Masks back in Classrooms in secondary schools.

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Our LEA have reintroduced masks in secondary schools, it's out first experience of this as DC us year 7. I'm absolutely not anti mask, DC willing wear one in shops etc and when moving about in school but is upset this morning about having to wear one all day, I'm guessing they will get used to it soon enough but I feel so sad about the whole situation, these kids have been through so much. It also makes me wonder if this is now the step before back to home learning.
I know we need to control the virus I'm not even complaining I'm just venting that this bloody thing is still here.

Too late to stop them being infected when 70-75% already have been, yes

Ah, so nothing to do with your normal natural immunity blag then?

You're the one that said looking at reinfection data would be useful, Marsha, I'm not sure why you think it would be reliable.

Find anything then that backs up your claim re higher reinfection in that age.

I haven't made a claim of a higher reinfection rate in that age Marsha

Tg for that

So if it’s not what is the issue for you?

Perhaps you are unaware of bumbley's persistent posts about natural immunity, particularly around the child vaccination programme.

What’s your issue with immunity after infection noble? Surely it’s a good thing?

I don’t see that as relevant in this discussion and I can’t remember atm what everyone has said in the past

Someone said we are at 75% for children

• then posts re antibodies are low so that doesn’t mean much

• to are they reinfected at higher rate?

No evidence and no

So the 75% is still relevant

What’s your issue with immunity after infection noble?

The infection bit that precedes it, which, as you know, is not without consequence.

to are they reinfected at higher rate?

No evidence and no

I must have missed the bit where you showed that they weren't being reinfected at a higher rate to enable you to make that claim? The reinfection data will be bobbins, so where are you getting your info from?

Again I don’t need to

There’s no evidence for your claim even you admit that you don’t claim it to be true

Distracted there… but no I’m not on the hunt for stuff I don’t need to be

You can if you want to validate the argument you have brought to thread

@noblegiraffe

What’s your issue with immunity after infection noble?

The infection bit that precedes it, which, as you know, is not without consequence.

But for those children who have now had it without consequence, what is your issue? We can’t turn back the clock and in infect them. There is no evidence to suggest that they are being reinfected at a higher rate than adults and plenty of studies showing that they do develop immunity so that seems to be a positive thing.

Uninfect*

@MarshaBradyo

Again I don’t need to

There’s no evidence for your claim even you admit that you don’t claim it to be true

You do, you made the claim that they are not being reinfected at a higher rate.

I don't think you've actually provided any evidence that would decide this either way, so how can you claim they're not being reinfected at a higher rate?

I know you're loathe to actually do any legwork when it comes to your opinions, but you can't make claims and then just say 'I don't need to provide evidence'.

I’m asking you for evidence

I thought that was clear

I can’t help you if it’s not.

But since you can’t provide it it’s baseless.

You're asking me for evidence for a claim that I haven't made. (That children are being reinfected at a higher rate - I never said this)

You're refusing to provide evidence for a claim that you have made. (That children are not being reinfected at a higher rate - you have said this).

Anyone who makes a claim like that on here generally backs it up, or is asked to.

Unless they are stubborn enough to demand everyone else disprove it.

I mean I get how invested you are in being right but you haven’t provided anything. So maybe just stop? Probably the better way to go.

I am a teacher (not in the UK ) we have very few restrictions now except for compulsory masks in inside public areas including schools. We also have one of the lowest covid rates in Europe.

So again if they are not reinfected at a higher rate what is your issue?

Anyone who makes a claim like that on here generally backs it up, or is asked to.

You claimed that children are not being reinfected at a higher rate. I am asking for your evidence for this assertion.

Do you not understand that you have made a claim?

So again if they are not reinfected at a higher rate what is your issue?

You are again again asserting something that you have not evidenced.

@noblegiraffe

So again if they are not reinfected at a higher rate what is your issue?

You are again again asserting something that you have not evidenced.

This is comical

It’s either higher rate and an issue

Or not and no issue

Which?

@noblegiraffe
@Marshabradyo
Shall we just accept nobody knows?
I still think masks in classrooms are detrimental to learning, and we should be doing household isolation and other mitigation first.

I don't know if it's a higher rate, Marsha, I don't think any reliable data exists on the issue.

You seem to think that it's not a higher rate, so you must be aware of some reliable data, and I'm waiting for you to provide it.