How many of you will comply?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

There is so much misinformation on this thread it's worrying.

Someone saying that in their area people are wearing masks yet cases are does not = proof that masks don't work. That is taking probably less than 1% of one country, nothing has measured it really, and it's on someone's say so.

It's quite clear masks do work but the key is that it needs to be properly fitting (without gaps) and of the right material.

IMO the surgical masks aren't much use. You see them gaping at the sides too much. A properly fitting mask that has good filtration does work, you can only look at the study at Addenbrookes to see that.

As for me... I'll do as I have all along - comply with the things that are grounded in scientific reality.

There is no point not going outside if you have zero contact with anyone. Or, for example, it's OK for someone to travel 2 miles but not 4 miles if they have no contact with anyone.

I want this awful pandemic to end and I want cases to be low over the winter - the only way to that, sadly, is to have some restrictions otherwise it is going to absolutely skyrocket. No one wants that. So yes, I won't be going to pubs, restaurants, temporarily. I went over the summer when I could sit outside. There is such a a vast difference between outdoor and indoor transmission. For the worst winter month's I doubt I will see anyone inside which will be very hard. And I will carry on wearing a mask when I go into shops or public places. I want to reduce transmission.

*cases are high

IMO the surgical masks aren't much use. You see them gaping at the sides too much. A properly fitting mask that has good filtration does work, you can only look at the study at Addenbrookes to see that.

I understand what you're saying but who is going to pay for the masks? I looked on the Boots website and they have 5 single use FFP2 masks (great for the environment!) for £9.99. I'm certainly not paying that and there's a lot of people that won't be able to afford them.

I will comply

[quote purpleflowerlegs]@DietCokeChipsAndMayo for the 50millionth time, the extra hospitals HAD NO STAFF so they couldn't be used. It's not like the need isn't desperately there for more hospitals. Things would be so much better with them open and functioning. There's no staff. [/quote]
This. Well said.

I will comply with most things except If they restrict us from seeing family.

So why the PR stunt then.

I'll avoid random gatherings with friends; we'll try to meet outside. But if it gets to Christmas and I'm told I'm not to see my parents, I won't comply with that. We'll all be careful in the run-up to it, we're all double-vaxxed and we'll be careful afterwards.

No. I will lateral flow test as will they and I'm seeing my parents for Christmas dinner.

@PicsInRed sing hallelujah! Well said.
Exactly this.

I understand what you're saying but who is going to pay for the masks? I looked on the Boots website and they have 5 single use FFP2 masks (great for the environment!) for £9.99. I'm certainly not paying that and there's a lot of people that won't be able to afford them.

It must surely be reasonable to provide those with CEV with these on prescription.

I'll comply.
Single mum with two dc and I'm CEV, so for my children's sake I'll comply, tbh we are all still wearing our masks when we go inside anywhere that isn't our home.
My children actual thrived during lockdown, but im a very lucky situation where I don't have to work, so we would spend the mornings concentrating on school work and playing the rest of the time.
BUT...saying all that..I don't judge anyone that doesn't want to follow the rules. To each their own, I would just ask that we all stick to the 2m rule with people we don't know....I still can't go into a shop, people just don't think, which I understand but it really does freak me out.

It's quite clear masks do work but the key is that it needs to be properly fitting (without gaps) and of the right material.

I've no doubt well fitting proper masks help prevent spread... but they won't be effective unless they're worn in situations where Covid is likely to spread.

There's no point in wearing one to go round a half-empty supermarket when you mix freely with colleagues at work, and wear one to walk to the table in your restaurant and only to sit down and take it off to have a meal with 4 friends.

@skybluee

There is so much misinformation on this thread it's worrying.

Someone saying that in their area people are wearing masks yet cases are does not = proof that masks don't work. That is taking probably less than 1% of one country, nothing has measured it really, and it's on someone's say so.

It's quite clear masks do work but the key is that it needs to be properly fitting (without gaps) and of the right material.

IMO the surgical masks aren't much use. You see them gaping at the sides too much. A properly fitting mask that has good filtration does work, you can only look at the study at Addenbrookes to see that.

As for me... I'll do as I have all along - comply with the things that are grounded in scientific reality.

There is no point not going outside if you have zero contact with anyone. Or, for example, it's OK for someone to travel 2 miles but not 4 miles if they have no contact with anyone.

