Is it just me or is this board getting a bit quieter?

[bumbleymummy]

That’s a good sign, right? :)

I think that there are some circumstances over the winter in which people might change their minds again (but I am hoping that we can get through this without more drastic restrictions).

I think going with Plan A and Plan B was clever actually (because obviously they don't know exactly what is going to happen and contingency planning is important)

People really attribute way too much power to little bits of cloth.

I think it's a testimony to how much the need is psychological. People want to feel like something is being done. The bits of cloth work in that regard as they're very visible.

Otherwise, why not just shift focus to the medical grade ones for those who want them as they seem to demonstrably offer some protection?

Well Germany did, and it seems fairly sensible. Mind you, they have or had a scientist in charge.

Yes but for people who want the protection.

Tbh there’s nothing stopping people anyway so I’m not sure why they don’t

some of us do

That’s great. So leave it to people to do that

No more pressure

I think we should have some advice - not mandates - but more advice to help us through the winter with this.

Because it does affect other people (like recycling, maybe)

There is advice isn’t there?

On the bus we get messages, and some shops and venues

I think people know but still just want to decide.

@TheKeatingFive

People really attribute way too much power to little bits of cloth.

I think it's a testimony to how much the need is psychological. People want to feel like something is being done. The bits of cloth work in that regard as they're very visible.

Otherwise, why not just shift focus to the medical grade ones for those who want them as they seem to demonstrably offer some protection?

It's a bit like all the sanitiser theatre. I still do Zoom interviews for work, and after every candidate, someone comes in to wipe down the door handles and desk. Could understand it 15 months ago but now it seems so silly. All for show.

Tealightsandd

It must be exhausting holding the fort on here single handedly. I salute you

Oh sorry, the sunny one is here too, I commented but I'd only reached page 8 or some such when I did. As you were

I don’t post on here any more because I can’t be bothered argue with the same people who won’t take anything anyone else says on board. It’s literally a waste of my energy.

Also, the rudeness and aggression from some posters was too much for me.

@herecomesthsun they aren't considering a fire breaker?

It was falsely reported and denied a while back if that's what you mean?

It seems that this board is getting a bit quieter except for when you start a thread stating that and then it's very much in Active again as everyone gets told off for even thinking it.

@Florelei it does get a bit much, I agree. I also hope that the studies pointing out organ damage and negative impacts of repeated infections etc aren't too longterm, but who knows? We have asked alot of kids in this pandemic and not providing them with any protection now (as they don't die that frequently) is pretty poor.

Ah the old mask argument. Have a look at this graph. Scotland which still enforces masks in secondary school, shops and restaurants suffered a massive return to school spike not seen in other parts of the U.K. Where was the preventative effective of mask wearing?

Ah the old Scottish argument.

Too many other variables; only a 20-25% effect.

and so on

[quote weddingweird]@herecomesthsun they aren't considering a fire breaker?

It was falsely reported and denied a while back if that's what you mean?[/quote]
@MercyBooth linked to some thread on twitter about a firebreaker & I responded to that and other people's comments.

I don't know if they are seriously thinking about a firebreaker, I hope not.

Yes the same old arguments against mitigaitons do get wearisome.

But it’s where we are? So the same themes will come up as majority view

FYI the nice Patrick Vallance has a long interview on R4 right now. I’m enjoying his take, esp how science informs complex political decisions

@Sparklingbrook

It seems that this board is getting a bit quieter except for when you start a thread stating that and then it's very much in Active again as everyone gets told off for even thinking it.

Haha

Is it the majority view? I will stick with the scientific consensus.

Interesting that the Germans are adopting a scientific approach - is it just the influence of their lead politicians or a difference in the public perception of science.

Yes here it is. You might find different themes emerging on a German site if too wearisome here

No, that was in response to PPs