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Honeyhorse · 2021-12-13T08:09:50+00:00

I know this will probably cause arguments, but I’m just wondering who else is still completely unvaccinated like myself. Mine is due to extreme anxiety and a needle phobia. I’m not anti vaccination and I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory or microchip etc. I want to talk to my GP about how I’m feeling but I can’t get an appointment [sad] Now everyone is getting boosters and I haven’t even had one, I feel embarrassed and ashamed, but I can’t do it, it’s like I need to be knocked unconscious before I’ll have it. I’ve even walked into the vaccination centre but ended up leaving after a few minutes as I had a panic attack. I don’t know what to do.

MrsBobDylan · 13/12/2021 18:37

I was queuing behind a woman today who was unvaccinated because she was scared. They let her bring a friend in and took her to a separate cubicle and were really kind and reassuring.

Try not to put pressure on yourself, you can only try and no one will judge you if you take longer or need to walk away a few times.

CookSproutsInSoySauce · 13/12/2021 18:44

I am, I won't have any.
I've had covid, for most it's a mild illness, I'd rather get it again than participate in an unpaid medical trial although no judgement to those who have chosen to. I'm no more worried about it than the common cold.

NMC2022 · 13/12/2021 18:46

If it helps anyone, I filled in an online form before my booster and so when I went in, it was straight into a room. Sat down and I had a vest top on and she went "you're done"
I think my bum just touched the seat!

I was really phobic, as in held down as a child for blood tests, shaking and crying at the thought of a blood sugar test. I now inject myself weekly

tangyandsalty · 13/12/2021 18:49

My dd has a needle phobia (to the point where she's fainted/thrown up at the thought of it)

She decided she needed to get vaccinated so she bought a hypnotherapy podcast that she listened to daily leading up to her jab, and she's managed to have them both. She has had diazepam before when she had to have an injection for dental treatment. Speak to your gp and see if they can help.

MrsJackWhicher · 13/12/2021 18:53

I have a colleague who is unvaccinated and has o intention of getting one. We work on a school and he has not been infected so far and in unconcerned if he is. My STBXH husband is also unvaccinated and unconcerned as he Covid last year and it was milder than a winter cold. I am only vaccinated because I was hoping g to go abroad this year. Would not bother otherwise (I had Covid last year - minimal symptoms.

Trinacham · 13/12/2021 18:55

@florianus of course we will hear about the minority of severe cases. Same for anyone - vaccine or no vaccine. Even one of my vaxxed colleagues had covid at the same time as me (pretty sure I caught it from her as she'd been to out a few days before) was poorly with it, when I was not. Had I not caught covid early on in the pregnancy, I may well have chosen to get vaccinated. But health care professionals told me I didn't need to now I've had it, and said I'd be fine waiting until after birth as I'll have antibodies for 6 months. That's what I've been told.

AgathaMystery · 13/12/2021 19:00

Honestly? No. I do triples which means 3 people booked into every 5 min slot. I am fast though so I know if I spend 15 mins with one person I can clear my backlog in less than that. The days of us spending 5-7 mins with each patient are long gone.

pointythings · 13/12/2021 19:02

unpaid medical trial

You do realise, don't you, that the majority of clinical trials in the UK are unpaid? No? Didn't think so.

So many people clueless about how research is done in the UK.

KatyRebecca84 · 13/12/2021 19:11

@Jabbawasarollingstone

DH. I respect his decision.I'm double jabbed but not getting the booster.

Same here. DH doesn’t want it. I’ve had first two… not having booster.

samsalmon · 13/12/2021 19:17

The needle is absolutely tiny OP, I didn’t even realise it’d had been done. I didn’t feel a thing, if that helps.

Sonex · 13/12/2021 19:19

Hi OP I went with my son today to get his second and we were there at opening, first ones in - they were very unrushed and had a nice chat with us. Same when I got my booster recently. They don't rush you and I'm sure if you explained at booking in how nervous you are they would be really slow and gentle.