I want this awful pandemic to end and I want cases to be low over the winter - the only way to that, sadly, is to have some restrictions otherwise it is going to absolutely skyrocket. No one wants that. So yes, I won't be going to pubs, restaurants, temporarily. I went over the summer when I could sit outside. There is such a a vast difference between outdoor and indoor transmission. For the worst winter month's I doubt I will see anyone inside which will be very hard. And I will carry on wearing a mask when I go into shops or public places. I want to reduce transmission.

If by the surgical masks, you mean the blue ones, well they're the ones we're wearing in Spain. The kids have been wearing them at school since the first lockdown, everyone wearing them in all indoor spaces and the virus is under control here. I never agreed with wearing them outside, like we had to in Spain for far too long, but indoors they are making a massive difference I say that as a teacher.

I have been wearing masks religiously indoors everywhere, wfh as much as possible, taking lfts, etc etc. I have been doing more than the govt required but I will not respect a ban on household mixing when it will be solely the fault of the government for letting the virus get out of control again.

I will comply. I have vulnerable family members and don't want to put the at risk

@TakeYourFinalPosition

I’d hate it but comply out of moral duty.

Because we can, we can work from home; and although relatives would be annoyed, they’d be fine.

And because we have limited options now. Look at all the posts baying for pubs & restaurants to close instead… economically; we can’t do it. We’re at the edge, as a country. Taxes are already going up. Almost 100% of GDP borrowed.

I know a lot of people would break the rules; and we’d probably swap presents and have a quick chat outside somewhere quiet, if I’m honest… but that would be okay.

It isn’t a how many deaths are okay/black and white situation. It won’t be. It’s an “I could comply, reluctantly, so will for the greater good and the people who can’t” situation.

This, hopefully if our inept government can announce plan B it won't come to it

I'm immunosuppressed but I've had my 3 covid vaccinations and will be having my flu one in about 5 weeks.
My son lives a couple of hundred miles away so I only see him every few months anyway so no, I won't be staying away, I'll be making sure to spend some time with him over the holidays.

* I think this is the comment to end all comments. Wonderful, and thanks for taking the time to post thatsmile*

For you. Sure as heck not for me and he majority on this thread!

@MercyBooth

So why the PR stunt then.

What PR stunt?

Holding a presser to try and stop idiots scattergunning social media with "they're locking us down again, I'm not complying, won't wear a mask, plan X is coming?"

The people trying to spread the fear on social media are just as bad as the non acting govt.

I’ll leave it up to my DM and other elderly relatives to decide what they want to do. If I feel unwell, I’ll test and stay away.

I’ll wear a mask at the supermarket and shops as people HAVE to go food shopping. I won’t mask up at the pub, because it’s personal choice to put yourself at risk.
I’ll continue to use the lateral flows, I do my best not to infect others.

If they tell us to WFH again, I will (although if they close nurseries that’s going to be insanely hard with a 1 yo)

If they close the pubs and restaurants again, of course I’ll comply, because I have to

I already wear a mask in all indoor situations except when consuming food or drink

But if they stop us seeing family, no I won’t comply. We did Christmas last year, we just all properly self isolated for 10 days beforehand (lucky that we all have jobs that allow us to, I know). Dad is CEV so that felt like the best way to do it. On the one hand we didn’t want to take covid to him, on the other, he’s not well and I doesnt have many christmases left, so I wasn’t sacrificing one (of or) my last with him.

I won’t be complying. If the rule makers aren’t complying I certainly won’t they swan off to wherever whenever they like… I’m gonna see my family end of!

The government isn’t even remotely hinting about another lockdown. Not even remotely hinting.

It won’t happen!

But funny to read some of the frothing . Me comforting that massive majority are saying that they wouldn’t comply even if introduced

I'd comply as I'm CEV and so are my parents. But I'd be so angry if we got to that stage because if the government just acted now with simple mitigations it could make a whole lot of difference as it does in other European countries. Why do we have to be the stubborn outlier?

I honestly don't think they will lock down to that extent though. Can't see it happening and can't see the compliance. Masks, social distancing, possibly shutting down big events.

One thing that keeps getting repeated is 'its not our job to save the NHS'. And it's not, but to me that minimises what we've tried to do, which is keep the NHS running so that people can be treated for all illnesses, not just covid. We can see how badly it's been affected and the backlog now, and how so many have suffered, so why are we still couching it in terms of begrudging saving an institution when it's actually about trying to keep a health service running for the people on the ground? I don't get it. I do however think the government should get on with investing in it, but they should have done that 10 years ago and then maybe we wouldn't be in quite such a mess