How many of you will comply?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

No I won't comply...its never going away. Is this the new normal hideaway from now till April May every year? We get out for the summer then back in again. It cannot go on like this.

*Yep, easy to take the moral high ground when you live in a nice house, with a nice garden, family there with you, WFH, baking bread, dressing up for Zoom parties, and watching Netflix.

Funny that all the "stay the fuck at home" vitriol never seemed to come from people living alone.*

This- 100%

Generally from the demographic of people who have been able to buy a house before the prices were absolutely insane and out of reach for many, had a normal university experience, had the chance to meet a life partner, have children, didn't spend the first months of their children's lives unable to have help from family/go to baby groups etc, have been able to work their way up into a job where more likely to work from home- perhaps less of a social life these days due to being settled with a family.

Yes I will. I have two family members going through chemo, I'll do anything to reduce their risks of getting covid. I wear a mask now, dont need our feckless government to tell me.

I struggled last time and I would find it very hard to comply this time because I work in a supermarket, so I can go to work and mingle with hundreds of customers but can't see my nearest and dearest? It seems counter productive in my case. If I were in a position where I could work from home and keep myself and my kids completely isolated, it would make more sense but I'm with people all day, as is my partner. My kids spend weekends with their Dad, who visits care homes as part of his job so staying away from my parents for example (who also provide childcare on an ad hoc basis and my mum also works in a supermarket) seems pointless because between us we easily come into contact with 1000 people a week in our jobs.

[quote beentoldcomputersaysno]@Fetarabbit "The majority don't think the government should have implemented reasonable and effective measures in schools that don't actually affect pupils much- such as creating appropriate airflow rather than ah just crack a window if you can, or siblings of positive cases to isolate which would just be for 10 days if that? It's weird that other countries that have much lower rates have done the above, and without much defiant I'm not doing that. It's ridiculous to not bother with the small measures they help suppress numbers"
Many parents, amongst others have been desperate for some measures. It is a sinister policy to infect loads of kids and tell teachers to suck it up. Do not count me in on that 'majority', wherever that 'poll' came from. Abhorrent. As for not wanting to take small measures to protect the vulnerable, how many more kids will now be counted as vulnerable due to this despicable policy? [/quote]
Yes quite. To be honest I can see everyone's view points, but some comments regarding vulnerable children and their parents are disgusting.

Nope.

There is no way I am keeping my dc from playing with their friends ever again.

I will comply as I have a immune compromised child and a disabled child but we won't be locked away like before,we will go run around deserted forests and play in the middle of nowhere. They need freedom but in safe places and I need fresh air for my sanity.

We have always complied, as an extended family of 15 in 4 households.
We want masks brought back as compulsary, in our family,
to prevent the infections growing in number.
We will be very angry if a lockdown is announced for the festive season because NOW is the time to prevent this.
We are so looking forward to the whole family self catering holiday that we have planned, having missed 3 holidays together so far.
During the festive season, before we go on holiday with the younger generations, I will also make sure my husband and I spend a day with my mum ( in a neighbouring county).
She is nearly 92, in her own home and we just do not know how long we have her for.

This coming Christmas, if only 2 families are allowed to get together, we think we have a way around it. Unless the days to get together are limited.
Eldest daughter's family and youngest daughter's family will bubble as one because our youngest daughter will have a brand new baby.

We ourselves have always been bubbled with our middle daughter as her husband is in the Navy on Submarines,coming home rarely as based in Scotland, so altogether we will be 2 families and we will go on holiday, if the Holiday Company / Owner agree.
If they themselves prevent us from going then we will expect to get our money back.

@HarryLimeFoxtrot

No.

And if anyone tries to make me WFH again, I’ll get myself signed off sick. It’s taken me months to get back to the point where I can just about function normally. I’m not doing it again EVER

So rather than WFH you'll stay at home on sick leave? I don't know your profession but do not understand your rationale!

@Remmy123

I doubt many will comply .. I mean whst is the point of it all if everyone is vaccinated?

I have had both vaccinations and still caught Covid badly, it is not a complete fail safe & we are still unsure of length of it's effects🙄 but I suppose nobody cares any longer until it affects them or one of their relatives!

I wouldn’t comply.

I mean when the first lockdown was there, my life hardly changed. I have a chronic illness and can’t go out much anyway. The job I have is (very) part time and face to face. I still carried on as normal.

So, for me, lockdown or not doesn’t actually makes big difference to my life.

HOWEVER, I will nit comply to the ‘not meeting up inside/mixing of household’. Just like we didn’t do it in the last 20 months. My FIL is terminally ill with cancer. MIL has been struggling and needing physical help. No way we would not see them at the moment. The effect on them, both physically and emotionally, would be too great.

I’ve also seen the effect of the not mixing up/bubbling on a good friend of mine who is single. She stuck to the rules and as a result saw her MH collapsing. Again not good.

