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will covid ever go away

119 replies

essexgirl58 · 21/10/2021 22:23

As of today the covid figures have topped 50,000.

I blame the Government for relaxing the wearing of masks. Even on public transport where the wearing of masks is compulsory, many people are not adhering to this and nobody takes any notice.

Venues have been opened such as cinemas and gyms and people do not have to wear a mask.

Even places of worship are relaxed and they say oh you do not have to wear a mask. There is also no limit on the numbers at funerals.

Roll on the winter

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Chessie678 · 21/10/2021 23:40

Well 97% of adults have antibodies and apparently 75% of children have already had it. Maybe people having it a few more times will improve immunity and slow the spread but it might not. Apparently about 20% of the population get flu in a bad year - that's 12m people or on average 1m a month, not way off our current covid rates.

Tuba437 · 21/10/2021 23:42

[quote Porcupineintherough]@Tuba437 no because within a year or two most everyone will be vaccinated and/or had it a time or two and it will be just another virus for the vast, vast majority. Children will get it a few times in childhood and the up and coming generation of adults wont need vaccinating at all, or at least not til old age. It would just be a holding measure til then and a very situational and seasonal one at that.[/quote]
Surely while the chances are slim of getting seriously ill for the vaccinated it's best to just get it out the way now rather than drag it out. Very rarely are children seriously ill with the virus so although the vaccines for them will reduce transition slightly I wouldn't say we need to batten down the hatches until they are vaccinated.

You are essentially saying we should bring back restriction until we all slowly get I'll from the virus...

Tuba437 · 21/10/2021 23:44

@Chessie678

Well 97% of adults have antibodies and apparently 75% of children have already had it. Maybe people having it a few more times will improve immunity and slow the spread but it might not. Apparently about 20% of the population get flu in a bad year - that's 12m people or on average 1m a month, not way off our current covid rates.
Exactly, however because it's not covid, people generally don't give a shit about it. If the world put as much money into preventing sepsis every year we would also save millions of lives but because its not cocid people don't give a shit!
BrilloSolar · 21/10/2021 23:45

Around June 2020 I read that most pandemics are 'over' in 2 years. But we've artificially extended this one in some ways by slowing the spread. So maybe a bit of a blip this winter but by next winter I'd say it will be totally just a statistic we're used to.

How worried were you, and how much did you change your behaviour in 2018 when we had a very bad flu year that was front cover of most newspapers? I think that will be about as much concern as we give Covid in 2023.

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essexgirl58 · 21/10/2021 23:48

I have never had covid. I dont know why. Since the government relaxed the wearing of masks, I do not always wear one in shops. Someone said to me that perhaps before covid hit and we knew about it, I had a bit of covid in the form of a cold and have build up a good immune system. I do not really know about that but I very much dount it. What surprises me is that I go to a dance class. The only criteria they ask is that everyone has to be double vacinated. People touch hands in this dance group and obvioously get up close to one another. I suppose if you are a vulnerable person then you would stay away, but any person in the group could be carrying the virus and bring it into the group and pass it on. I know someone whose daughter had it recently at school and came home and the whole family caught it. That reminded me of something whih happened to me 20 years ago. I went round someones house and their daughter picked up chickenpox from her friend at school. Howevver, the daughter showed no symptoms at that time and I got quite close to her. Two days later I was quite spotty and the doctor told me I had chickenpox. I then foound out that the daughter also had chiccenpox but because she had no idea she had it, she did not stay away from people and thus passed it onto me

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Porcupineintherough · 22/10/2021 00:09

@Tuba437 some of the more minor restrictions, yes I am. I dont really think masks in shops and cinemas or lecture theatres or secondary classrooms are such a bad idea when rates are climbing like now. Nor do I think its sensible for one half of a couple to go out and about as normal when their partner has COVID. I'm not calling for a return to going into isolation if you are pinged, or schools shutting or lockdown.

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makelovenotpetrol · 22/10/2021 10:48

Of course it won't

Dishhh · 22/10/2021 11:25

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

Do you think even if we imposed restrictions it would go away? Didn’t Australia try that one.

Can I just say that Australia was doing really well until an infected traveller from England brought Covid back to our shores. (This was confirmed by genomic testing.) It likely would have happened anyway, but can we stop with the comparisons between Australia/New Zealand and Britain please?

