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Is anyone else still completely unvaccinated?

353 replies

Honeyhorse · 13/12/2021 08:09

I know this will probably cause arguments, but I’m just wondering who else is still completely unvaccinated like myself.
Mine is due to extreme anxiety and a needle phobia.
I’m not anti vaccination and I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory or microchip etc.
I want to talk to my GP about how I’m feeling but I can’t get an appointment Sad
Now everyone is getting boosters and I haven’t even had one, I feel embarrassed and ashamed, but I can’t do it, it’s like I need to be knocked unconscious before I’ll have it. I’ve even walked into the vaccination centre but ended up leaving after a few minutes as I had a panic attack.

I don’t know what to do.

OP posts:
SirChenjins · 13/12/2021 17:37

Bloody anti vaxxers need to go and set up their own site instead of scaremongering on here

Yep.

Trinacham · 13/12/2021 17:38

Yes, here.

I am pregnant and when I found out it was the same week I was offered my first vaccine. I decided against having the vaccine. I caught covid at 17 weeks pregnant. It was milder than a cold - had a runny nose, sneezing, then lost sense of smell. Was never unwell at all. I do plan on having the vaccine some day, but not whilst pregnant, and possibly not when breastfeeding either.

Florianus · 13/12/2021 17:38

[quote churchofthepoisonmind]@NovemberNovemberDarkNights what I have posted is fact. The FDA was forced to disclose this information following a freedom of information request. How can that be anti-vax? I am just stating a fact.
I don't understand how people can have such poor comprehension that they are incapable of distinguishing genuine facts from fake news. No wonder the world is in such a mess.
As to my post's relevance to this thread, well issues like the above are precisely why myself and others remain unvaccinated.[/quote]
Pfizer have asked a judge to be given 75 years to release the 59,000 pages of data involved. Given that the vaccine becomes public domain property in 14 years time, their request is unlikely to be granted. In a separate court case, legislation that could eventually force the FDA to release all documents relating to the coronavirus vaccine within the next 100 days is under way.

Astra Zeneca, of course, have made their vaccine available around the world at cost price.

ollyollyoxenfree · 13/12/2021 17:42

@SirChenjins

Bloody anti vaxxers need to go and set up their own site instead of scaremongering on here

Yep.

They have many! It would be good for MN to not allow crap like this to be so widespread on the board especially when specific posters have had many interactions with people attempting to engage but insist on repeating it nevertheless.

"original antigenic sin" Grin

No can make an informed decision on vaccination if they're being coerced by misinformation.

Florianus · 13/12/2021 17:45

@Trinacham

Yes, here.

I am pregnant and when I found out it was the same week I was offered my first vaccine. I decided against having the vaccine. I caught covid at 17 weeks pregnant. It was milder than a cold - had a runny nose, sneezing, then lost sense of smell. Was never unwell at all. I do plan on having the vaccine some day, but not whilst pregnant, and possibly not when breastfeeding either.

You were very fortunate. In the papers today is the story of a 33 year-old pregnant mum who did not have the vaccine and who became so gravely ill that she had to be placed in a coma for an emergency C-section at 31 weeks - more than two months before her due date of October 15. She was in a coma for 7 weeks, during which she had the baby.
SirChenjins · 13/12/2021 17:47

No can make an informed decision on vaccination if they're being coerced by misinformation

I absolutely agree, and it's unfortunate that so many threads have become a mouthpiece for these anti-vax idiots. I reported that post which has now been deleted and have asked MN to also delete the one which quotes it.

Kendodd · 13/12/2021 17:59

I do really cringe for the anti vax 'did my own research' lot on here.
Its embarrassing that you think you know better than the collective experts from the NHS, PHE, WHO, CDC, EMA, etc
How can you think they're all wrong and you're right Grin

perfectSmiles3 · 13/12/2021 17:59

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XenoBitch · 13/12/2021 18:07

@AgathaMystery

OP it always worth talking to the volunteers on the doors of vaccine centres. I do Covid vaccines & we very often vaccinate people in their cars or in the car park. It can be for a variety of reasons but I have done it for people with needle phobia, ASD, broken leg, MS, MND, You name it. It’s not unusual at all & honestly I would move heave & Earth in my vaccine centre to accommodate you if it meant it would help you get your vaccine.
Will vaccinators have time to reassure and sit with anxious/phobic people now? What with the booster roll out and massive queues. It is a genuine question.
Kendodd · 13/12/2021 18:08

@perfectSmiles3

Why do you think you know better than all the experts listed above when they say pregnant women should get vaccinated? Is it that you think they lying (for what reason)? Do you think you are better at weighing up the various risks/benefits or have access to more data? Genuine question, I'm trying to understand why people think they know more than the massive about of experts about this.

sleepwouldbenice · 13/12/2021 18:08

@perfectSmiles3

You were very fortunate. In the papers today is the story of a 33 year-old pregnant mum who did not have the vaccine and who became so gravely ill that she had to be placed in a coma for an emergency C-section at 31 weeks - more than two months before her due date of October 15. She was in a coma for 7 weeks, during which she had the baby.

