AIBU That we learn to accept COVID is here to stay!

[Jakie7700]

That now a massive number is double vaccinated those who want to be and that teenagers have started to be offered them, it seems so ridiculous that kids are still losing out on school because they are being sent home as they have a minor cold with minor cough. Covid will still be around in years to come, so will children still be sent home then with a mild cough due to colds?

Many missed days of school waiting for PCR results, parents usually mothers missing work over and over. Nobody seemed to care two years back when these same children were spreading flu, chicken pox etc which can all kill or cause serious complications both in adults and children.

Nothing is going to change you can get COVID again like a cold. Just last week I heard of two friends kids being sent home because of mild cough (coughed three/four times the whole day) missed days of school waiting for results only to be negative and then told this will happen every time they have a cough which as most will know in primary children will be alot over winter! These same parents who have nearly lost jobs due to having to juggle childcare through lockdowns. Surely it is just time to accept COVID is isn't going anywhere and stop making kids espeically suffer.

[quote Jakie7700]@ArialAnna
That seems like a very good approach your childs school have in place.[/quote]
Unless you are a member of staff or child who is vulnerable to Covid. Then ignoring coughing students may not be quite so good a policy.

[quote Jakie7700]@ArthurTudor
I am not bashing teachers. Yes most are using that guidance but like me and another poster have said there seems to be some schools not following it the same as other schools seem too.

In those schools I am talking about whether you like it or not it will be the teacher or head telling the parent their child can attend with a mild cough as long as they are not coughing constantly.[/quote]
So do you agree with those schools?

You are happy for schools and headteachers to ignore the government, LEA and, almost certainly, their own risk assessments when it comes to one of the most well known Covid symptoms there is?

@Jakie7700 are you saying I’ve bullied you? For asking you to clarify a couple of things about your OP as it wasn’t/isn’t clear? That you’ve studiously avoided doing?

To be clear I asked you to clarify if the point of your OP was that we stop testing children? And what you were referring to when you mentioned chickenpox and flu as you subsequently said it wasn’t to compare them to covid so I asked for clarification of what it was about….

Nosquit

You wouldn't be taking them all the time as, as you say, these are not new symptoms for you. They are normal symptoms for you to have and you are not presenting with something unusual. I am sure that, as an adult, you recognise your own normal allergy symptoms.

*Lateral flow tests are actually very accurate (95%) at detecting covid if you do the test when symptoms start
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Unfortunately most people don't test with the very earliest symptoms as they are usually not one if the 'big 3' so are often ignored.

When I was admitted to hospital when I had Covid I did not display any of the main three symptoms. I did start a light cough a couple of days later. I had a raised temperature for a couple of hours when the cough started. I never lost my sense of taste or smell, though did get a metallic taste for a while. My symptoms were not ones which would warrant testing if following just the main three ones in the government pages.

@noblegiraffe

Biz you said it If you miss 1-2 days of school every month , yeh it is.

But now you're saying no I don’t have data to support that claim! Nor did I say it is what is currently happening.

So you're claiming that it is unreasonable to ask pupils in high covid infection areas to PCR test for an expanded list of symptoms because they may have to miss 1-2 days of school a month although you have nothing to support that?

Why don’t you try following the thread and engaging constructively , instead of making up what people are saying and then arguing with them on the basis of your made up , semi-incoherent nonsense.

I never claimed to have any data on how much school children are currently missing. My point was IF children were required to take a PCR for all virus symptoms (which they currently are not in the vast majority of LAs), it would likely result in children missing an inordinate amount of school, given the frequency with which small children have runny noses/ headaches/ etc etc, and the average length of time to process a PCR.

instead of making up what people are saying

Literally quoted you.

it would likely result in children missing an inordinate amount of school

So 1-2 days a month was just made up. Ok.

You don’t appear to have taken into account the 10 days children have to isolate with covid. It’s possible that extra measures to prevent covid spreading in children when infection rates are very high may save days of education.

