I'm DONE with Covid, omicron and want to get on with my life - is anyone else with me?

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Honestly at this point I'm done with it, I'm surprised people are complying so much with mask wearing and everything else - I thought the vaccine was freedom. Turns out I was wrong.

I've had enough - I'm not wearing my mask indoors and hope if there's a lockdown every business keeps its doors open and boycotts the decision.

I'm really surprised people are being so compliant, even if they have natural immunity and have been jagged (I have now had Covid and both jabs)

I can't be selfless anymore and keep getting boosters to protect others and stopping life, constant anxiety, life I feel should be going on now. Enough sacrifices have been made.

Aware I'll get flamed, but at the end of my tether with all of this now.

There are plenty of diseases that kill people, we have to accept the death rate now enough is enough.

If you've been vaccinated then what else do you intend to do? If you haven't then more fool you.

@paranoidnamechanger most, or at least many, human beings have something called empathy. It allows us to see other people as human, with emotions, motives, reactions like ourselves. It helps us cope in social situations by allowing us to predict how another person might act or behave in any given situation. A side effect of this is that when we see other people in situations we know we wouldnt like - homeless, sick, trying to cross the channel in a rubber dinghy - we can imagine the emotions they are feeling. This can lead to us wanting to help that person and sometimes to acting in ways that stops the negative thing that is happening to them happening in the first place.

I had a realisation last month that after almost 2 years of abject fear of catching the virus (I have underlying health conditions) that (for me) it wasn't that bad. I had cold and flu symptoms for a few days, not even a week.

I am double jabbed and boostered. I'm not scared anymore but I feel like I've completely lost a massive chunk of my life to fear. And that is not a nice feeling.

I will still wear a mask to protect myself and others, practice good hand hygiene and get the booster whenever I'm told to. I am not offended by anyone else wearing a mask because, really, why would you get in a froth about another person wearing a mask in a supermarket??

But he's to answer your question I am sick and tired of it. But it looks as though it is here to stay in its various mutations. We can still all be cautious and get our jabs etc but we can't keep putting our lives on hold.

[quote Porcupineintherough]@paranoidnamechanger most, or at least many, human beings have something called empathy. It allows us to see other people as human, with emotions, motives, reactions like ourselves. It helps us cope in social situations by allowing us to predict how another person might act or behave in any given situation. A side effect of this is that when we see other people in situations we know we wouldnt like - homeless, sick, trying to cross the channel in a rubber dinghy - we can imagine the emotions they are feeling. This can lead to us wanting to help that person and sometimes to acting in ways that stops the negative thing that is happening to them happening in the first place.[/quote]
I’m well aware of empathy, thanks. That, to me, is different from care.

I'm well aware of empathy, thanks. That, to me, is different from care.

Mmm, only in psychopathy or sadism generally. Although I agree that care doesnt necessarily translate into action.

@Porcupineintherough

I'm well aware of empathy, thanks. That, to me, is different from care.

Mmm, only in psychopathy or sadism generally. Although I agree that care doesnt necessarily translate into action.

No, you’re wrong.

Way to go with the tedious passive aggression. I’m surprised it took you so long.

In the past two years I have noticed the devaluation of science, proper, peer reviewed evidence, the hounding of the vulnerable, an enormous rise in racism and what an inherently nasty breed humans are becoming. In the name of what, one wonders. A bit more space on an island, a greater sense of a longed for but non existent cultural identity? Is it taking your view off your own sense of imminent demise? What sad, selfish people many seem to have become.

@Gilead

In the past two years I have noticed the devaluation of science, proper, peer reviewed evidence, the hounding of the vulnerable, an enormous rise in racism and what an inherently nasty breed humans are becoming. In the name of what, one wonders. A bit more space on an island, a greater sense of a longed for but non existent cultural identity? Is it taking your view off your own sense of imminent demise? What sad, selfish people many seem to have become.

