Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

And now ... The Symptomless Variant!!

113 replies

SencosRshit · 19/11/2021 17:54

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/delta-plus-symptomless-variant-driving-22198497

OP posts:
WonderfulYou · 19/11/2021 22:43

Does it matter if you have it though?

Are you worried about being ill or passing it on?

Sparklingbrook · 19/11/2021 22:51

This topic gets more bizarre by the day. AFAIK it's always been the case that you can have it with no symptoms.

ilovesooty · 19/11/2021 23:03

@SencosRshit

I’ve run out of LFTs and they’re not handing them out round here anymore.

I thought they were phasing that out to save money.

Should I be getting a PCR done weekly, at least?

You can order them online.
ilovesooty · 19/11/2021 23:04

@SencosRshit

I wonder if the vaccines work for the symptomless variant
FFS.
Sparklingbrook · 19/11/2021 23:36

I just ordered LFTs online. They’ll be here Monday.

ilovesooty · 19/11/2021 23:38

@Sparklingbrook

I just ordered LFTs online. They’ll be here Monday.
I ordered some on Monday evening. Arrived on Wednesday.
SencosRshit · 19/11/2021 23:47

www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851

Searching for people who are asymptomatic yet infectious is like searching for needles that appear and reappear transiently in haystacks, particularly when rates are falling.19 Mass testing risks the harmful diversion of scarce resources. A further concern is the use of inadequately evaluated tests as screening tools in healthy populations.

I don't think I'll bother.

OP posts:
DumplingsAndStew · 19/11/2021 23:53

When will this end?

When we make it end.

We've done enough now.

It's time to live with it.

Everyone vulnerable is vaccinated.

People only die if they were going to die anyway.

Dead people don't matter.

Neither do ill people.

Wake up people.

Do your research.

You're all being lied to.

Is that enough?
Is that what you were looking for?

ilovesooty · 19/11/2021 23:53

Don't bother then. I do regular tests as a duty of care to my clients. You can do as you please if you don't deem it necessary.

PurpleDaisies · 19/11/2021 23:56

@SencosRshit

www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851

Searching for people who are asymptomatic yet infectious is like searching for needles that appear and reappear transiently in haystacks, particularly when rates are falling.19 Mass testing risks the harmful diversion of scarce resources. A further concern is the use of inadequately evaluated tests as screening tools in healthy populations.

I don't think I'll bother.

You realise that article is nearly a year old? Things have moved on a bit since then. It was a completely different situation back then.
MrsSkylerWhite · 19/11/2021 23:57

Do you get out much?

ollyollyoxenfree · 20/11/2021 00:00

@SencosRshit

www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851

Searching for people who are asymptomatic yet infectious is like searching for needles that appear and reappear transiently in haystacks, particularly when rates are falling.19 Mass testing risks the harmful diversion of scarce resources. A further concern is the use of inadequately evaluated tests as screening tools in healthy populations.

I don't think I'll bother.

Yup, which is why many posters told you that you can LFT if you want to.

Mass testing is problematic if you're causing many individuals to isolate if it has harmful consequences for people impacted.

If you're someone who it doesn't matter if you need to spend a day at home (i.e., you've got a comfortable environment to stay in and they'll be no economic or health implications for you doing so) then LFT-ing makes sense.

If not, then don't do it.

ollyollyoxenfree · 20/11/2021 00:04

Clearly you think the pandemic is all a big con and no-one should be bothering to test or get vaccinated, so why spend so much time on the coronavirus board starting thread after thread? @SencosRshit

Sparklingbrook · 20/11/2021 05:54

I don't think I'll bother

Confused
WhatMattersMost · 20/11/2021 09:54

@ollyollyoxenfree

Clearly you think the pandemic is all a big con and no-one should be bothering to test or get vaccinated, so why spend so much time on the coronavirus board starting thread after thread? *@SencosRshit*
My thoughts exactly.
xxxGirlCrushxxx · 20/11/2021 10:00

This new 'variant' is called the common sense variant..... no symptoms,no lft required,just carry on as NORMAL

bumbleymummy · 20/11/2021 10:03

@BenjiMcSchmenzie

I may be missing something but if it doesn’t make you ill, isn’t that a good thing and shows that the bug is mutating to become less deadly…?
Yeah, you would think! But the obsession with case numbers rather than hospitalisations makes the situation seem much worse. A high number of symptomless cases would actually be great news.
PingedPotato · 20/11/2021 10:20

I don't think I'll bother. completely up to you.

WonderfulYou · 20/11/2021 10:24

What an odd thread Confused

rwalker · 20/11/2021 10:29

Do you have health anxiety

PrincessNutNuts · 20/11/2021 11:17

@xxxGirlCrushxxx

This new 'variant' is called the common sense variant..... no symptoms,no lft required,just carry on as NORMAL
Symptomless spread is a common feature of many illnesses, such as Typhoid, Cholera, HIV Chlamydia, Gonorrhoea, Herpes, HPV, TB, Hepatitis, C Diff...

Being asymptomatic in humans - at least initially - is an advantage for the virus, not for humans.

It enables it to spread undetected without us doing anything to stop it.

(It might be behind the "sudden" surges in Germany, Netherlands, and Austria, among others. )

Being symptomless would enable covid to spread all over the world quickly and constantly through our travel. We are much more helpful hosts that those bats.

It keeps the pandemic going.

It makes it much harder to keep covid under control.

It would require constant routine testing.

It enables a small number of hosts to infect a large number of people like Typhoid Mary.

It increases the number of variants, the possibility of more vaccine escape, and increases the number of times we'll each catch covid.

It helps covid evolve into a fitter pathogen because more cases = more mutations.

It is unlikely to be symptomless for everyone.

It may not be symptomless forever.

It may be one of the viruses that is only mild or symptomless at first, but can do silent damage, make you susceptible to something else, or turn into a serious illness later. Like HIV, chickenpox/shingles. Polio, Chlamydia.

🦠 TL;DR Being symptomless is good news for covid. Not us. 🦠

PurpleDaisies · 20/11/2021 11:25

I wonder if people have actually read about this variant?

It isn’t “symptomless”. It’s only less likely to cause classic symptoms.

PrincessNutNuts · 20/11/2021 11:38

@PurpleDaisies

I wonder if people have actually read about this variant?

It isn’t “symptomless”. It’s only less likely to cause classic symptoms.

Can you link to something please.

I've only seen sensationalism. .

FreshFreesias · 20/11/2021 12:10

Something new for Covid Cultists to worry about 🤣

vodkaredbullgirl · 20/11/2021 12:17
Hmm