Plus tbh, saying that children should go to school, not wear a mask, adults would go to work and would be ok to nit wear a mask ‘if socially distanced’ etc… and then say that those same people can’t meet up in a house?? I mean serioulsy? That’s stupid. The virus isn behaving in different ways in a school or office than in a house.

I think I will comply a little. Like with masks. But I'm supposed to be hosting 15 on Christmas Day. knowing my family some of them are very nervous and cautious so I'm sure some of them won't come if rules change. I think I will go ahead with whoever will still come.

I'm in Scotland so still wearing masks which I don't mind continuing to do. Don't mind trying to keep 2M distance in public places abs have no interest in going to large music/sport events anyway. But I won't comply with not seeing family or staying in the house 23/7.

So rather than WFH you'll stay at home on sick leave?
I don't know your profession but do not understand your rationale!

The 'W' stands for Work... the stress of it can exacerbate many conditions regardless of the environment you are actually working in.

I know many people who really struggled with WFH. It was more like living in work for them.

By the way I'm still wearing a mask on bus and tube and in shops.

I will comply with the government rules. However I will not be teaching my dc again. I will support them with doing the work set but I won't stand over them 1-1 for 3 hours a day each this time. I'm convinced I would have noticed sooner that my then 12 year-old had attempted suicide earlier if I hadn't been stretched so thin.

It would depend on the severity of the Covid situation as to whether I complied and my compliance would be to save lives and protect my nearest and dearest. Not denying it would be utterly shit to go backwards particularly with so many of us now vaccinated but if the science was recommending lockdown, restrictions etc as the best option, I would have to accept that. Home schooling again would send me over the edge though I have to admit!!

@TheSunIsStillShining

These threads make me depressed more than anything...

1. Do ppl realize that it is not an all/in type of scenario? Or it shouldn't have to be at least. There are mitigating measures which are used and proven around the world. But english ppl are exceptional, so obviously won't do any of it.
2. calling for more funding for the NHS... you do realize that it means more tax?

Why are ppl not up in arms about:

1. Gov funneling billions! to friends&family?
2. being willfully negligent re:public health by design. They either don't care or actively want ppl to die.
3. They are enabling/creating the user base for a privatized healthcare system. Both in terms of making waiting lists effing long + all the potential long-covid patients who might need treatments or doctors for many months or their entire life
4. They do all this under the pretense of having executive power "to do right quickly" because of covid. And yet they are not even acting the least bit regarding covid.
5. They are also systematically destroying the educational sector (more so than previously)
6. Should we mention companies who are actually making physical things that they used to sell ...let's say... in the EU?
7. Should we mention that the financial sector - that produces hot air and numbers on papers are the real beneficiaries of this current gov? Oh, and some major India based companies, who by chance happen to be owned by the Chancellor's FIL....

And the narrow minded, petty people of england (not everyone is like that of course, but the majority is) are up in arms about having to wear a fucking mask. They are happy to send their kids into mosh pits called schools unvaccinated instead of insisting on making things better.

I don't want another lockdown either, but what do ppl think will be an option if they actively refuse the small stuff? There will be no other option. Do ppl really need to be told to wear a mask, stay 2m away from others, limit indoor activities if possible? This is common sense!!! Just because you don't use the NHS, or you had covid already doesn't mean that you should not be a responsible person within the society/community you live in.

On one hand I hear the arguments against the nanny state and yet it has been proven many times over that ppl left to their own devices are selfish pricks.

I think this is the comment to end all comments. Wonderful, and thanks for taking the time to post that:)

@outofservice

My 78 year old Aunty committed suicide in April. We hadn’t seen her for 8 months. She lived alone and wouldn’t break the Covid rules. It was devastating. To hear that the Prime Minister broke his own restrictions was such a low blow. Our lives have changed so much, mental illness, family members taking to their own smaller bubbles that we don’t have the get-togethers/large gatherings we used to pre-covid so yes, I imagine we will stick to restrictions, out of new habits rather than choice.

When did boris break the restrictions ???

No I am not complying. Obviously I would consider the affects on immune compromised people and the very elderly, I would keep my distance and wear a mask if they wanted me to do but other than that - the government can get stuffed. I am not living my life because the NHS ‘can’t cope’. It’s not fit for purpose.

He had his MIL and one of Carries friends over last Christmas.

No way, time to get on with life. 🤷

When did boris break the restrictions ???

Had the lady that was his childcare bubble stay for Christmas.

So, did he break the rules, or not? Bubbles were allowed over Christmas.

How can they bring this in, but not enforce things like masks in enclose spaces/on public transport etc? No way should people do this. Boris is making up the rules as he goes along. I thought the Spanish government were shit at the start of the pandemic, but they look reasonably sane compared to the U.K. government.

@Bouledeneige

By the way I'm still wearing a mask on bus and tube and in shops.

If everyone was, like in most other European countries, you wouldn't keep being locked down and the nightmare continuing. I hate wearing masks, but in indoor spaces they do seem to be working. I didn't agree at all when we had to wear them on the street in Spain, but indoors they seem to be keeping the numbers at bay.