Standing ovation 👏🏼

@Gilead

In the past two years I have noticed the devaluation of science, proper, peer reviewed evidence, the hounding of the vulnerable, an enormous rise in racism and what an inherently nasty breed humans are becoming. In the name of what, one wonders. A bit more space on an island, a greater sense of a longed for but non existent cultural identity? Is it taking your view off your own sense of imminent demise? What sad, selfish people many seem to have become.

Has it got worse or are people just more confident now to spout their ill informed opinions in public? Whatever the case, I agree with you.

@Gilead
I don't understand the links you are trying to draw here

I think the vast majority of people are good, law abiding, reasonable people.

Those people have done what they can and sacrificed much. Many of us have watched powerlessly as our children have lost two years of opportunity.

I think we are angry to be back in this position, largely it must be acknowledged, due to the actions of vaccine refusers. Nobody ‘wanted’ a vaccine, but most of us took it for the common good. To have our lives constantly trampled by government edicts necessitated by vaccine refuses is a very bitter pill to swallow, and many are not prepared to any more.

Yes! Fuck the weak, fuck 'em.

It's a virus. The point is that if ITU is full of those pesky weak people and the lovely fit healthy people need a bed THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A BED BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BEDS.

That is what the NHS being overwhelmed means.

@Gilead

In the past two years I have noticed the devaluation of science, proper, peer reviewed evidence, the hounding of the vulnerable, an enormous rise in racism and what an inherently nasty breed humans are becoming. In the name of what, one wonders. A bit more space on an island, a greater sense of a longed for but non existent cultural identity? Is it taking your view off your own sense of imminent demise? What sad, selfish people many seem to have become.

Well said.

Moving house

I think the current threat is actually also staff going off sick.

I’m sitting listening to DH’s phone pinging with all his hospital colleagues testing positive.

@Gilead

In the past two years I have noticed the devaluation of science, proper, peer reviewed evidence, the hounding of the vulnerable, an enormous rise in racism and what an inherently nasty breed humans are becoming. In the name of what, one wonders. A bit more space on an island, a greater sense of a longed for but non existent cultural identity? Is it taking your view off your own sense of imminent demise? What sad, selfish people many seem to have become.

This. The rise of the entitled. Made so much easier by social media and the likes of Trump.

I am all for rights and freedom for the individual. But I also believe in society and that I have a responsibility to others.

I think we're all entitled to have a life and one that's worth living. The past couple of years has clearly made some people more aware of this. Do I feel responsible to others? Hell no.

@Movinghouseatlast

Yes! Fuck the weak, fuck 'em.

It's a virus. The point is that if ITU is full of those pesky weak people and the lovely fit healthy people need a bed THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A BED BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BEDS.

That is what the NHS being overwhelmed means.

Then it becomes a questions of priority is it the weak person unlikely to survive COVID or the RTA that's likely to be home in a few weeks. If it takes off as they expect rules will have to be drawn up and it won't be first in first served.

@Gilead

In the past two years I have noticed the devaluation of science, proper, peer reviewed evidence, the hounding of the vulnerable, an enormous rise in racism and what an inherently nasty breed humans are becoming. In the name of what, one wonders. A bit more space on an island, a greater sense of a longed for but non existent cultural identity? Is it taking your view off your own sense of imminent demise? What sad, selfish people many seem to have become.

Excellent post.

@vickyc90 FFS it's not all 'weak' people with covid. Could be your mate having chemo or your work colleague with an autoimmune disease, not all 90 year olds with dementia.

@vickyc90

Where do we stand on 14 year olds with leukemia?
Young mothers with breast cancer?

How do they fit in with your thinly veiled eugenics proposal?

The problem for me is we have been promised x, y & z from the start and none of it has come true. Initially it was, "within 6 weeks we can turn this around." Then it was "wear your masks, wfh if you can, the rule of 6 etc whilst we wait for a vaccine". Then it was "once we have the vaccine, things will start to improve and we can save the NHS". Etc etc. Now it's "the first two vaccines aren't effective after so long, so we need boosters to overcome this". They have got to be having a laugh. No wonder people aren't complying anymore and no wonder people are starting to have a "fuck it" attitude. We're seeing some of the most vaccinated countries with the highest restrictions set it place - none of it makes any sense. Vast majority of people around me who have had Covid (I have a large family and most of them have contracted Covid) have been absolutely fine with very mild symptoms and whilst I appreciate some people have unfortunately died from this disease, it is starting to become something people are not afraid of.

