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Data, Stats and Daily Numbers started 5 December 2021

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JanglyBeads · 05/12/2021 17:21

Welcome to the DATA thread.

Our preference is for actual, data driven and analytical contributions.
Please try to keep discussion focused on these

Our links below probably need a refresh ready for the festive season,. so all reasonable suggestions welcome.

UK govt press conferences slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
PHE Variants of Concern Technical Briefings www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201
PHE Vaccine efficacy www.gov.uk/government/publications/phe-monitoring-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination
SAGE : Minutes and Models www.gov.uk/government/collections/scientific-evidence-supporting-the-government-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ includes R estimates
PHE Weekly Flu & Covid Surveiilance Reports 2021-22 Season www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2021-to-2022-season
Dashboard Vaccine Map to MSOA level coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
Sanger Genome Maps & Data covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw
UCL Virus Watch ucl-virus-watch.net/
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Sewage www.gov.uk/government/publications/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-19-may-2021-emhp-programme/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-the-environmental-monitoring-for-health-protection-emhp-programme.
Sewage reports www.gov.uk/government/publications/monitoring-of-sars-cov-2-rna-in-england-wastewater-monthly-statistics-june-2021
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHS England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSOA Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths
PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

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Firefliess · 07/12/2021 23:03

Re whether hospital cases necessarily reflect community rates - they might not. Hospitals are communal establishments with lots of people sleeping in wards together and a huge number of staff and outpatients passing though. It's quite possible for there to have been some hospital outbreaks of a highly infectious strain like Omicron. In the UK hospital "admissions" also include people already in hospital who test positive while there.

Also - "most covid patients were admitted for something else" is not the same as "most hospital admissions had covid" You might have 5 admitted for covid, 10 admitted for something else and found to have covid and 200 admitted without covid.

tootyfruitypickle · 07/12/2021 23:39

My df is 78 and had his second vaccination in august and system won't let him book 😬. I'll tell him to call 119 but the system is a bit pants!
Thanks for the nudge @kittykarate

Firefliess · 07/12/2021 23:50

@tootyfruitypickle

My df is 78 and had his second vaccination in august and system won't let him book 😬. I'll tell him to call 119 but the system is a bit pants! Thanks for the nudge *@kittykarate*
Some advice that might help your DF here twitter.com/PaulMainwood/status/1467903277123657728?t=ftYoIgOqo5Xu50UT05bRjg&s=19
JanglyBeads · 08/12/2021 00:12

I’d always thought of vaccine passports as protecting everyone present - a community thing - less chance of spreading and less chance of catching.

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milkyaqua · 08/12/2021 01:12

Does not look good:

twitter.com/M_B_Petersen

(Well, he looks good, but what he presents re Omicron case rise in Denmark doesn't.)

Reastie · 08/12/2021 06:17

I’ve been thinking about the crazy data of cases and hospitalisations in preschool children mentioned on this thread and I’ve got a potential hypothesis. Could it be that preschoolers that have covid are testing negative because it’s so difficult to physically test them so not enough sample is getting in the test when parents do it to show a positive in positive cases. They could get a false negative because of this and in actuality many of the cases go undetected (but then picked up once in hospital and testing is done by a trained professional).

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 08/12/2021 06:44

Yes, Reaste technique in swabbing has a major effect on the reliability of tests.

MarshaBradyo · 08/12/2021 08:07

I really want to see if I can bring my booster forward, it’s not far off near Christmas

Is it easy?

I’m paranoid if I cancel what I have I’ll lose that

Or do you keep what you have and easy to change

oneglassandpuzzled · 08/12/2021 08:20

The system lets you check before you push cancel.

Regulus · 08/12/2021 08:25

Check but not rebook, you have to cancel and hope when you log back in the space is there.

kittykarate · 08/12/2021 08:28

Unfortunately, it's a cancel and rebook process. You can check what vaccine appointments are available before you cancel. There is a bit of a 'will they still be there when I go back?' worry though. I usually fiddle with mine late on an evening so there's less chance of being gazumped.

oneglassandpuzzled · 08/12/2021 08:29

I have rebooked mine twice and was allowed to look at availability first.

BigWoollyJumpers · 08/12/2021 08:56

@tootyfruitypickle

My df is 78 and had his second vaccination in august and system won't let him book 😬. I'll tell him to call 119 but the system is a bit pants! Thanks for the nudge *@kittykarate*
Our vax centre, although stating appointments only, were accepting walk-ins on Monday. Essentially they prefer for you to be called up and to book (this is a GP led service), but will accept anybody eligible if they tip up. We saw two or three oldies tip up for boosters, one housebound who had come in a friends car, and was vaxxed in the carpark, which was fab, and also youngsters getting first jabs.

I could call a local number for the GP led service and brought mine forward so DH and I went together. As an aside, we both suffered quite a lot yesterday, neither of us had any reaction to AZ, but yesterday we both had terrible pains all over, a headache from hell, and completely wiped out. Better today though.