I too cringe at the people without so much as a Biology GCSE "researching" on facebook and coming to scientific conclusions when they've never even read a scientific paper before covid - the same people who were happy to get yellow fever, TB, take anti malarials etc when they were off on their hols. Who know better than scientists and doctors that have spent decades studying.

talkalarm · 13/12/2021 19:21

@Honeyhorse - sorry I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but have you checked if you've got a local primary care mental health service (Iapt) - they'll take referrals from you directly and may help with your needle phobia

AngryAtAssholes · 13/12/2021 19:40

@independent98 a friend has a blood disorder related to ITP and is also unvaxxed, as a reaction to the jab could have very serious consequences. They’ve been told the risk of reaction and relapse of their condition is high but until they have that reaction they cannot be exempted. The stress it’s causing them is immense : they’ve said it’s essentially weighing up what disease they would rather die/be disabled from and I think they are erring to covid as the least traumatic option.

I do think people are conflating those not taking the vax because of crack pot theories and those who have genuine reasons to be hesitant. It seems like a lot of people who are at very real risk of serious side effects are being expected to take a bigger risk for the greater good rather than being seen as those the rest of us should be trying to protect.

And fwiw my friend has also reported that recurrence / first time incidences of ITP are becoming prevalent in their patient group, in people who have had the vax.

independent98 · 14/12/2021 07:23

Thank you @angryatassholes as other posters stated that I was spreading misinformation. At this stage in order to be vaccinated, it would require alot of planning i.e being off work, having weekly monitoring appointments, Medications, potentially needing a carer to help me get washed and dressed, someone to look after my child as I am a single parent. This vaccine has the potential to put me backwards in my health journey.. it has taken me 5 years to be medication free and to build up my platelets so I am not bruising, bleeding or have constant fatigue.i was unable to work for 2 out of those 5 years. Many people have genuine concerns and reasons why they do not wish to be vaccinated

ImNotWhoYouThinkIam · 14/12/2021 07:28

My friend is unvaccinated as she doesn't trust the vaccine yet. She said maybe in a few years. (She has a lot of mental health issues and ASD so no amount of persuasion is going to work on her)

My own DS2 is also un-jabbed due to a severe medical phobia (he's passed out in Specsavers before because his mind reads it as a medical setting)

Abraxan · 14/12/2021 07:35

@YogaLite

I am also unvaccinated, does anyone even trust the government now?

The government - no.

The scientists and experts who have developed the vaccine across the world - yes.

The two are unrelated.

Re multiple jabs - I have a flu vaccine annually. I have pneumonia jab every so many years. Other vaccines are supposed to need boosting every 5 or 10 years. Covid put me in hospital - I'm taking the vaccine and boosters. I really don't want the experience of saying goodbye to dh and Dd on the roadside after being told I was very high risk of imminent heart attack or stroke if they didn't take me in ASAP, but neither could go with me,

bozzabollix · 14/12/2021 07:50

OP, I used to have a phobia about needles. I don’t think I’d be so good with blood being taken but the vaccination was very quick and I literally barely felt it.

What sorted me was basically gritting my teeth and being put in the situation. It was nothing like I’d built up in my mind. In fact afterwards felt quite elated that I’d done it and it had been nothing like as bad as I was expecting.

I guess if you literally can’t get through the door maybe you could get a telephone GP appointment for some diazepam.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/12/2021 08:21

Not vaccinated, no intention of getting it done.

Had Alpha variant last year, no worse than any number of colds I've had down the years. Main reason for not being jagged is simply that for some reason, presumably NHS administrative incompetence, I was never actually offered an appointment. They did however write to me offering a booster and a flu jab, which is interesting considering I've never had the first or second dose.

