"Pubs and restaurants could close in January under harsh new curbs"

[Maddymorphosis]

Daily mail source but when things are leaked like this they're usually correct..
Why is this happening again... I fear it'll be another full lockdown, my partner works at a pub too, can't take anymore

Badbadbunny yes my family member was one of them and that is why I would like the Government to consider it this time.

Did anyone actually read the article?? It doesn't say there will be a lockdown. It says there may be too many people isolating with Covid to open pubs and restaurants.

I.e. not enough people who are well enough to work.

There is a furlough so this wont happen again. Leisure and hospitality will be ruined by it.

Our already dieing hight street has died a death in the late two years. I cant see this happening two years in..if it does we might as well just give up.

The thought of doing this year after year is beyound depressing. It's not the Maldives. Who wants to sit upside in the UK in Winter?

I support not dying in an ambulance.

@Theturnofthepoo

I support not dying in an ambulance.

Then put as much weight as you can into improvements in social care.

Delay in discharging patients means we have high numbers of bed blockers again, and being unable to admit from A&E means bigger waits to get in to be seen

@CousinGreg

Hahhah “rebalance away from service sector” what are these workers going to do? Cloud engineering? Data security and Ai? ODFO with your GCSE economics analysis.

These people will do Cyber. Obvs.

Or maybe become ballerinas, to replace all those ones who have left to become database managers...

Indeed either is possible become a database manager or data security engineer. jobs market continually evolves people need to adapt or be poor change will always happen. Currently the UK economy is massively unbalanced and it needs change.

My friend manages a nightclub in Swansea and she's just been told that they've been told to close on Friday, and that table service will be returning in pubs from then.

Anyone can say anything on the internet - whether it turns out to be true is another matter entirely.

Why do people want lockdowns so badly? There's no furlough, so people will lose jobs and homes, businesses will collapse....

They are usually WFH or aren't financially affected so they want lockdown as it doesn't negatively affect them personally

For them lockdown is cosy days in, family all at home together, ordering deliveries online, going for nice walks, and as I said no financial hit so of course it suits them

Agreed, any of my friends who support lockdowns and restrictions the most are middle class work from homers.

Agree always too late and too harsh.

Simply making it mandatory to air places and pubs /restaurants to have a window open even periodically would be something!!
Manadsroty masks in class for at least older primary pupils and secondary pupils for a few weeks???
Blended learning where necessary?? Short term to manage outbreaks so dc can still learn?

All school on the same page, with on line learning? Ie dc don't turn up they /parents called, home visits if necessary.
Normal attendance expected?
Priority to exam groups!

School should have closed a few days early?
Go back a few days late staggered to get the lateral flows done, proper updated symptoms list

@sirfredfredgeorge

Your card you got when vaccinated is taken as proof

So, absolutely zero proof at all then, the sort of proof we all used to get in to pubs 30 years ago when no-one really cared about under age drinking?

Not the card but you can phone the NHS helpline if you don't have internet access and get a paper version of the covid pass. It's much more practical than scrolling through countless screens to get to the right page in the NHS app and of course is good for those without smartphones or the wherewithall to upload photos/videos of themselves/their ID to prove identity.

Just been announced the ones in Wales will be closing! Clubs anyway

@MiddleClassProblem

I think we are just heading for vaccine passports like other countries have, they’ll look particularly to countries in Europe that they deem reliable and will also hope it gets more people to vaccinate.

Vaccine passports are a red herring. They don't actually stop covid from spreading. They make a few people who otherwise might not get vaccinated, but where the numbers are already quite good it's not that many.

We have vaccine passports where I am and high vax rates - omicron is still spreading like wildfire. Thankfully few are getting really sick - the biggest headaches socially are people being required to isolate and interrupting services like health and education.

It's not just the possibility of no furlough.

Costs are skyrocketing. Every time there is a lockdown it makes it worse because of the extra costs businesses have and the problems with supply, speed, etc, and the money being injected by governments isn't helping either. Even people still getting paid for not working are having trouble making ends meet. And the ongoing effect of businesses going under isn't solved by furlough either. And community groups as well, I might add - a lot of non-profit organisations that are important to the fabric of communities are no longer viable, and every time they have to stop operations it gets worse.

@mum2jakie

Just been announced the ones in Wales will be closing! Clubs anyway

My friend was right, then. I would've been much happier to have been wrong. Lots of people will not have an income this Christmas. Awful.

The clubs in Wales will be closing from Boxing Day onwards. Wonder what financial support they are being offered?

@churchofthepoisonmind

The NHS is like Waiting for Godot. Always on the brink of being overwhelmed but it never happens does it? And this time, it's all for a variant which every available piece of evidence from SA suggests is milder than what we have been dealing with previously. Of course, that's not good enough for the scientists and fear-porn peddlers who have spent the past 18 months pushing for lockdowns and further restrictions. These folk are happy to throw their fellow citizens who work in hospitality under a bus because they are alright jack. Of course they are.

^ Clearly doesn’t work in the NHS.

Point is …. Sickness is high> people are stressed ( unlike hospitality, where if you miss something nobody gets sued/dies. ) > more people are sick > more stress > more staff leave/ go off sick.

Is it not a 6 hour wait for an urgent ambulance at the moment ? It’s overwhelmed now.