Are you really prepared to take every single vaccine

[Talsaml]

It worries me that we may have to keep having vaccines going forward. I’m due my booster which I will take but I’m hearing that AZ are in the process of tweaking the current vaccine to combat the new strain. So we are then required to take another booster. Many variants can crop up, suppose another one does very soon. I’m concerned about the number of vaccines we could be taking. Is anyone else? And no I’m not an anti vaxer.

@RestingMurderousFace

I didn’t realise that so many people were having annual flu shots. Genuinely thought it was only offered to OAPs.

Almost everyone can have one, albeit not for free.

Older adults, anyone with a wide range of health issues and young children are offered the flu vaccine for free every year.

This year this widened more as the upper age group increased to over 50s and the age for children being offered it increased a lot. More CV people were also offered it, along with people living with them.

But outside of that, other people not eligible for a free vaccine can pay about £10 for a flu jab every year.

I know lots of people who pay for one, often having experienced a nasty dose themselves.

[quote NC180]@ravenmum this is not a funded cost/benefit analysis. This is a news article. Look up what a cost/benefit analysis is, and then try and find one. You wont![/quote]
It's a statement by the WHO describing the current status of the research and weighing up the "Burden of disease in children and adolescents", "The role of children and adolescents in transmission of SARS-CoV-2", "Socio-economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic and pandemic response on children and adolescents", "Efficacy and safety of COVID-19 vaccines in adolescents and children" and various other factors. The conclusion lists the benefits and drawbacks. I'm not sure why you are pretending it is a news article and does not include the benefits and drawbacks, as it partly supports your apparent opinion that children should not be vaccinated. Personally I think that most children would be fine with natural immunity, catching it in school, and that the risk of transmission that way is lower if they are regularly tested. All I was disagreeing with was your unfounded claim that there has been no analysis of these factors.

Not concerned about having lots of vaccines. I have my flu jab every year. Travel vaccinations as required and happy to have covid vaccines every 6 months or whenever needed to avoid unnecessary illness.

@Talsaml

I think I will have to see what happens in regards to the new variant before I decide what I do next. 3 vaccines in one year is a lot then a potential 4th.

Babies have around 12 jabs ( some of those jabs contain up to 6 vaccines) in the first year of their life

@NC180
Oh the irony
I haven’t been duped. Getting vaccinated IS the right thing to do.
It’s our best defence against Covid.

TheElvishQueen

"I’ve never had a flu vaccination in my life. Last time I had flu was seventeen years ago. Why have we suddenly all become so scared of flu?"

I'm also very surprised by these comments about flu

Sure if you're elderly or have an illness that makes you vulnerable I understand

But to be so concerned about the flu otherwise?

I haven't had the flu or even a cold for a few years but I wouldn't be afraid of catching either.

They're not pleasant but they're commonplace and rarely lead to complications.

If the people posting here are either elderly and/or have other vulnerabilities though that would make sense so perhaps that's the case.

I noticed one poster gets the shingles vaccination.
When I'm eligible for that ,(after age 70) damn sure I'll be getting any jabs going for respiratory diseases.

Flu is a nasty illness. I've had it twice, last time when I was 18, I honestly thought I would die I felt so ill.

Why not at least give yourself a good chance of avoiding it with a flu jab? You're also protecting those around you who you could pass it on to.

And to answer the question re boosters and future Covid jabs - yes please, I'll take anything that's required. Anything that might reduce my chance of catching and passing it on to others.

Flu is a nasty illness. I've had it twice, last time when I was 18, I honestly thought I would die I felt so ill

~10-20% of the population get flu every year, it's quite unlikely that you've only had it twice, of course only about half are symptomatic ( see www.cdc.gov/flu/about/keyfacts.htm for the US, similar for Europe, but that's a nice clear page)

I’ve never had flu. My mother had it when she was pregnant with me - she was hospitalised and thought she was going to die. She was 28.

I’ve been eligible for a free flu jab since I developed diabetes - have it every year, no reaction beyond soreness at the injection site. I’ve now had my 3 doses of Pfizer - a mild headache and feeling tired and a bit “off” the following day, getting progressively less each time.

So, yes, I will get boosters as and when they are recommended.

If people have had a severe reaction to the first doses and are younger and healthy, I can understand them being reluctant. But otherwise, I don’t see why it’s a big deal. Having a jab every year/6 months is hardly a major inconvenience .

"Flu is a nasty illness. I've had it twice, last time when I was 18, I honestly thought I would die I felt so ill."

