himself.

The concenus here is it's everyman for himself.

Well if that 's the case, me too!

I hope the schools close to most children. The fewer children in my class the safer I'll feel.