MarshaBradyo · 08/12/2021 09:19

Ok thanks I’ll look late tonight

It’s not too far off, a couple of days before Christmas, but then it’ll likely be dominant one

MRex · 08/12/2021 09:55

@Reastie

I’ve been thinking about the crazy data of cases and hospitalisations in preschool children mentioned on this thread and I’ve got a potential hypothesis. Could it be that preschoolers that have covid are testing negative because it’s so difficult to physically test them so not enough sample is getting in the test when parents do it to show a positive in positive cases. They could get a false negative because of this and in actuality many of the cases go undetected (but then picked up once in hospital and testing is done by a trained professional).
This one's been said a lot. Some things that go missing in the "nobody tests preschoolers" theory: 1) Nurseries require testing, so they're actually tested more than many adults. 2) As I have a preschooler - yes it's hard to test because he cries, inconclusive test early on shows you have to get enough cells - so that provides the fall-back. 3) I also know quite a few who have tested positive, when their families had covid, plus two whose vaccinated parents didn't catch it but they got it from nursery. 4) How exactly is it that the adults around them aren't testing positive, when each pre-schooler stands accused of secretly having covid multiple times by now? 5) Little ones catch a LOT of viruses, this is normal. Many of the viruses have similar symptoms. They are not all covid, and hospital testing has shown huge spikes of RSV, rhinovirus and adenovirus at different times. 6) Sadly we know maternal fever can cause early labour; multiple times we have seen reports that many hospital child cases are neo-natal. There is also hospital acquired infection risk for other kids on wards. 7) With every increase in viral load from a new variant, younger age ranges have been disproportionately affected. This shows bigger infectivity, not that nobody bothered testing the teenagers, then started but didn't bother testing primary etc. Omicron is likely to affect younger ages because of higher viral load, we don't yet know how much younger nor how severely.

It would be nice for a bit of logic around the topic, because the casual "kids must be the only spreaders of viruses" is getting really irritating nearly 2 years on.

Quartz2208 · 08/12/2021 10:05

Antedoctally I thought that about testing after DS (who is older) had 3 viruses between September 2020 and May 2021 that all needed testing all of which were negative and I thought maybe I wasnt testing right.

Then he got a positive LFT testing exactly the same way followed by a positive PCR test. And then I checked it by basically almost wafting it up his nose and that was positive. They do pick it up.

Here Nurseries I think have some of the strictest testing rules so I dont think that many are. Plus you would notice I think

RichTeaRichTea · 08/12/2021 10:23

Delurking to say I agree with MRex about the myths around preschoolers and testing. I have two preschoolers and everyone I know in my situation has tested and isolated multiple times. If they aren’t in childcare then I can imagine many people would avoid testing if they could, but childcare settings are understandably very strict.

I would also add to the “Little ones catch a LOT of viruses” comment that iirc there was a suggestion that having one virus can minimise the likelihood of catching another (happy to be corrected if I have misunderstood this or it has been debunked along the way!) which if true could mean that covid isn’t passed on as easily amongst this group

MRex · 08/12/2021 10:38

@RichTeaRichTea - there was research saying rhinovirus prevented covid from taking hold, so streaming noses help. I haven't seen any research that indicates that's also true of other viruses, nor whether it still holds true with higher viral load. I haven't seen that it doesn't either, but I did read they think Omicron has part common cold in its genome, which suggests it managed to co-exist at least for one person during its mutation. Sorry, no idea where I read that though!

CrabbyCat · 08/12/2021 10:46

Also delurking to agreeing to say that my 2 year old is the most extensively tested of my DC. He keeps catching other bugs. Unlike his older sibling, they then give him a temperature / cough (because is the snot from a blocked nose) - which means we have to test for him to be able to access childcare. Looking across friends, the same is true for them. In addition, although we and most people I know aren't doing regular LFT on their preschoolers, people are much more likely to once they are known to have been exposed.

MRex · 08/12/2021 13:32

I am in booster stats tomorrow. There was a round of applause for staff at my vaccine centre today led by the Matron in charge, because it was 1 year to the day since they opened at the exact time I was there. Amazing to think it's been a whole year. Interesting discussion with the on duty doctor giving me some general medical advice too, much appreciated. It's really an amazing effort.

lostandfoundedges · 08/12/2021 13:45

Just a thought on the vaccine passport issue -and what is being achieved when they are mandated. If the primary reason for bringing in restrictions is to prevent hospital capacity being exceeded, then the vaccine passport is being used to prevent the unvaccinated person, who would be at most risk of serious disease, from entering a venue where the risk of becoming infected was higher. Do you think that’s the logic behind it?

boys3 · 08/12/2021 14:45

A quick comparison from the Sanger data on the time for the alpha and delta variants to reach 95% dominance (ie being at least 95% of the sequenced cases in a given week).

Alpha start point 25/5166 sequenced cases w/e 24th October 2020. Had appeared in low single digits in the previous 4 wks data

Delta start point 17/5739 sequenced cases w/e 10th April 2021. Had appeared as either 1 or 2 cases in the prior two weeks data.

Omicron, first partial week only ; 23/41668 sequenced cases w/e 27th November 2021 (as reported Monday 6th Dec Sanger data release). Confirmed number already now of course into three figures.

Alpha took 15 weeks to get to 95%, reaching 80% after 10 weeks. Delta took 9 weeks and 7 weeks to reach those levels.

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CrabbyCat · 08/12/2021 15:37

I read German media. A big part of the rationale there for vaccination certificates is that the unvaccinated are also higher risk in terms of infecting others. I have seen research reported that the unvaccinated drive about 2/3 rds of infections, because they are more likely to be infected, carry more virus and are infectious for much longer. I didn't go as far as checking how robust the original research was though.

Wilma55 · 08/12/2021 16:05

Today....

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DownWhichOfLate · 08/12/2021 16:12

Wilma - the daily numbers without context aren’t particularly useful!