Page 2 | The snivelling is a bit much?

minitree · 2021-12-08T16:04:32+00:00

Sniffing and crying? http://news.sky.com/liveblog-webview/coronavirus-news-uk-latest-live-boris-johnson-party-covid-lockdown-12469075 Hate it

LadyCatStark · 08/12/2021 16:50

She has been thrown under a bus and some people will think it’s all ok now as someone has quit and we can all forget about it. She looked awkward when answering the questions and wouldn’t have been talking about it if she hadn’t have been asked by the men. All in all, it doesn’t matter who said what’s it matters that we are being lied to.

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minitree · 08/12/2021 16:51

@MrsMadderRose

But people do laugh and joke like this about what's going on at work. In the video it's almost like she's mocking the excuses that have been made about the party, and it's clear she's fully aware that something happened that shouldn't have and it's really awkward.

I completely understand why she resigned and I think she had to, but I bet a LOT of people have a laugh with colleagues about stupid/ill-advised/dodgy goings on at work.

Although I agree with you, politics is a dangerous game.

Actually, you couldn't pay me enough to do those jobs. It's a snake pit

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the80sweregreat · 08/12/2021 16:51

@Bwix

I feel sorry for her. No one knows the whole ins and outs of it. Even if she was completely and utterly culpable she’s a human and has lost her job in a humiliating way.

My heart bleeds .. not !

VikingOnTheFridge · 08/12/2021 16:53

@Yellow85

I mean I’d probably be crying too if I’d been sacked from a £125k made up job and now had to work in the real world.

I struggle to feel sorry for her after that video. Was she the only one, no, but doesn’t make her part any less disgusting to me

I doubt this one's going to the real world.

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minitree · 08/12/2021 16:54

A job in politics is the real world, isn't it?

Let's not make this thread about jealousy for people earning decent salaries

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the80sweregreat · 08/12/2021 16:54

Boris will hire her somewhere else I suppose
Wallpaper buyer, party planner , nanny .
She won't be up the food banks any time soon

LondonJax · 08/12/2021 16:58

Nope, I don't feel sorry for her.

Firstly she didn't have to do a face to face statement and sniff all the way through it. She could have just put a statement out.

Secondly, it's fine to say you feel so bad about your remarks and the sacrifices people have made after you've been found out, she still stayed in the job for a year with those words 'haunting her for the rest of her days' didn't she?

And thirdly, if she'd have been any good at her job that video would have vindicated Downing Street, not added fuel. A trainee press secretary would bat off a question like 'we heard there was a party any comments' with 'it was a business meeting with food' - end of story. Not say 'what would you like me to say?' It was a practice run and she showed she was not good enough at her job to come up with an off the cuff answer without looking like a rabbit in the headlight.
Hence the move to COP and the defunct briefings she was supposed to be given this year.

She's snivelling because she got caught not because she's sorry. A few others will be doing the same shortly. No sympathy at all.

VikingOnTheFridge · 08/12/2021 17:01

@minitree

A job in politics is the real world, isn't it?

Let's not make this thread about jealousy for people earning decent salaries

No, and it isn't.

TuftyMarmoset · 08/12/2021 17:01

@CovidCorvid

I do feel she’s been chucked under the bus when she wasn’t even at the party but you live by the sword then you die by the sword. This is how it works in politics. Boris has to sacrifice someone to save his ass. I’ve not much sympathy for her. She might not have been there but she obviously found it funny.

I thought it came across in the original video that she actually was at the party.

Pascal80 · 08/12/2021 17:02

Snivelling like a little girl caught out.

Utter self pity and contempt for the public. Her husband is boss at The Spectator where Boris worked. She is godparent to Rishi Sunak's children and he to hers. She was given a SPAD job for Boris with absolutely no relevant qualifications - simply on the basis that she is "their kind of person".

Yellow85 · 08/12/2021 17:04

@minitree

A job in politics is the real world, isn't it?

Let's not make this thread about jealousy for people earning decent salaries

No, I don’t believe it is.

