I'm DONE with Covid, omicron and want to get on with my life - is anyone else with me?

[coatilove]

Honestly at this point I'm done with it, I'm surprised people are complying so much with mask wearing and everything else - I thought the vaccine was freedom. Turns out I was wrong.

I've had enough - I'm not wearing my mask indoors and hope if there's a lockdown every business keeps its doors open and boycotts the decision.

I'm really surprised people are being so compliant, even if they have natural immunity and have been jagged (I have now had Covid and both jabs)

I can't be selfless anymore and keep getting boosters to protect others and stopping life, constant anxiety, life I feel should be going on now. Enough sacrifices have been made.

Aware I'll get flamed, but at the end of my tether with all of this now.

There are plenty of diseases that kill people, we have to accept the death rate now enough is enough.

If you've been vaccinated then what else do you intend to do? If you haven't then more fool you.

If someone is past caring about something they wouldn't then spend hours writing about how past caring they are they would move on to next thing

The NHS shouldn't be sacred from accountability. But when doing so we should remember the people who have, are and will continue to try and provide the best care they can under the circumstances that they, and us, have been placed by all of this, otherwise we run the risk of them wondering what the point is and leaving all together when surrounded by negativity and blame no matter what they do.
The blame as far as I'm concerned lies with those who have mismanaged and underfunded it, expecting the staff on the floor firstly, and then the general public secondly to pick up the pieces and protect what's left.

@Cocogreen

OP life is not going to return to what it was pre-Covid for years, if ever. We are in a new era. We haven't even overcome the pandemic yet! No use crying for the moon. That world is gone. The entire world has been affected by this. Accept reality and you'll be so much happier! Adjust, pivot, adapt, change. Don't be a dinosaur.

Well that's a load of bollocks, life WAS pretty much back to 'normal' until recently. 😂

Its not my job to protect the NHS. That's what our politicians are there to do. We are vaccinated and we need to get back to normal. And I agree with PP that there are a bunch of people whose lives really havent changed other than having to wear a mask and they are usually the ones pontificating about grinning and bearing it. It's like me making a big deal out of giving up chocolate for lent when I'm not all that bothered about chocolate.

Once everybody has been vaccinated (and the vast majority are in the UK), we can respect hygiene and hand cleanliness and then leave the figure crunching to the state.

If hospitals are struggling give them more money, provide free education for staff, build more hospitals, buy more equipment, dont fucking restrict my life.

If people are nervous; with or without good reason, and scared for their health, then they should take their own necessary precautions.

There are two things that spring to kind for me.
Vaccines were promoted as being the answer to all this. They aren’t. Lots and lots of people are still getting Covid. Another mutation will be along soon when this one has faded.

Also where has the huge amount of money raised by Major Tom gone? How has it been spent and why hasn’t it made a difference? No one ever seems to ask.

Honestly. Im done with what Chris's witty or anyone else has to say. Never watch the briefings and never will. I feel almost numb to it all - past caring. I appreciate my stance offends people but I have disconnected from it all

I understand OP.

But kind of in reverse.

I have disconnected from the likes of you whining and bleating about how you're done with it all and don't really give a fuck about anyone vulnerable. You honestly believe you're something special - someone so much more worthy of a full and rich life than vulnerable people who you dismiss as collateral damage with a wee shrug.

I'm numb now, to your slack-jawed bewilderment and disappointment at how shit life can get. Past caring, as you say.

@LookslovelyinSpringtime

There are two things that spring to kind for me. Vaccines were promoted as being the answer to all this. They aren’t. Lots and lots of people are still getting Covid. Another mutation will be along soon when this one has faded.

Also where has the huge amount of money raised by Major Tom gone? How has it been spent and why hasn’t it made a difference? No one ever seems to ask.

He raised £33m. The DHSC budget in 2021 was £212.1 billion - that includes stuff like staff salary, medicines, buildings, equipment etc. But say we consider that broadly 'the NHS'. That equates to about £580million PER DAY to run health and social care - it was a drop in a very very big ocean. That's why it hasn't made a difference - it's like giving me a fiver and expecting me to change my entire life with it.

(Also, this is what it was spent on - it went to the NHS Charities Together fund, which is not about changing healthcare itself (stuff like PPE or better vaccines or treatments for Covid, in this case). But for improving quality of life in healthcare, for staff and patients. So it went on stuff like wellbeing and morale boosting)

Also, yes, vaccines for Covid don't fix everything. They do lower your risk of being seriously ill, dying, and needing hospital care, though. Which is still a benefit.

@AbsentmindedWoman

I consider psychological distress as making people just as vulnerable as physical conditions, and I think the mental/emotional impact of covid has been seriously overlooked.

Is OP supposed to care about complete strangers, I wonder? If so I find that a really strange concept.