Againstmachine · 22/10/2021 11:33

Even on public transport where the wearing of masks is compulsory, many people are not adhering to this and nobody takes any notice.

Only in London in England is it compulsory on public transport and not by law eithier.

Delatron · 22/10/2021 12:19

Wales currently have the highest Covid rates in the U.K.. it’s 1 in 49 people there who have Covid. They still have masks.

I don’t understand why we are focusing so much on cases. We are testing so much. Asymptomatic people. Of course we will uncover lots of cases. We test 4 times as much as France..

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 22/10/2021 12:39

but can we stop with the comparisons between Australia/New Zealand and Britain please? why? No
Country has a fool proof plan to eradicate the virus- if you don’t look and compare, be it U.K. against India, Israel, China- then how will any country learn and adapt

80sMum · 22/10/2021 12:40

Nope! It's here to stay.

FreeBritnee · 22/10/2021 12:40

At some point we’ll just stop testing for it and it will merge with all the other viruses.

Egghead68 · 22/10/2021 12:42

No it won’t go away but with luck it will become seasonal

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 22/10/2021 12:43

@FreeBritnee

At some point we’ll just stop testing for it and it will merge with all the other viruses.
Can’t wait for this point
megletthesecond · 22/10/2021 12:44

No. But the vaccines will reduce it and we'll find some better treatments for it. I assume we'll have a jab every autumn from now on.

Artie30 · 22/10/2021 12:48

I don't think it will go away but we can only hope it will evolve over time and become more like a cold for everyone who gets it.

It's an odd virus. My friend had it, her kids did not catch it from her yet they caught it a few weeks later when there was an out break at their school (but didn't catch it form someone they actually live with). Another friend of mine teen had it and she's just got a headache she didn't think much of it - detected on a lft.

I still wear a mask but I'm not convinced they do much!

thewhatsit · 22/10/2021 12:56

Venues have been opened such as cinemas and gyms and people do not have to wear a mask

Gyms were opened with no masks in April. Hmm I’ve been since the day everything opened and they were only ever worn in the foyer, not where people are actually changing or working out.

I’m not disputing that there is a benefit to masks although there is a human cost too (let’s not pretend it is healthy for babies and toddlers to not see faces) but please remember that masks are still mandatory in Scotland (although not you know… on a treadmill in the gym or in a yoga class or something …) and cases are high there too. There are lots of factors at play.

Did you really think it would simply go away though?

romdowa · 22/10/2021 12:57

Honestly probably not. I'm in Ireland and we have one of the highest vaccination rates , strictest and longest restrictions and yet we still have some of the highest daily numbers. Unless we all stay in our homes and hide forever, then it's not ever going to go away totally. It will just have to become like colds and flu , where we just live with it.

Warhertisuff · 22/10/2021 12:57

@BrilloSolar

Around June 2020 I read that most pandemics are 'over' in 2 years. But we've artificially extended this one in some ways by slowing the spread. So maybe a bit of a blip this winter but by next winter I'd say it will be totally just a statistic we're used to.

How worried were you, and how much did you change your behaviour in 2018 when we had a very bad flu year that was front cover of most newspapers? I think that will be about as much concern as we give Covid in 2023.

I agree... The more we suppress it, the longer the pandemic the longer it will continue. Covid will be endemic everywhere eventually... Those that take longest to get to that point will be those with the greatest restrictions currently.
IndigoC · 22/10/2021 12:59

@TinaYouFatLard

Wales kept compulsory mask wearing all the time. They didn’t work.
They should be N95s, like Germany. And to be effective everybody needs to actually wear them.
Warhertisuff · 22/10/2021 13:00

@Porcupineintherough

The point of masks is not to make it go away because, as you have rightly pointed out, it's not going anywhere. The point of masks and other measures such as household isolation is to slow down the spread so it stays manageable.

The key question is what constitutes manageable and acceptable spread?

bluetuesdayy · 22/10/2021 13:01

@essexgirl58 'roll on winter'

You sounds desperate for restrictions to return - which btw still won't make Covid go away.

KingsleyShacklebolt · 22/10/2021 13:05

They've really got a lot of people convinced that masks are this magic thing which stops all illnesses.

No, Covid isn't going away. Ever. Every year people are going to catch it, some might die.

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