Furlough to return ?

[Henrieta2]

Do you think furlough will return ?
I’m worried 😟 how can they tell peoooe to wfh and potentially have people lose jobs because if everyone wfh how can hospitality / cafes / cleaners go to work ???

I don’t think furlough will return unless there’s a full lockdown. No idea what people are expected to do.

No money left for it.

They said wfh if you can. If you can't, you carry on as before.

@Eaumyword

They said wfh if you can. If you can't, you carry on as before.

Yes but that has a knock on for others. My office will be closed as we can all work from home. Our cleaners, canteen workers, receptionists, maintenance etc. may all be out of a job if it carries on for a while.

Ah, true

I doubt it

Doesn't matter if it does not return.

It won't stop employers treating their workers like shit.

Got used to the workers doing as they were told, and tolerating being treated as if they don't need money to live, haven't they?

DH's company got all the workers to agree to a four day week, the last couple of months, because of the chip shortage. With a twenty percent pay cut, I might add, salaried and on the clock.

Their fucking main wanker of an owner hasn't gone without.
Neither has his wife who also is a part owner.
The other owner hid, wouldn't speak to the workers at all.

Everyone on twenty percent less pay to protect these greedy shits.

Twenty percent. Sound familiar?

Three chaps wouldn't play ball and it sowed the seeds of rebellion in the rest of them.

He made them redundant in revenge and to keep the rest of them compliant.

Some of the workers couldn't afford their bills and food for their kids.
Did he care? Did he fuck!

"Look, I know it's difficult, being on less money....but...but...but"

I hope his fucking house burns down, the selfish bastard.

@Eaumyword

They said wfh if you can. If you can't, you carry on as before.

That doesn't work for everyone through

If the sector you work in is closed or restricted then you cant work.

I was thinking today that our staff canteen employs around 20 people - they are a separate company to my firm. The company basically only provides catering to offices and employs thousands of people overall. There will be almost no one in our office or probably any other office to buy from them. I've no idea what the company will do without furlough. I suspect if it goes on longer than a few weeks they will be insolvent and all those people will be unemployed. But bringing back furlough in its previous form would be extremely expensive as it is very difficult to distinguish between businesses which will be genuinely affected by the WFH guidance and businesses which may just want to claim for a couple of staff whom they can do without for now.

I don’t think so

It cost too much

I hope not. My current employer will just shut down if so, and I shall be laid off and not paid....I really can't afford to live if so.

no it won't hence why it's wfh if you can but fine to socialise

Absolutely not, the country can’t afford it.

having said that i'm not sure what happens if the lack of it means people carry on as they were which then has no impact on the speed of transmission. Anyone I know who can work from home is already doing that either in full or part so i'm not quite sure what plan B is meant to be stopping.

@Winebottle

There is plenty of money.
Last tune the BOE just made it and lent it to the government

It’s didn’t change the ex rate and was lent effectively free so it ses not and shouldn’t be a worry.

I don't think so.
No money in the pot. Abuse of the system etc.
Plus the very people for whom social distancing in the workplace is nigh on impossible, therefore arguably the people who need furlough the most when numbers are high, are the ones who'd never be given it anyway.
In a vicious circle, they are the ones who are going to lose their jobs if office workers are furloughed/go back to WFH.

No and it’s only work from home if you can. If shops/cafes are open then their staff can’t. Some industries remained like this for all three lockdowns including my husbands (none of them caught Covid from his work place in that time). It’s just now shops/hospitality venues are reopened it impacts no people.

No.
They won't. Can't afford it.

No furlough surely means no lockdown - I hope

I wondered about this too... I think the wfh guidance is just a token gesture.
Boris had to be seen to be doing something.
But its beyond ridiculous to say wfh but it's fine to go to the pub, restaurant, theatre, kids nativity plays, parties, or cram into sweaty nightclub...
I can sit at a social distanced desk but can get up close and personal in a club...
With no furlough, I can see many buiseness going under as office/city workers support cafes, cleaning firms, tfl... Its already in financial crisis.
Why didn't plan b involve social distancing for all sectors again if the idea is limiting spread?

@Chessie678 exactly. It then goes down the line to the suppliers of those office catering companies of which I am one.

Sorry... Should say "I can't sit at a socially distanced desk"

@Theredjellybean exactly it doesn't mean anything

I am reliant on schools being open for my job. If they shut I will be furloughed.

What a mess it all is , wfh if you can will definitely have a knock on effect on others that can’t do this. Our work cafe (outside company) is already struggling due to reduced staff as we have hybrid working and I would say the office is less than 50% occupied since we’ve been back. Now no one will be in buying lunch, I don’t know how they’ll survive.