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Considering whether schools might close in Janl?

453 replies

PigeonLittle · 14/12/2021 20:29

Trying to create a title so as not to panic anyone!

What are your guesses, will schools close again?

OP posts:
Comedycook · 15/12/2021 13:20

Every single child on my street continued to go to school except mine because their parents were "key workers". One parent who sent their child in told me they were pleased the school was shut to the other kids as it was safer for hers...Made me sick quite frankly

MarshaBradyo · 15/12/2021 13:25

@Comedycook

Every single child on my street continued to go to school except mine because their parents were "key workers". One parent who sent their child in told me they were pleased the school was shut to the other kids as it was safer for hers...Made me sick quite frankly
God I bet.
VikingOnTheFridge · 15/12/2021 13:32

You did well not to cough in her face when she said that.

Comedycook · 15/12/2021 13:34

@VikingOnTheFridge

You did well not to cough in her face when she said that.
Ironically her dc caught covid and all the keyworker kids in that bubble had to isolate for ten days
OriginalM · 15/12/2021 13:46

@TikTokBitches

I think it was meant as every single parent as in all parents, not every parent who is single.
Surely it would be phrased 'every parent' by saying every single parent to me reads as single parents?
Kokeshi123 · 15/12/2021 13:48

"1 in 10 will get a form of long covid."
Wish people would stop repeating this myth.

VikingOnTheFridge · 15/12/2021 13:53

@Kokeshi123

"1 in 10 will get a form of long covid." Wish people would stop repeating this myth.
Saw someone cite ONS stats the other day categorising symptoms after 4 weeks as long covid. If the barrier is so meaninglessly low that a slightly lingering cough qualifies, I'm surprised it isn't more.
AllThingsServeTheBeam · 15/12/2021 13:53

@OriginalM not at all I say every single for a lot of things. 'every single parent on the playground wore a mask' 'every single person there had a uniform on' etc you get the picture

Turquoisesol · 15/12/2021 14:09

Every time I hear politicians saying the very last thing they want to do is close schools, the more convinced I am that school closures are on the way

ParadiseLaundry · 15/12/2021 14:22

Saw someone cite ONS stats the other day categorising symptoms after 4 weeks as long covid. If the barrier is so meaninglessly low that a slightly lingering cough qualifies, I'm surprised it isn't more.

Yep, even after 3 and a bit months my sense of smell isn't quite back to what it was even though I can taste and smell most things ok. I'm sure that would count as long Covid too.

HesterShaw1 · 15/12/2021 14:22

@borntobequiet

Anyone promoting school closure as a societal measure should be ashamed of themselves.

Anyone citing the case of that poor child as an argument against closing schools should be ashamed of themselves. His circumstances were unique and nothing to do with school closure.

There are large numbers of unaccounted for children.

His situation was not "unique".

Why are people trying to swat this truth away. Vulnerable people were harmed at home because of the dogma of lockdowns, because the people who could have spotted the harms being done to them weren't allowed to see them, and because their abusers and killers felt safe in this knowledge.

HesterShaw1 · 15/12/2021 14:26

@kitz90

I don't know what's worse. Schools potentially being closed or the daily mayhem we're enduring at the minute with them being open but the endless drama, scaremongering, adhoc days off whilst being told to keep healthy kids at home while await PCR results etc (this could just be at my own children's school). I don't see this improving anytime soon.
Endless drama and scaremongering is true

It's making society's collective mental health and wellbeing very fragile indeed. This endless fucking doom cycle .

Whatinthelord · 15/12/2021 14:28

I am on the fence about if schools should close or not.
However I absolutely agree with previous comments that it will make some vulnerable children and adults at more risk of being harmed. There’s no getting around that. It’s a rock and a hard place.

I’m not sure what the right answer is, but both will have a negative impact….we can’t get away from that.

