Are you really prepared to take every single vaccine

[Talsaml]

It worries me that we may have to keep having vaccines going forward. I’m due my booster which I will take but I’m hearing that AZ are in the process of tweaking the current vaccine to combat the new strain. So we are then required to take another booster. Many variants can crop up, suppose another one does very soon. I’m concerned about the number of vaccines we could be taking. Is anyone else? And no I’m not an anti vaxer.

We don't publish what the side effects of the vaccines are with any such accuracy.

What is the actual risk of thrombosis?
What is the actual risk of myocarditis?

We are nowhere near giving stats such as 1 in 100,000 about how frequent and what side effects are possible - it is not informed consent IMO. And we certainly don't have long-term data on 3 and 4 jabs within a short time period. The original trials were for 2 doses.

I was really unwell after my booster (week in bed) but I am prepared to keep having what ever is offered in order to keep others safe (and to keep my job).

You can't compare these covid jabs to rubella or measles with the lifelong immunity conferred tbh. It's more akin to flu jabs: not that great but it keeps the NHS limping along.

I'm not really bothered about vaccine passports as I doubt I wil go anywhere that needs one

Yep I’ll take all the boosters advised. I feed my body coffee, tea, chocolate, processed and fried food so I’m not sure I can draw the line at a vaccine that will help it fight off a disease.

@pointythings

Some side effect risks are independent variables - so whilst the chance of a particular side effect is 1 in million, take it 10 times and it's 1 in 100,000. Still a big number of course, but then the benefit of the vaccine in some groups is limited, the side effect risk is already similar to the covid risk - for those groups, the risk structure really does change.

Each vaccination is an independent event so no, the risk wouldn't be 1 in 100,000 at 10 times. It would still be 1 in a million.

Surely it becomes 10 in a million?

@sirfredfredgeorge every time you roll the dice it’s the same likelihood of getting a 6, one in six.

I’ll take every vaccine available, my mum died when she was 65, a friend of mine has just died at 61. I don’t want to take any unnecessary risks which would cause my daughters to suffer. I do take some risks, eg diving but I always wear a seatbelt, don’t drink & drive etc.

@Viviennemary

I had the booster and had a horrific headache and was extremely tired and very very sore arm. The way I feel at the moment is no more vaccines for me.

Diddums

No chance.

As someone who had horrific side effects imapcting my menstrual cycle because of the covid-19 vaccines, it would be stupid for me to get further vaccines. The fact that medical researchers are still unable to explain the reason is deeply worrying.

I'm young(ish!), healthy BMI, and have no underlying health conditions. I do hope my older/more vulnerable loved ones get jabbed though.

Surely it becomes 10 in a million?

Yep, which is 1 in 100,000

every time you roll the dice it’s the same likelihood of getting a 6, one in six

Yes so every time you take a vaccine (some) the chance of some of the side effects is the same - say 1 in million, but you do it 10 times and each time you have 1 in a million chance, but overall from the 10 trials your chance was 1 in 100,000. For anyone where the side effects are so much less chance than the harm, that's still fine - for someone where the benefits are marginal, that might be enough to swing it to being negative.

@Sittingonabench

Yep I’ll take all the boosters advised. I feed my body coffee, tea, chocolate, processed and fried food so I’m not sure I can draw the line at a vaccine that will help it fight off a disease.

And I'm the opposite. I don't eat any processed food, chocolate or junk. And yes I do mean any. I exercise daily - can run a marathon, cycle 100 miles and swim 2 miles, and I do.

I haven't had a cold in years (I did get Covid and was ill for about 3 days) but I have literally nothing wrong with me. I know I don't. I am pretty anal about my health - track and monitor everything. I haven't taken any medication for years.

I don't need a booster.

@EffOrfagain

I'm not really bothered about vaccine passports as I doubt I wil go anywhere that needs one

In parts of Aus, non essential retail and hairdressers are covered by the VP scheme.

More importantly, if you look at Italy and again at parts of Australia, they started with passports for leisure and have ended up with passports for almost all employment. Yes testing is an option (for the moment) but it isn't free. The situation escalated very quickly.

My point being that anyone who wants to make up their own mind about boosters in the future needs to be bothered

@valhalla17 not vulnerable in any way whatsoever. In far better health than many people younger than me. But I'll still take the jabs as I don't have time for illness.

@Viviennemary

I had the booster and had a horrific headache and was extremely tired and very very sore arm. The way I feel at the moment is no more vaccines for me.

But that's a good outcome. It means your body is generating a robust immune response.

Surely a few days discomfort is worth the lifesaving attributes of a vaccine?

*testing is not actually an option for the employment mandate in Victoria, Aus

I'll take whatever vaccine / booster is offered.

I am very bothered about vaccine passports @Battenburg77

I don't need the booster. Yet of course I foresee that I will literally be forced to have it, however insane that actually is

I mainly shop online, can easily cut my own hair and am retired so probably can avoid vaccine passports, if I needed one I'm sure I could get a booster shoved in my arm if I wanted

@Whyevencare

I'll take my chances

Haven't had a vaccine since the rubella one at school and I'm 50 now.

And you'll isolate so you don't pass the virus to others?

I work for the nhs, so I doubt I’ll have much choice in the future if I want to keep my job.

Sigh.

Each time you roll a die, the odds of rolling a 6 is 1 in 6. So let's imagine if you roll a 6, you get a day long headache. You roll the die and it's a 3. Great, no headache.

Next time you roll, the odds of you rolling a 6 are exactly the same. The fact that you rolled a 3 last time has no influence on this roll at all.

Same with the vaccine.

Yep, why not? If you got rushed to hospital, would you trust the doctors to treat you? What’s the difference?

@Valhalla17

Those that say " well I take the flu jab every year"....I assume that's because you're vulnerable or have an underlying condition that requires it...and I expect the same for Covid vaccines and boosters. Every single man, woman and child does not require this. Its beyond ridiculous.

No, I take it every year and I'm not vulnerable at all. Neither was my mother. She was a very healthy 54 year old with no underlying health issues when flu killed her in the space of 48 hours. Don't assume.

@Talsaml

It worries me that we may have to keep having vaccines going forward. I’m due my booster which I will take but I’m hearing that AZ are in the process of tweaking the current vaccine to combat the new strain. So we are then required to take another booster. Many variants can crop up, suppose another one does very soon. I’m concerned about the number of vaccines we could be taking. Is anyone else? And no I’m not an anti vaxer.

I feel the same as you. Just has my third, and starting to feel like a pin cushion. For me, that's 3 jabs since March. Fingers crossed it just becomes an annual thing.