Press conference at 5 with Boris

[Sadless]

Just heard theres going to be a press conference at 5 what's he going to say now.

Sal

@PurpleDaisies

"Boris" is a brand and I agree with the PP. Call him Prime Minister. The more you do it the more outrageous it is that he is the prime minister and hopefully the more people that realise it the less likely he is to be our PM another 4 years.

I don’t think calling him the prime minister makes any difference to my opinion of him. It could not get any lower.

I call him BloJob.

I have to call him Boris because calling him The Prime Minister is too ludicrous. I never understood why they stopped mask wearing in the first place but you know, Boris.

[quote toolazytothinkofausername]@HarrietsChariot I also really enjoyed the previous lockdowns, but my heart sinks for all those that mentally suffered because of them, and those who took their own lives :([/quote]
And those financially ruined and with no financial support at all. I'm sure lockdowns were all sunshine, baking and bike rides for them.

I'm not a Tory but I had some respect for Theresa May and David Cameron.

Fraid I have zero for Boris. He's not even respected amongst his own civil servants !

Absolutely fuck all except muttering and repeating what's already in the news.

People that want restrictions, will comply.
People that don't, won't.

Nothing will change no matter what Javid/Johnson might say.

Why MN posters even bother trying to guess, is beyond me.
Just reading many of the other threads on this board, there is no consensus over anything.

In real life however, people are less concerned with Covid and more concerned about their own circumstances such as jobs, money to pay their utilities and the many other things that rule their lives.

PicsInRed Yes, also awful for those who lost their businesses I know so many people who lost their jobs which they loved

It wasn't the sunshine, baking and bike rides. I have Autism and for all my life for one reason or another I've had to interact with other humans but then lockdown happened and I no longer had that awkward obligation.

Here we go again.

If wearing a mask makes you feel safer - wear it. If having the jab makes you feels safer - have it. Make your own health choices and let others make their own. If going out when others aren’t masked frightens you, don’t go out.

You know what your individual risk is and those of your family. Use your common sense. Before Covid, did we see those undergoing immunotherapy such as chemo demanding that that the whole world accommodated their needs? Patients like this were advised and aware exposure to even a common cold could be life threatening, so they made their own choices.

How about we all take responsibility for our selves rather than fussing endlessly about what others are and aren’t doing?

PicsInRed I meant jobs they loved, I did not mean they loved losing their jobs.

@Alonghairinapie

I wish people face a fuck. Some of us NHS staff are totally burnt out and a little pin badge saying thank you does fuck all thank you.

Me too. I'm not clinical anymore and never will be again because of this. Wish people on this thread would at an absolute bare minimum go over the the HCP thread and read what the experiences for us are actually still like (News Flash: It never changed for us at work!! It's still critical and shit!!)

Javid has tweeted about the article he wrote in the Sun today urging people to get boosters.

No mention of teenagers in this article who cannot book .
When they the highest infected age group and once again education disrupted.
He also needs to apologise to all of the south west for the pcr fiasco that led to massive explosion in cases due to dodgy company and contracts.

Will it be whitty next slide please?
Jenny pathological liar Harris
JVT the booster and kids jabs are like a train coming into the station.
Don't tear the pants off it wear a mask.
Sombre and pissed off valence..

Like others said anything serious be later.
Whats the bet todays figures be delayed.
They already said across various news channel today is not the time to launch plan b.

@2389Champ

Here we go again.

If wearing a mask makes you feel safer - wear it. If having the jab makes you feels safer - have it. Make your own health choices and let others make their own. If going out when others aren’t masked frightens you, don’t go out.

You know what your individual risk is and those of your family. Use your common sense. Before Covid, did we see those undergoing immunotherapy such as chemo demanding that that the whole world accommodated their needs? Patients like this were advised and aware exposure to even a common cold could be life threatening, so they made their own choices.

How about we all take responsibility for our selves rather than fussing endlessly about what others are and aren’t doing?

Do you think that what you wrote is a first class definition of selfishness?

The point of being jabbed or wearing a mask is twofold- to protect you but also others. Like all vaccines.

@2389Champ

Here we go again.

If wearing a mask makes you feel safer - wear it. If having the jab makes you feels safer - have it. Make your own health choices and let others make their own. If going out when others aren’t masked frightens you, don’t go out.

You know what your individual risk is and those of your family. Use your common sense. Before Covid, did we see those undergoing immunotherapy such as chemo demanding that that the whole world accommodated their needs? Patients like this were advised and aware exposure to even a common cold could be life threatening, so they made their own choices.