Gosh, when I read this today, I gasped in horror as to how they're using this sad story for scaremongering expectant mums into taking the vaccine. I, for one, agree with every healthy woman who decides to not take any vaccines during pregnancy. There is just no way of knowing now what it can cause in your child's physical, but mostly neurological development later in their life. I would not risk it.

Did you?

When I watched something the other day that laid out the evidence / scientific backing for vaccines when pregnant and the proportion of pregnant women the were in ICU and the impact on them and their babies I felt the opposite

SirChenjins · 13/12/2021 18:09

And what exactly is it about this vaccine that concerns you about it in relation to long term neurological development?

ollyollyoxenfree · 13/12/2021 18:12

@SirChenjins

And what exactly is it about this vaccine that concerns you about it in relation to long term neurological development?
Have just reported... The sheer level of misinformation on MN since the announcement of boosters is not possible to engage with IMO.

Yes, is it not biologically plausible for a vaccine to affect foetal neurodevelopment in utero. @perfectSmiles3 is talking shite and potentially scaring pregnant women from being vaccinated, when it is safer for both them and their babies to take up the offer, if comfortable with it.

But good to try!

Kendodd · 13/12/2021 18:13

Will vaccinators have time to reassure and sit with anxious/phobic people now? What with the booster roll out and massive queues.
It is a genuine question.
Volunteers might.
But yes, vaccinators have sat in cars with people when needed.

SirChenjins · 13/12/2021 18:13

Will vaccinators have time to reassure and sit with anxious/phobic people now? What with the booster roll out and massive queues. It is a genuine question

I had my booster this afternoon and despite the queue being more than an hour long the answer is yes - my vaccinator did.

PoshWatchShitShoes · 13/12/2021 18:15

My friend's 40-yr old brother is unvaccinated...and he's also now in hospital. Married with 3 kids. He's an idiot!!

I was originally annoyed that he's blocking a hospital bed, but I'm more upset for my poor friend who is picking up the pieces for the wife who is also unvaccinated and struggling at home and unwell!!

Butterfly44 · 13/12/2021 18:17

OP you are far from alone. I'm sure there are many who have needle phobia. If you went with someone to the centre - not to have it but to talk to them - and then when you feel supported you could return there? There are a lot of great trained therapists

ollyollyoxenfree · 13/12/2021 18:19

[quote Kendodd]**@perfectSmiles3

Why do you think you know better than all the experts listed above when they say pregnant women should get vaccinated? Is it that you think they lying (for what reason)? Do you think you are better at weighing up the various risks/benefits or have access to more data? Genuine question, I'm trying to understand why people think they know more than the massive about of experts about this.[/quote]
Yes, and conviniently ignoring all the very real risks to child neurodevelopment like maternal infection in pregancy, being premature, small for gestational age etc caused by mum having coronavirus.

It makes me very very cross when health misinformation like this is propogated on a forum primarily for women of childbearing age

@perfectSmiles3

BoredZelda · 13/12/2021 18:21

But that feeling of not caring can not be replicated when it is just routine appointments. If that makes sense

It does. Like a bigger fear overrides the phobia. It would be great if those services could do more to help needle phobics.

BoredZelda · 13/12/2021 18:27

Pfizer have asked a judge to be given 75 years to release the 59,000 pages of data involved. Given that the vaccine becomes public domain property in 14 years time, their request is unlikely to be granted.

And what exactly do you expect to find in the 59,000 pages of data that those who have assessed and approved the vaccination did not see?

Suggestions2021 · 13/12/2021 18:33

I have had my first two but like you I am extremely anxious. I don't have a phobia of needles but I have severe IBS and cannot wait in queues. I had a panic attack the first time, luckily someone held my place so I could go to the loo. It's giving me sleepless nights.

Beer2bed · 13/12/2021 18:34

I was an absolute mess going for mine OP. I was on the verge of a full blown panic attack. They let my Dp come in with me and then rushed me straight through so I didnt need to hang around (was about 40 people waiting). The nurse doing it was amazing, got me a cup of water and told me that there was no rush, just to sit and try and relax.

Honestly, didnt feel a thing. Was a bit better with 2nd but Dp still came in with me, everyone was so understanding.

Please try not to worry too much about it. I promise it's nowhere near as bad as you think.

JanisMoplin · 13/12/2021 18:35

@Suggestions2021

I have had my first two but like you I am extremely anxious. I don't have a phobia of needles but I have severe IBS and cannot wait in queues. I had a panic attack the first time, luckily someone held my place so I could go to the loo. It's giving me sleepless nights.
I got mine at a pharmacy. No queue at all. Admittedly it was two weeks ago when people weren't jostling for them. Is that possible for you? Probably not, I guess.
SirChenjins · 13/12/2021 18:36

And what exactly do you expect to find in the 59,000 pages of data that those who have assessed and approved the vaccination did not see

Things and stuff of course. Everyone with a degree in vaccinology from Facebook knows it’s a big pharma conspiracy designed to control the thought processes of the masses.

Suggestions2021 · 13/12/2021 18:37

Hi @JanisMoplin I had mine both at my local pharmacy, the queue wasn't as bad the second time but the first it was still 40 minutes. I could barely speak to the nurse, it was very embarrassing.