Exactly. I was in my mid-twenties, fit as a fiddle (ah, them were the days) and flu had me bedridden for days and left me weak as a kitten. There is no way I'm risking it again, I take the flu jab gratefully.

Flu is a nasty illness. I've had it twice, last time when I was 18, I honestly thought I would die I felt so ill

3 times for me and I remember each time. The last time was 4 years ago when I was in my mid 40s. I was really ill. In bed for 3 weeks. I lost my hearing and it only returned partially. I wear hearing aids now.

I've had the flu vaccine very year since as I don't want to go through that again.

@WhereYouLeftIt

"Flu is a nasty illness. I've had it twice, last time when I was 18, I honestly thought I would die I felt so ill."

Exactly. I was in my mid-twenties, fit as a fiddle (ah, them were the days) and flu had me bedridden for days and left me weak as a kitten. There is no way I'm risking it again, I take the flu jab gratefully.

Yes - I sometimes wonder if people understand what 'proper' flu is like and just how ill it makes people and how long-lived the sequelae can be.

@sirfredfredgeorge

You've quoted US figures there, not sure what their flu vaccination rate is and how it compares with ours, but I'd imagine it's potentially not really directly comparable to UK flu outbreaks.

I've certainly had it twice aged 10 and aged 18, (plus I did have swine flu so I suppose that counts though I wasn't as ill) and have been vaccinated against it for the past 10+ years.

@ktel1

TheElvishQueen

"I’ve never had a flu vaccination in my life. Last time I had flu was seventeen years ago. Why have we suddenly all become so scared of flu?"

I'm also very surprised by these comments about flu

Sure if you're elderly or have an illness that makes you vulnerable I understand

But to be so concerned about the flu otherwise?

I haven't had the flu or even a cold for a few years but I wouldn't be afraid of catching either.

They're not pleasant but they're commonplace and rarely lead to complications.

If the people posting here are either elderly and/or have other vulnerabilities though that would make sense so perhaps that's the case.

I said this upthread but people have the flu jab if they are self employed and can't afford to take time off because they have the flu. Or they have caring responsibilities be it children or elderly parents etc.

It's no hardship to have the flu jab to prevent being out of action.

Yes I can understand that. Also elderly people who live alone.

@TheElvishQueen

Yes I can understand that. Also elderly people who live alone.

It's not fear of the flu, it's the fear of the disruption having the flu might cause I think. The loss of earnings or not being able to take elderly relatives to hospital or the Dc to school. If there's a jab that makes this less likely then it makes absolute sense.

I’ll take them all, thanks

[quote Valhalla17]@Glinsk I've had flu in my 30s. Felt like I was going to die, so know what it's like

I had my Covid vax recently as needed it for work, but to be honest pre-vax hanging around friends who were vaxxed actually triggered an autoimmune reaction in my body. 6months of being unwell and could only have my own vax once I had recovered. My period also randomly appeared the day after I met with all my vaxxed friends and it was really very odd.

I genuinely don't believe everyone needs these things...[/quote]
Sorry, but what fresh hell is this post about?!

So, hanging around with your vaccinated friends affected you. And you got your period the day after meeting your vaccinated friends?

I’ve seen some frustrating, annoying, stretching (insert any other adjective as necessary) posts on here. But this one has smacked my gob.

Please reassure me, there isn’t really anyone out there that thinks this is possible.

For anyone not getting the vaccine (and I understand that there can be reasons why someone can’t) - I hope you are making efforts to SD from those that have had it. Because if you get too close, this is what could happen.

Hanging around vaccinated people triggering am immune response seems very unlikely. What's the possible mechanism?

I had very bad flu in my twenties. My body hurt so much initially that I cried. Thought I was dying and felt to rough I didn't care. Very high fever.
But nothing since and I'm not scared of getting it again. I got better.

So no I wouldn't have the flu vaccine despite knowing how floored one can be. I dont think its a coincidence that I've never had it since, apparently a bad bout does give you broad lasting immunity even bearing in mind that the strains mutate.

Last time I had flu it was really bad but these are the things that build your body’s immune response.

Badly

@KrispyKale

Hanging around vaccinated people triggering am immune response seems very unlikely. What's the possible mechanism?

God knows, it’s just so bloody ludicrous. I can’t get my head around how someone can believe that this is what happened to them.

So, hanging around with your vaccinated friends affected you. And you got your period the day after meeting your vaccinated friends?

This is a severe case of someone equating correlation with causation. There is no scientific evidence whatsoever to support that this happens with any of the COVID vaccines. Some people however are an evidence-free zone.