How about we all take responsibility for our selves rather than fussing endlessly about what others are and aren’t doing?

Here we go again.

It is a COMMUNITY problem and if you aren't doing your bit YOU are part of the problem mate, whether or not there happens to be a law in place spelling it out to you like a small child.

(Unless of course you have a pathology that means you can't wear a mask etc)

@JinglingHellsBells

The NHS is always in crisis - especially in the winter. Even without Covid, there would be the same old debate.

Some serious reviews of how funds are allocated and spent within the organisation would have far more direct benefit than dipping in and out of lockdowns which impact and send a far greater range of ripples across the wider economy.

The NHS will never collapse - no government would ever allow it as it would be political suicide and make that administration forever unelectable. Lockdowns were never about safeguarding individuals and preventing the spread of the virus, they were always about protecting the ‘sacred cow‘ but somehow we’ve all been cleverly convinced that it was all about their concern for you.

Bear in mind too that government will always back up its policies with experts that are singing from the same hymn sheet - until it no longer suits them - which we are seeing now. What ever happened to ‘following the science’? This proves to me just how fickle our politicians are and yet there are individuals still out there who are still convinced that the advice they spew is for our own good. Just use your own common sense. If you feel you’re at risk, don’t mix in crowds, wear a mask, practise good hygiene etc. You don’t need someone else to tell you this but then, we seem to have become a species that needs our hands constantly held by the authorities.

[quote Iwannabelikeyouohh]@TheFairyCaravan

What should we call him..? 🤷🏻‍♀️[/quote]
Boris Johnson (or Alexander Johnson, if you're feeling petty!)

The NHS is always in crisis - especially in the winter. Even without Covid, there would be the same old debate.

No, this is worse and different. You don't need to know very much about the situation, or read very much about it, for that to be substantiated

funds there aren't enough to start with for what people expect the NHS to be doing, quite apart from covid. Re-organisations generally just cost more time and energy; they can't of themselves solve the underlying issue of lack of resource.

@User135644

"Get back to the office"

Unless you can work from Ibiza

This is not the same as the usual NHS winter crisis, we have no staff, even trysts that weren’t inundated had to redeploy staff and we faced endless issues, new roles, staff breakdowns. I’m off at the minute as I was so ill I though I was having some kind of breakdown.

@herecomesthsun

The NHS is always in crisis - especially in the winter. Even without Covid, there would be the same old debate.

No, this is worse and different. You don't need to know very much about the situation, or read very much about it, for that to be substantiated

funds there aren't enough to start with for what people expect the NHS to be doing, quite apart from covid. Re-organisations generally just cost more time and energy; they can't of themselves solve the underlying issue of lack of resource.

But this still doesn't address why we, the population, should continually have to have our lives restricted in order to "protect the NHS". We do our bit - we pay our taxes - and the people we as a country vote into government should bloody well do the job we have entrusted them to do and run it properly. Being called selfish and stupid for wanting life to go on, despite the creaking behemoth threatening to collapse every winter, just doesn't wash I'm afraid.

Governments need to be straight with the population. The NHS is not fit for the purpose people have been led to expect. It cannot in its current form meet their needs. They must either pay up, or it needs replacing with something that works better.

@herecomesthsun

The NHS is always in crisis - especially in the winter. Even without Covid, there would be the same old debate.

No, this is worse and different. You don't need to know very much about the situation, or read very much about it, for that to be substantiated

funds there aren't enough to start with for what people expect the NHS to be doing, quite apart from covid. Re-organisations generally just cost more time and energy; they can't of themselves solve the underlying issue of lack of resource.

At grass roots level, I have a couple of friends who are a radiographer and a physio. They are contracted for part time - 3 days a week - but volunteer every week for overtime (effectively full time) because they are paid far more this way. If this is going on all over the NHS, no wonder it’s haemorrhaging money. Their contracts need to be looked at closely because a private business would soon go under with this sort of piss taking going on.

The NHS can collapse, letting 15+ ambulances queue all night us near collapse, running teams with bare bones staff is unsafe and near collapse.

@HesterShaw1

Exactly.

@Alonghairinapie

The NHS can collapse, letting 15+ ambulances queue all night us near collapse, running teams with bare bones staff is unsafe and near collapse.

And this has been happening for years and years and years.

Yes pay up is the simple answer. We have HCS’s in a fucking band 2 wage that are run ragged and we cannot keep them.

@2389Champ
It's not piss taking if they are providing an essential service, is it now?

They are probably paid far less than they would be if they worked for private healthcare.