So the vast amounts raised by Captain Tom. People saw "NHS" and donated by the bucketful. It was NHS Charities. Not "The NHS."

metro.co.uk/2021/02/02/what-the-millions-raised-for-the-nhs-by-captain-tom-moore-was-spent-on-14009294/

I can never understand the whining about how people that are vaccinated can still catch it.

@paranoidnamechanger

Is OP supposed to care about complete strangers, I wonder? If so I find that a really strange concept.

OP is past caring about any of it apparently.

@paranoidnamechanger

Is OP supposed to care about complete strangers, I wonder? If so I find that a really strange concept.

No she's not.

But OP doesn't seem to understand that uncontrolled coronavirus will impact her and her family, even if they were all totally fine getting COVID themselves (which statistically I'm sure they would be).

Dropping all restrictions doesn't mean you'll be merrily living your life as normal, it would mean living your life in an uncontrolled pandemic, and all the impacts this would have on society. Normal functioning can't continue if you've got swathes off the population ill at any one time.

I don't really expect a reply from @coatilove or @paranoidnamechanger on this as all others have gone unanswered though

[quote alienbaby]@AbsentmindedWoman

I consider psychological distress as making people just as vulnerable as physical conditions, and I think the mental/emotional impact of covid has been seriously overlooked.[/quote]
I agree. Particularly the extreme psychological distress of the elderly and disabled (of all ages). Imagine. Not only being especially vulnerable to a new disease (possibly from a lab) but also witnessing the utter contempt some appear to have for their lives. As for the sitting duck care home residents particularly during the first wave. Unimaginable psychological distress.

I consider psychological distress as making people just as vulnerable as physical conditions, and I think the mental/emotional impact of covid has been seriously overlooked.

Yes, I agree with this.

However, I am pointing out that when people like OP make it very clear that people like me are disposable, when they make it clear they are very happy to write off my life - then equally it makes it very easy for me to not give a fuck about their pain and distress.

Plenty of people who are clinically vulnerable are also really depressed by the restrictions and lockdowns, by the way - the psychological impact of covid is not just felt by people who are 'healthy' and not worried about the virus itself.

The blame as far as I'm concerned lies with those who have mismanaged and underfunded it

This.

Dropping all restrictions doesn't mean you'll be merrily living your life as normal, it would mean living your life in an uncontrolled pandemic, and all the impacts this would have on society. Normal functioning can't continue if you've got swathes off the population ill at any one time.

But OP says she’s complying with some of the restrictions. She’s not saying the virus should be uncontrolled.

@paranoidnamechanger

Is OP supposed to care about complete strangers, I wonder? If so I find that a really strange concept.

Do you? I find it odd you wouldn't.

And yet I bet they'd be happy to take tax money, that pays for schools and other public services, or healthcare treatment from the vulnerable (many work, and those who are unable or retired still pay tax including VAT).

We live in a society. Rights and responsibilities. Don't want that, then go live completely offgrid.

The horrible irony is the eugenics lite - the devaluing of the elderly and younger disabled - is the very reason why we're still in such a mess. The countries that took decent mitigation measures, whilst obviously still not completely normal, are closer to normal than us. And that they're not completely back to normal is thanks to high risk countries like the UK - because our failure to deal with it has prolonged the whole pandemic.

Chris Whitty quietly but forcefully made the salient point a couple of days ago to a Tory MP owning him in the process.

twitter.com/drbenwhite/status/1471454713539436548

@Cocogreen thats really not helpful , people are down already to think we might never get normal back is too hard to contemplate for many of us
We have to believe it will get better otherwise what is the point
Im sad on the time i have missed with family and friends and that my kids and others haven't got to have a carefree childhood
But it was better in the summer than it is now and I have to believe it will be better again

@paranoidnamechanger

Is OP supposed to care about complete strangers, I wonder? If so I find that a really strange concept.

Really? Or is this sarcasm?

And of course it's generally not the elderly and more frail disabled in ICU with Covid. They're not physically strong enough. It's the apparently bullet proof young and healthy in intensive care.
Meanwhile, Long Covid is ensuring that many previously young and healthy are finding themselves overnight members of the Vulnerable club.

[quote vera99]Chris Whitty quietly but forcefully made the salient point a couple of days ago to a Tory MP owning him in the process.

twitter.com/drbenwhite/status/1471454713539436548[/quote]
yup

"a complete inversion of reality"

if we don't crack COVID everything else will suffer

[quote worriedatthemoment]@Cocogreen thats really not helpful , people are down already to think we might never get normal back is too hard to contemplate for many of us
We have to believe it will get better otherwise what is the point
Im sad on the time i have missed with family and friends and that my kids and others haven't got to have a carefree childhood
But it was better in the summer than it is now and I have to believe it will be better again [/quote]
Pfizer's antiviral sounds very promising. The other one is good news too, just not quite as effective - but definitely it all helps.

We'll also have wider availability of the (not miracle cure but very very good for many patients) monoclonal antibody treatments.

And we'll have more of the world vaccinated in the future.

Keep hope.

There is light at the end of the long tunnel.