How many of you will comply?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

@EffOrf

DS lived on his own so we could have any bubble we wanted to call it

Well, no, not really. You could have had a support bubble. That was it.

People went nuts over bubbles. Nobody seemed to understand that there were rules about who could be in them and what was allowed.

DS was quite fortunate that he had his own flat as it seemed to give him more freedom than some poor bugger that house shared

@EffOrf

DS was quite fortunate that he had his own flat as it seemed to give him more freedom than some poor bugger that house shared

My younger brother flat shares In London

They had a whale of a time! And I was so happy for him

[quote Reallyimeanreally2022]@Fetarabbit

That single mother with the immune compromised child in your example

I wonder what she did before Covid?![/quote]
What, you mean about the illnesses that we have much more knowledge of? Gee I absolutely wonder what people did.

@EffOrf

DS was quite fortunate that he had his own flat as it seemed to give him more freedom than some poor bugger that house shared

Yeah, people in a house share arguing over who was allowed to see their partner/family etc. Only one in the house allowed to form a bubble.

Yes because all illnesses that may impact an seriously immune deficient child - we know everything about and it’s fine. Just fine.

[quote NCBlossom]@Reallyimeanreally2022 that’s a bit dark… we have to have compassion for more than ‘us’ - otherwise we are saying we would live in a society where others are worse off because of what we do and we don’t care.[/quote]
We already do live in a society like that in my opinion.

Yes, I'd comply with mask wearing and similar mitigating measures. I don't think they should have been dropped in the first place. The friend I see most of was my support bubble anyway and I don't have family I'm close to emotionally or geographically.

I feel relieved that I don't have to have close contact with children who might be carrying it through school.

I do have a lot of sympathy now for people who say they won't comply with restrictions meaning they would be separated from their families. That really shouldn't be a measure which should be implemented again.

well it seems my post expressing my worry about my 11 year old son has triggered some discussion.

what did a mother with an immuno compromised child do before covid? Well- he had regular doctor and paediatric appointments. Took (and takes) medication with them everywhere. Had meetings with teachers and school matrons explaining what medication was needed when and what might be needed and what to look out for. Most days before covid you live your life mitigating whatever you could when you could. Then covid happened. And yes we homeschooled when we did. And when our 11 year old child with all the others was allowed to go back to school and mix with their friends they had not seen for a long time we did that through a fixed smile knowing that their socialisiation is important too. And when there are outbreaks of covid in the school we kept them home and got worksheets from the school and explianed to our increasingly frustrated bosses why we had to be at home for a bit. We took annual leave and unpaid leave for - well months. At unpredictable intervals (including today as it happens).

My post just said that I will comply, and I was and remain worried about my child who is immuno compromised. I asked for people to have some consideration. I did not attack people for saying they refuse to comply. But I have been treated with sharpness and discourtesy for asking for people to consider that others like me might have other concerns. My child is not CEV by the way. he is CV. which is why we try and have tried to mitigate as much as we can.

Now having consideration might mean being willing to continue to wear masks. Consideration might mean taking up the jab when offered. Frankly consideration just meant please be aware and sympathetic that some of us are scared every day, and have to think about how we negotiate every day. But- we were scared before covid. We will be scared during and scared afterwards. I genuinely send my child to school each day not knowing if I am going to be called to the hospital because he has had an immune response to something or an anaphylactic response to something. My child goes to school mostly. He's 11 and he is Year 7. He has friends. He should have a life outside of the home. But he does not go to school camps because his school do not feel comfortable being responsible (understandably so). So I have a child sobbing his heart out because he cannot do what his friends do. He cannot go to parties without me. He can't go to sleepovers. We war between trying to keep his life as normal as possible and protecting him.

I asked for some consideration. I would be really pleased if mask wearing was made mandatory again. That would be great. Although I understand some people consider it is a total affront to their human rights. I would be pleased if social distancing came back. I would like sensible mitigation that does not destroy the ecomomy, but yet aims to acknowledge and identify that some people are vulnerable and others can do just a little bit to help.

But most of all I would really like for my expressed concern on an anonymous forum to not be attacked by some people who luckily for them genuinely have no clue what it is like to have a vulnerable child. I expressed my concern respectfully. I'd like to be responded to with respect also.

Nobody seemed to understand that there were rules about who could be in them and what was allowed.

More likely that people didn't actually give two hoots about bubbles and what was and wasn't "allowed " they made their own judgements for their own family circumstances as it should be

@Reallyimeanreally2022

Yes because all illnesses that may impact an seriously immune deficient child - we know everything about and it’s fine. Just fine.

Not at all, but we know more about them, how to manage them, the risks in regard to certain conditions, how to lower the risk- different to a novel virus that we know more about than we did, but still have a lot to learn. Your attitude is vile anyway so not sure why I'm bothering to engage.

Thankfully, I’m not alone
In fact the majority

Yes I always follow the rules and I don't care how much of a 'sheep' I am. I will also have the booster when it becomes available to me. I believe they aren't making up rules and regulations just for the fun of it. But it does have to be said that I'm a full time carer for my disabled husband and disabled son along with my daughter and I'm
Very anti social, I loved the lockdowns and people keeping their distance. I can barely hug my family nevermind my friends, I'm more of a pat on the back there there type of girl.

