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Vaccine for 5+

416 replies

NotTheBaby · 20/11/2021 21:30

It’s on sky news now. Leaked document stating 5 year olds and above to be vaccinated from spring. I’m so hesitant to get my children done, when I couldn’t wait for mine. Why is this so much harder than it should be? Or am I just overthinking it?

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TheLovelinessOfDemons · 21/11/2021 08:43

@Hotcoffee10

There is no benefit to healthy kids getting this vaccine only risks. I urge all parents on here to make it very clear to your elected representatives that your children’s interests come first and should be placed centre if any decision.
What about protecting vulnerable family members who could die from even a mild form of Covid?
SickAndTiredAgain · 21/11/2021 08:46

What about protecting vulnerable family members who could die from even a mild form of Covid?

This is a genuine question, but how much protection does one dose offer if there’s a CEV family member? Obviously it’s better than nothing, but does it make enough of a difference?

TheLovelinessOfDemons · 21/11/2021 08:52

@SickAndTiredAgain

What about protecting vulnerable family members who could die from even a mild form of Covid?

This is a genuine question, but how much protection does one dose offer if there’s a CEV family member? Obviously it’s better than nothing, but does it make enough of a difference?

I'm inclined to agree with you, but, as you say, it's better than nothing. Hopefully, if we're all vaccinated, my eldest DS's hospital will give the green light to us visiting him at home, or him visiting us.
RobinPenguins · 21/11/2021 08:53

What about protecting vulnerable family members who could die from even a mild form of Covid?

That sounds a really difficult situation. But wouldn’t testing/isolating before visiting be a safer option?

MamanSparkles · 21/11/2021 09:00

This is great news as long as it's a choice. Because:

  • thousands of children are being hospitalised every month with covid. It isnt always mild, that was a myth the government were pushing to avoid investing in safety measures in schools
  • children with underlying conditions
  • children who live with very vulnerable family members
I will be getting my five year old vaccinated in a heartbeat, because that is the right thing for our family's situation.
NotTheBaby · 21/11/2021 09:03

@GalesThisMorning that’s exactly why I think I’ll get mine done. I have always trusted doctors so far and will continue to do so. My fear is that the doctors and scientists are being pushed to create and endorse the vaccine, without the time for full trials to see the long term effects

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Simonjt · 21/11/2021 09:07

@RobinPenguins

What about protecting vulnerable family members who could die from even a mild form of Covid?

That sounds a really difficult situation. But wouldn’t testing/isolating before visiting be a safer option?

Do you think those of us who are CEV live alone, or are childless?
Barbie222 · 21/11/2021 09:08

I'm pleased about this. I think we need to do what we can to get the numbers of hospitalised / long covid in kids down to as low as possible.

PingleO · 21/11/2021 09:09

@MamanSparkles

This is great news as long as it's a choice. Because:
  • thousands of children are being hospitalised every month with covid. It isnt always mild, that was a myth the government were pushing to avoid investing in safety measures in schools
  • children with underlying conditions
  • children who live with very vulnerable family members
I will be getting my five year old vaccinated in a heartbeat, because that is the right thing for our family's situation.

Exactly.
And here lies the problems.
The government keep moving the goalposts and changing the information.

First, children don't get it, children don't get ill, children don't spread it.... Now we know, very clearly that none of this is true and the spread is is being driven by children.

Next, vaccines are required for nightclubs.... then they're not.

Then, there should be a 4 week gap between covid infection and vaccine. Now it needs to be a 3 month gap.

I completely agree with vaccination, but we need the facts and to ensure full safety. Many kids have now been vaccinated 4 weeks after infection, before the guidelines changed.

RobinPenguins · 21/11/2021 09:10

Do you think those of us who are CEV live alone, or are childless?

No. But that’s not the situation that poster was describing which was clearly about visiting a family member.

RobinPenguins · 21/11/2021 09:12

[quote NotTheBaby]@GalesThisMorning that’s exactly why I think I’ll get mine done. I have always trusted doctors so far and will continue to do so. My fear is that the doctors and scientists are being pushed to create and endorse the vaccine, without the time for full trials to see the long term effects[/quote]
It’s the fact that the medical authorities - the CMO, JVCI etc are taking a cautious approach that makes me want to be cautious too. If it was as clear cut as it’s being made out there wouldn’t be this hesitation.

I’m far more inclined to trust them than I am to trust the US decisions, for example.

ChloeDecker · 21/11/2021 09:16

I’ll be very happy to be able to vaccinate my 6 year old against Covid.

EasterIssland · 21/11/2021 09:27

@MamanSparkles

This is great news as long as it's a choice. Because:
  • thousands of children are being hospitalised every month with covid. It isnt always mild, that was a myth the government were pushing to avoid investing in safety measures in schools
  • children with underlying conditions
  • children who live with very vulnerable family members
I will be getting my five year old vaccinated in a heartbeat, because that is the right thing for our family's situation.
Thousands every month … in the uk? Do you have a source ?
Legoninjago1 · 21/11/2021 09:34

I'd vaccinate mine happily if it was a lifetime jab like their other childhood immunizations. Mine have had all the standard ones and several more privately. However what's the plan here? Jab them now and then boost them in six months and then jab them again next winter and every winter after that? For something would probably barely touch them. I don't know.

Legoninjago1 · 21/11/2021 09:36

When it comes to it I probably will btw....it's just not as clear cut to me as getting mine. I'm positively excited about getting my booster...!

SickAndTiredAgain · 21/11/2021 09:44

I'd vaccinate mine happily if it was a lifetime jab like their other childhood immunizations.

Tetanus and whooping cough are two that aren’t effective for life (I think protection against mumps also wanes but not totally sure). But I take your point that even these that don’t last forever last a lot longer than a single covid vaccine dose would.

LettertoHermoine · 21/11/2021 09:47

Can someone answer a question for me. Do they give the same dose to kids? I mean would they give the same dose as they would give to a 6 foot man to a tiny 5 year old?

dementedpixie · 21/11/2021 09:50

No I think the younger age groups (under 12) get a smaller dose (½ maybe)

Remmy123 · 21/11/2021 09:51

I can't get my head around why kids of such young age need these vaccines, seeing as you can still pass it on.

I'm not comfortable with it so I'll be waiting like I am with my 12 year old.

MiniatureHotdog · 21/11/2021 09:53

My three DC (primary age) won't be having the vaccine.

dementedpixie · 21/11/2021 09:54

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/02/cdc-recommend-covid-19-vaccine-young-children This says ⅓rd of the dose that older people get

LettertoHermoine · 21/11/2021 09:54

@dementedpixie

No I think the younger age groups (under 12) get a smaller dose (½ maybe)
Thanks Pixie, I didn’t know if they gave the same dose or not.
dementedpixie · 21/11/2021 09:56

@Remmy123

I can't get my head around why kids of such young age need these vaccines, seeing as you can still pass it on.

I'm not comfortable with it so I'll be waiting like I am with my 12 year old.

Vaccines do cut transmission
OnlyFoolsnMothers · 21/11/2021 09:57

No way- the heart issues, the changes in periods- we just don’t know enough to start injecting such young, low risk children.

Remmy123 · 21/11/2021 09:58

@dementedpixie but do they though because I know many vaccinated people who have passed it on to other vaccinated. it's absolutely rife where we are right now.

I'm just not convinced as yet.