VikingOnTheFridge · 15/12/2021 14:30

@ParadiseLaundry

Saw someone cite ONS stats the other day categorising symptoms after 4 weeks as long covid. If the barrier is so meaninglessly low that a slightly lingering cough qualifies, I'm surprised it isn't more.

Yep, even after 3 and a bit months my sense of smell isn't quite back to what it was even though I can taste and smell most things ok. I'm sure that would count as long Covid too.

Probably, and there's just no sense in lumping symptoms like that in with people whose functioning is still significantly impaired. That's not the way to get sensible data. I mean, I've had a few coughs that have lingered for over a month, it's hardly unusual and had no impact on my life. But if one of them had followed a positive PCR, I'd be included in the long covid numbers?!
Remmy123 · 15/12/2021 14:31

@Whatinthelord why on earth would you want schools to close????

Absolutely ridiculous

Whatinthelord · 15/12/2021 14:35

[quote Remmy123]@Whatinthelord why on earth would you want schools to close????

Absolutely ridiculous[/quote]
I didn’t say I wanted schools to close, I said I was on the fence.
I personally am not sure what out of the two options would cause least harm overall.

I certainly don’t think there should be months long closures of schools and I do think every other strategy for reducing the dread should be implemented first. However if 2additional weeks on the school holiday would have an impact on reducing hospitals numbers (if that were an issue at that point) then I might agree with that.

Remmy123 · 15/12/2021 14:40

@whatagloriousthingtobe no you said you was on the fence.

They have missed way to much school as it is.

Not all schools have high rates so no need to do this for all.

It's insane I'm sick of the hysteria / hype and the 'what if's'

Comedycook · 15/12/2021 14:43

However if 2additional weeks on the school holiday would have an impact on reducing hospitals numbers (if that were an issue at that point) then I might agree with that

The thing is I absolutely would not trust them to reopen them after two weeks. I still have no idea why schools didn't reopen in the summer term of 2020 when case numbers were low.

MichaelAndEagle · 15/12/2021 14:46

I think the thing with a 'short term' school closure is that I do not believe it will be. If they close, they'll be closed until Easter.

They can't close without bringing back furlough etc anyway because the concept of being open to key workers only doesn't exist without it.

Sleepyblueocean · 15/12/2021 14:46

"Surely it would be phrased 'every parent' by saying every single parent to me reads as single parents?"

The word "single" is being used to emphasise the word "every". Similar to in the phrase "every single time".

canary1 · 15/12/2021 14:47

I agree Comedycook, it was a national disgrace summer 2020 that pubs, restaurants etc all open - and look at what happened to the poor kids.

Remmy123 · 15/12/2021 14:49

No point in close for two weeks - just stick to the bloody school dates.

The hospitals are not full they may not get full it's all bloody here say!! Had enough of it.

Kids suffer due to underfunded NHS enough is enough!

Whatinthelord · 15/12/2021 14:51

@MichaelAndEagle

I think the thing with a 'short term' school closure is that I do not believe it will be. If they close, they'll be closed until Easter.

They can't close without bringing back furlough etc anyway because the concept of being open to key workers only doesn't exist without it.

Yea I absolutely don’t think that should happen. I’m not even sure if a short closure would make any difference to the numbers for it to be worth while, so overall I guess I don’t think schools should close.

I don’t understand why non essential stuff like theatres \gigs are being closed if there is concern about hospital numbers increasing

VikingOnTheFridge · 15/12/2021 14:54

@Comedycook

However if 2additional weeks on the school holiday would have an impact on reducing hospitals numbers (if that were an issue at that point) then I might agree with that

The thing is I absolutely would not trust them to reopen them after two weeks. I still have no idea why schools didn't reopen in the summer term of 2020 when case numbers were low.

I wouldn't either.
INeedNewShoes · 15/12/2021 15:00

I haven't RTFT but the rate at which Omicron is spreading, so many of the kids will be catching it in these last few days of school that maybe it'll be over the hump by January in this particular section of the population?

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