Invitation was duly ignored, and would have been in any scenario since they expected me to trail 15 miles from home at 9am. We were told we needed to hit 80% vaccination rates to achieve heard immunity. It's over than now, so I don't feel there's even any civil responsibility to get jagged, and to be honest, I simply can't be bothered. All the evidence is that each variant is becoming more transmissible but far less deadly, so as I expected right back at the beginning, it seems the inevitable way out of this pandemic is not in fact half-arsed vaccinations, but to actually get the virus then get on with our lives.

I'm happy to take my chances, again. Gotta die of something at some point.

MrsBillyNoJagNoMates · 14/12/2021 08:23

[quote AngryAtAssholes]@independent98 a friend has a blood disorder related to ITP and is also unvaxxed, as a reaction to the jab could have very serious consequences. They’ve been told the risk of reaction and relapse of their condition is high but until they have that reaction they cannot be exempted. The stress it’s causing them is immense : they’ve said it’s essentially weighing up what disease they would rather die/be disabled from and I think they are erring to covid as the least traumatic option.

I do think people are conflating those not taking the vax because of crack pot theories and those who have genuine reasons to be hesitant. It seems like a lot of people who are at very real risk of serious side effects are being expected to take a bigger risk for the greater good rather than being seen as those the rest of us should be trying to protect.

And fwiw my friend has also reported that recurrence / first time incidences of ITP are becoming prevalent in their patient group, in people who have had the vax.[/quote]
Thank you for this, you put it better that I ever could
This is exactly how 2 siblings with the same condition end up being medically exempt in one country and not in UK (and being harassed and bullied and not believed in UK as well as of course everyone can have the jab for the greater good)

AliceA2021 · 14/12/2021 09:12

@bozzabollix

OP, I used to have a phobia about needles. I don’t think I’d be so good with blood being taken but the vaccination was very quick and I literally barely felt it.

What sorted me was basically gritting my teeth and being put in the situation. It was nothing like I’d built up in my mind. In fact afterwards felt quite elated that I’d done it and it had been nothing like as bad as I was expecting.

I guess if you literally can’t get through the door maybe you could get a telephone GP appointment for some diazepam.

I'm not sure it will help with a phobia @Honeyhorse but this is a good post. The needle is tiny and I didn't feel it at all. The fear is in the mind as you know but this needle is really tiny, nothing like when taking blood or popping a canula in. Maybe some anxiety medication to calm and bring the fear into proportion with what is happening eg just a tiny prick.

NoFitStateMum · 14/12/2021 10:04

@XDownwiththissortofthingX do you take a freerider approach to life in general or just where pandemics and vaccines are concerned? Won't get vaxxed yourself but happy for others to so that we keep cases low enough that we can all enjoy freedom and health care when we need it. You selfish twunt.

churchofthepoisonmind · 14/12/2021 10:25

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NoFitStateMum · 14/12/2021 10:47

@churchofthepoisonmind FYI I've not left the UK since Covid hit.

What evidence do you have that vaccinated people transmit Covid as much as non-vaxxed? Do share your peer reviewed, journal published evidence.

Like it or not, I am doing you a favour by getting vaxxed myself even if I would rather people like you didn't benefit if that was possible.....

churchofthepoisonmind · 14/12/2021 10:55

@NoFitStateMum I did not say the vaccinated spread and pass it on as much as unvaccinated. But they CAN still catch it and CAN still spread it. Even the most ardent vaccine zealots (of which there seem to be a great many on here) will admit to that. You can stamp your feet all you like but bottom line is virtue signallers like you are not doing people like me any favours at all. Now go get in line for your next booster!

Incognito22333 · 14/12/2021 10:57

I am so sorry to hear about your phobia.

In our local hub there is always a GP on call and they have a side room for people who are worried. They are really gentle, patient and kind and let you lie down, give you biscuits and water and someone will sit with you. Could you maybe book an appointment and go with a friend who keeps talking to you and ask to speak to the on call doctor? Most places they are very happy to provide assurances. You don’t need to do this on your own. And if you can’t go ahead with it the first time, just keep trying. They really won’t mind.