@noblegiraffe

instead of making up what people are saying

Literally quoted you.

it would likely result in children missing an inordinate amount of school

So 1-2 days a month was just made up. Ok.

You don’t appear to have taken into account the 10 days children have to isolate with covid. It’s possible that extra measures to prevent covid spreading in children when infection rates are very high may save days of education.

Yeh you quoted my words out of context and claimed they meant something they didn’t 🤷🏼‍♀️.

As is clear from the context, 1-2 days per month was a very rough guesstimate based on children getting common viruses on average 8-12 times a year, and PCR tests taking around 24 hours to process.

I don’t think making children take PCRs every time they have virus symptoms compared to LFTs would have a significant impact on reducing the spread of Covid.

As is clear from the context, 1-2 days per month was a very rough guesstimate based on children getting common viruses on average 8-12 times a year, and PCR tests taking around 24 hours to process

So by " very rough guesstimate" you mean making stuff up?

The made-up data fitting the point you were making is indeed convenient.

Bizawit

Did someone make you the thread police?

and your point is still made up.

My comment was deleted, so I will say it again- I was in noway presenting data and my comment was completely reasonable in the context it was made and for the purposes of the point I was making.

@Bizawit

I don’t think making children take PCRs every time they have virus symptoms compared to LFTs would have a significant impact on reducing the spread of Covid.

Thank you for sharing that with us.

OK.

Let's go round the circle and share other things we think:

I think Tunnocks tea cakes have too much marshmallow.

Would anyone else like to share their random opinion on something?

There's a captive audience on this thread, so feel free.

my comment was completely reasonable in the context it was made

Children get 8-12 viruses per year (seems particularly high, maybe my kids are very robust?)
So let’s go with one a month, the absolute top end of what already seems a quite high estimate
And they, unlike covid, are never asymptomatic
And they always happen when testing needs to happen on a school day, never weekends or half terms
And the child has symptoms but never enough to require the day off school, any school missed is down to the testing only
And the child never actually has covid so the testing is pointless

Omg this policy causes children to miss 1-2 days of school a month.

It wasn’t a “random opinion” and I think it’s a totally reasonable estimate given the amount of LFTs I’ve done on my small child.

I’m not sure what benefit continuing to hammer me for this point is serving? Or does belittling a rando on the internet make you feel better?

@thecatfromjapan I already explained my basis for that opinion. LFTs if symptomatic are highly accurate so would pick up the majority of cases. And if you disagree that’s fine, but there’s really no need to be rude.

I think it’s a totally reasonable estimate given the amount of LFTs I’ve done on my small child.

Well there’s an issue of sample size there…and you said they were a toddler so not appropriate to extrapolate to a school-age population either.

@noblegiraffe

I think it’s a totally reasonable estimate given the amount of LFTs I’ve done on my small child.

Well there’s an issue of sample size there…and you said they were a toddler so not appropriate to extrapolate to a school-age population either.

Ok

Well my daughter had missed two weeks of her ALevel course because her teachers are off sick presumably with COVID. So just living with it hasn't really helped her as it is rife in her school.

Sorry and it certainly hasn't helped her teachers who are poorly.

@backofbeyond50 very good point! Covid is rife in my school. A member of my department has just got a positive test and won't be in next week. My husband's (he's a teacher too) had all but one teacher hit at the same time! Saying that children should remain in school even with covid symptoms so that they don't miss education has the potential to backfire massively... if the children are in school but there's nobody there to teach them, that's not much good for their education either!

Backofbeyond50

We are generally no allowed to mention that teachers get covid.
For some reason this upsets various posters.

[quote surreygirl1987]@backofbeyond50 very good point! Covid is rife in my school. A member of my department has just got a positive test and won't be in next week. My husband's (he's a teacher too) had all but one teacher hit at the same time! Saying that children should remain in school even with covid symptoms so that they don't miss education has the potential to backfire massively... if the children are in school but there's nobody there to teach them, that's not much good for their education either![/quote]
I can only assume such posters are completely ignorant 😬