Almost every MSM article I've read is highlighting the record number of Covid cases, but Covid cases aren't important - the number of deaths are. I can only see that they are doing this to try and scare people and more people are realising this. In fact, if you switched off the news and stopped going on social media it's almost as though Covid doesn't exist (I know it does, but my point to this is that people have had enough and scare mongering isn't working anymore!)

Why aren't we talking about the amount of people committing suicide everyday? I've lost more friends/family these past two years to suicide than Covid. I know of one person who unfortunately passed away with Covid and 4 people who have committed suicide.

Why aren't we talking about the amount of people dying from poverty? 9 million people die annually of starvation & 3 million of them are children.

I saw a post earlier that stated the government is trying to convince the unvaccinated to have their vaccines to protect you and others whilst at the same time also convincing the double vaccinated that their vaccines aren't effective so they need to have their boosters. There's talk of vaccinating quarterly - it's bonkers. Something clearly isn't working and whilst we've been following the rules for god knows how long - the government have apparently been having parties all the while having the cheek to fine the public for doing so too.

The pandemic that is so bad that we can afford to fire thousands of healthcare workers come April if they haven't had 2 doses of the vaccine.

People have had two doses of the vaccine to be able to have their freedom and they have none.

I'm really not surprised people are giving up, I could go on and on but I'm going to stop here. But yes OP, I agree with you.

Winginmumlife
Well said 👍

@wingingmumlife the things you mention obviously need addressing. Having said that , the numbers involved remain relatively static within defined parameters. Covid is not, it is therefore something that needs to be dealt with, shorter term measures in theory should be a solution, but with a pathetic government prevaricating over which methods and when; we are going to continue as we are. Proper measures, properly implemented is the only answer but half a million wet weekends didn’t want their social lives fucked up and whined about their so called freedom (whilst ignoring everyone else’s) so rather than be unpopular, the government took to dithering.

[quote Gilead]@wingingmumlife the things you mention obviously need addressing. Having said that , the numbers involved remain relatively static within defined parameters. Covid is not, it is therefore something that needs to be dealt with, shorter term measures in theory should be a solution, but with a pathetic government prevaricating over which methods and when; we are going to continue as we are. Proper measures, properly implemented is the only answer but half a million wet weekends didn’t want their social lives fucked up and whined about their so called freedom (whilst ignoring everyone else’s) so rather than be unpopular, the government took to dithering.[/quote]
There are options other than lockdowns to bring down cases.

I feel really sorry for you that you feel the non-compliance is about wanting our social lives back and that you trivialise our past freedoms from the pre-Covid days. To be that lacking in empathy seems really sad to me.

The quicker we bring in the “options other than lockdowns”, the more likely we avoid lockdowns. The frustrating thing is often those opposing lockdowns also oppose the earlier measures that prevent lockdowns

[quote Berlinkreuzberg]@vickyc90 FFS it's not all 'weak' people with covid. Could be your mate having chemo or your work colleague with an autoimmune disease, not all 90 year olds with dementia.[/quote]
Yes I am aware of that reality but I'm also a realist and know we can't save everyone. All we are doing is kicking it down the road. So if we save X now who has cancer Y who is yet to be diagnosed will be hit when we eventually go through the exit wave of this which has to happen.

Those with autoimmune disease on active treatment should be staying home until this is endemic and the circulation rate drops. They would be advised to be careful at this time of year anyway because of flu.

I think one of the biggest problems is we think lockdown and restrictions will save these people forever when it's painfully obvious everyone is going to get COVID as we can't eliminate it everywhere like we did with smallpox