No jealously regarding the salary - how presumptuous that you say that. You have no idea what anyone on here earns! The issue is to earn that in private sector is a completely different ball game.

the80sweregreat · 08/12/2021 17:04

She said she didn't go to the party , she went home.
I don't believe any of them to be honest.
Her tears are crocodile tears for losing 125k a year .
She can stick her apology up her arse

trappedsincesundaymorn · 08/12/2021 17:07

That wasn't an "apology" at all. "My remarks seemed to make light of rules, rules that people were doing everything to obey. That was never my intention". AKA...."it's your fault if you are upset by what I said, not mine"

MarshaBradyo · 08/12/2021 17:07

And thirdly, if she'd have been any good at her job that video would have vindicated Downing Street, not added fuel. A trainee press secretary would bat off a question like 'we heard there was a party any comments' with 'it was a business meeting with food' - end of story. Not say 'what would you like me to say?' It was a practice run and she showed she was not good enough at her job to come up with an off the cuff answer without looking like a rabbit in the headlight.

One thing I do kind of agree with is she didn’t do the job very well

TuftyMarmoset · 08/12/2021 17:13

She said she didn't go to the party , she went home.

Yes but her expression/manner and the way she said it wasn’t socially distanced suggested to me that that was untrue.

User135644 · 08/12/2021 17:14

Poor Allegra. You'd have to be cold hearted to not feel sorry for her watching that.

Stircrazyschoolmum · 08/12/2021 17:15

Lots of people use humour to deal with the pressure of their jobs or to fit in. Much of it in poor taste. I bet there’s a few drs and nurses that joked inappropriately during the pandemic, and teachers, and policemen, and those in hospitality etc etc. Social media was rife with it.

I’m not saying it’s right or that she should have stayed, but role modelling comes from the top and when you consider what several other more senior/high profile MPs were up to at the time, I’d at least give her credit for having the decency to resign and seem somewhat apologetic. Lots of others denied everything, pointed the finger and carried on..

the80sweregreat · 08/12/2021 17:15

@User135644

Poor Allegra. You'd have to be cold hearted to not feel sorry for her watching that.

Couldn't give a shiny shit personally

grapewine · 08/12/2021 17:19

@User135644

Poor Allegra. You'd have to be cold hearted to not feel sorry for her watching that.

That's what they're counting on. She wasn't very good at her cushy job. I'd be crying too if I'd lost a salary like that. So I understand her that far..

PrincessNutNuts · 08/12/2021 17:20

Allegra Stratton didn't organise the Number 10 Christmas Party on December 18th 2020.

She didn't organise the Secret Santa.

She didn't organise the party games.

She didn't order the food and drink.

Or invite the guests.

She didn't bring the subject up, in the practice briefing, and she didn't suggest lies be told to the public such as "It was cheese and wine" "It was a business meeting"

She wasn't in charge of the people who did.

And she wasn't the only one giggling.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 08/12/2021 17:22

@User135644

Poor Allegra. You'd have to be cold hearted to not feel sorry for her watching that.

Or somebody that spent last Christmas grieving without friends and family around. To know that we have been laughed at and our dead loved ones been metaphorically pissed on, is like a punch in the stomach. I do have a heart( which has been broken again over the last week with all this coming to light) unlike her.

panachronic · 08/12/2021 17:24

@Yellow85

I mean I’d probably be crying too if I’d been sacked from a £125k made up job and now had to work in the real world.

I struggle to feel sorry for her after that video. Was she the only one, no, but doesn’t make her part any less disgusting to me

This and the fact that she couldn't even do the 125k made up job and so got shunted to COPD spokesperson and did F all there, apart from tell people to rinse their dishes before putting them in the dishwasher to help save the planet. Fits right in with the nasty party judging from the video.

panachronic · 08/12/2021 17:27

@PrincessNutNuts

Allegra Stratton didn't organise the Number 10 Christmas Party on December 18th 2020.

She didn't organise the Secret Santa.

She didn't organise the party games.

She didn't order the food and drink.

Or invite the guests.

She didn't bring the subject up, in the practice briefing, and she didn't suggest lies be told to the public such as "It was cheese and wine" "It was a business meeting"

She wasn't in charge of the people who did.

And she wasn't the only one giggling.

Yes, but she was a willing participant in the collusion to cover the party up.

Ghoulette · 08/12/2021 17:27

Sniggering because she got caught, remember that. She isn't remorseful, she isn't sorry and she got what she deserved.

larkle · 08/12/2021 17:28

I feel sorry for her. We all make mistakes and plenty of politicians have done far worse. It is not nice to see any woman so upset. She appears genuinely contrite and she has apologised. Some posters appear to glory in her distress.
I think she has been made the scapegoat.