Yes, I would comply. I’m still social distancing and wearing a mask too. It seems as though clinically vulnerable people are just being expected to stay at home so the rest of us can carry on as normal and it seems incredibly ageist, ableist and selfish to me. If it was people putting themselves at risk then fine but when it’s risking other people’s lives I find it baffling that people aren’t willing to be in the slightest bit inconvenienced to protect others

I now don’t think it’s purely covid that could overwhelm the NHS, having watched Ambulance and from personal experience the NHS has been vastly underfunded and run down over many years, I have real fears it’s being dismantled under our eyes and cannot recover . I honestly expect Boris to announce that to clear the backlog of patients waiting for operations they will be diverted to private hospitals and that will be it , the NHS as we now it will collapse.

It doesn't really matter what I plan to do. The nearest family member lives an hour away so if the travel outside the local area or indoor visits won't be allowed, we won't be able to go. We can't afford fines and my family lives in a block of flats where people seems to be stitching on each other all the time so its no way we wouldn't be reported.
If it's going to be just a guidance then we can think about it, I suppose.

Yes I would follow the restrictions. I don’t want to catch it, or pass it to anyone else. I can work from home; I’d never forgive myself if I passed it on to my elderly parents or anyone for that matter.

I don’t want that on my conscience thanks. Nor do I want to get I’ll myself. I think we should still have mandatory mask-wearing & social distancing personally but hey, it’s only a virus right!?

The fact that we’ve been so lax with restrictions doesn’t help us as we career into winter with an overstretched NHS (again.) Its so typically disappointing and irresponsible of this Govt. to abandon us to a song & a prayer when we should all be very wary still.

I think this winter is going to be a fucking nightmare; because, you know, mah vaccinations & mah rights.

Also, whilst I’m up here in my high horse I also think vaccine passports are absolutely the right, responsible thing to do. But as per usual, the Govt. have backed down n the face of the freedom crowd FFS .

I want to be sure the people I choose to mingle with have had their vaccinations thanks. But common sense will not prevail in this country. It’s a joke

switching not stitching 😒

Og I give up

We missed our last Christmas with MIL. She was diagnosed with cancer just after Christmas and died in March.
I think DH will definitely want to be with his dad this year, regardless of the rules. My oldest relative is very cautious and has barely left the house since last March. They would definitely comply with any government guidelines.
It might depend on whether any of us had recently had it as well.

Nope

@Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme

Yes, I would comply. I’m still social distancing and wearing a mask too. It seems as though clinically vulnerable people are just being expected to stay at home so the rest of us can carry on as normal and it seems incredibly ageist, ableist and selfish to me. If it was people putting themselves at risk then fine but when it’s risking other people’s lives I find it baffling that people aren’t willing to be in the slightest bit inconvenienced to protect others

There has to be balance though. Tell someone socially isolated that they have to remain alone to "protect" someone they have never met.. how is that fair or acceptable? The vast majority of the replies on this thread about non-compliance is about being told you are not allowed to see your own family/friends. That is far from a mere inconvenience.

@Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme

Yes, I would comply. I’m still social distancing and wearing a mask too. It seems as though clinically vulnerable people are just being expected to stay at home so the rest of us can carry on as normal and it seems incredibly ageist, ableist and selfish to me. If it was people putting themselves at risk then fine but when it’s risking other people’s lives I find it baffling that people aren’t willing to be in the slightest bit inconvenienced to protect others

Depends what you class as the "slightest inconvenience." Masks yes, they're a small inconvenience. Forbidden from seeing family and ordered to stay in our homes, they are major inconveniences for me that I'm not willing to do.

when it’s risking other people’s lives I find it baffling that people aren’t willing to be in the slightest bit inconvenienced to protect others

It isn't just the 'slightest bit inconvenienced' to have your entire life upended and your mental health destroyed because of it.

Social distancing meaning your business goes down the drain.

Being unable to work in the office and struggling horribly to get to grips with a new job because of it.

Women on here in their 30s posting that they are worried they will miss out on having children because lockdowns have stopped them from being able to get out and try to meet people.

Being unable to see friends and family and mental health deteriorating rapidly because of it.

Children's needs being neglected for a virus they are at very low risk for.

That is just a few things off the top of my head. Stop trying to minimise the impact. I agree- wearing masks and allowing for a bit more space in shops or whatever doesn't cause any real inconvenience to the vast majority of people- but anything beyond that causes real harm.

The vast vast majority of people in hospital are the very elderly, who we have double jabbed and offered boosters to. I'm sorry but I don't know how much more we can reasonably do beyond that. It's exactly what we do with flu- vaccinate the vulnerable but it still doesn't mean that nobody dies of it.

@Owl55

I now don’t think it’s purely covid that could overwhelm the NHS, having watched Ambulance and from personal experience the NHS has been vastly underfunded and run down over many years, I have real fears it’s being dismantled under our eyes and cannot recover . I honestly expect Boris to announce that to clear the backlog of patients waiting for operations they will be diverted to private hospitals and that will be it , the NHS as we now it will collapse.

The Financial Times reported many months ago that private hospitals had stepped in to help the NHS clear the backlog.

I want to be sure the people I choose to mingle with have had their vaccinations thanks. But common sense will not prevail in this country. It’s a joke

Do you normally ask people for their vaccine status, just in case they haven't had the MMR or whooping cough vaccine?

It amazes me that since covid people seem to think they have the right to know other peoples' medical history. Work wanted us to put our vaccination status on the online HR system, I was not happy about that and thankfully it was decided we don't have to in Europe. My vaccination status has nothing to do with my job and they've never been interested if I've had other vaccines!