Page 17 | Are people no longer bothered by Covid….?

Thisisconfusing · 01/10/2021 13:17

The problem is our cases are still pretty high for it to be normal - almost 1000 people are dying a week from it and I think 1000 kids a month are currently being hospitalised not that the BBC ever mentions that ! . I believe 8 children died in sept in the U.K. ONS data indicates the chances of kids getting long Covid is 7-14% depending on age. I have seen the damage done by Long Covid - a previously fit 17yo should be able to go up the stairs without getting out of breath . However it’s seems the vast majority believe that Covid is over and has now become an unstoppable train. Personally I would be very happy to wear a mask if it stopped even one family from being bereaved . It’s not that hard.

Treetops09 · 01/10/2021 13:44

I’m happy to wear a mask when I go into shops etc. I agree with if not now when regarding opening up hospitality and schools. I will be more cautious though if I have a holiday or big event coming up. Had a weekend away 2 weeks ago and sadly my DH caught covid and had to miss a cycling holiday in France he’s been looking forward to all year.

Tupla · 01/10/2021 15:27

@TheGrumpyGoat and all the others in your position, Yes, covid has caused so much damage in so many ways, and what you and your family have been through must have been incredibly difficult. It's still unfortunately a case of having to weigh up harms and benefits, and making informed choices, as you are doing. The trouble is I don't think people are always able to make informed choices because unless they're following it all closely, they don't realise that the current guidance is still to wear masks, meet outside, etc., and don't know that vaccinated people can still transmit it. They are making uninformed choices.

I don't know if it's even a choice given a lot of thought. Many people might just be doing what other people are doing. If you walk into a room and nobody is wearing a mask it feels like you are making a statement by putting one on! You don't want to look like you're anxious, judgemental or virtue signalling.

CarlaH · 01/10/2021 15:44

[quote Warhertisuff]@AlixandraTheGreat

All of it?

So rather than engage, you just dismiss without reason....

I have to assume then you can't answer the question "if not now, when?".... without the answer:
a) assuming Covid will disappear at some point;
b) recognising that restrictions will be long term and last for many years;

If you can't answer this, then your position is simply not credible.[/quote]
In answer to the question if not now, when I would say when I think I won't have to wait hours for an ambulance or when A&E is not overwhelmed to the extent that I might be there for bloody ages.

In other words when I feel that healthcare if I need it is going to be easier to get than it is at the moment.

Stuffin · 01/10/2021 15:46

The trouble is I don't think people are always able to make informed choices because unless they're following it all closely, they don't realise that the current guidance is still to wear masks, meet outside, etc., and don't know that vaccinated people can still transmit it. They are making uninformed choices.

I don't think this is actually true. I think it is more that they (and I include myself) don't want to wear a mask and are perfectly happy with meeting indoors and socialising.

blueskytoday06 · 01/10/2021 16:08

Nope I'm not bothered. Double jabbed. I want to forget.

Overthebow · 01/10/2021 16:47

@Stuffin

The trouble is I don't think people are always able to make informed choices because unless they're following it all closely, they don't realise that the current guidance is still to wear masks, meet outside, etc., and don't know that vaccinated people can still transmit it. They are making uninformed choices.

I don't think this is actually true. I think it is more that they (and I include myself) don't want to wear a mask and are perfectly happy with meeting indoors and socialising.

Yes exactly. I know that the virus can still be transmitted, and I know what the guidance is. I also know that’s it’s just that, guidance, not mandatory. It’s s choice and people shouldn’t be made to feel guilty about not wearing a mask. Im happy to socialise indoors, take part in activities and go shopping without wearing a mask, so are many others, and it’s a free choice not to.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 01/10/2021 17:19

[quote Tupla]@TheGrumpyGoat and all the others in your position, Yes, covid has caused so much damage in so many ways, and what you and your family have been through must have been incredibly difficult. It's still unfortunately a case of having to weigh up harms and benefits, and making informed choices, as you are doing. The trouble is I don't think people are always able to make informed choices because unless they're following it all closely, they don't realise that the current guidance is still to wear masks, meet outside, etc., and don't know that vaccinated people can still transmit it. They are making uninformed choices.

I don't know if it's even a choice given a lot of thought. Many people might just be doing what other people are doing. If you walk into a room and nobody is wearing a mask it feels like you are making a statement by putting one on! You don't want to look like you're anxious, judgemental or virtue signalling.[/quote]
I know the guidance. I just don't care. I've had Covid and would rather have it again than continue to live masked and distanced.

TickyTacky · 01/10/2021 17:25

I was a bit more laid back and visiting more outdoor venues as I knew school bubbles would end and I wanted to make the most of summer. A week after term started my children brought home covid, despite my double vaccinations I ended up with covid pneumonia. Had a hospital stay due to low o2 and a double infection. Never felt so ill in my life. I did have to shield so more vulnerable than most. However I do wonder how those who aren't practising any precautions would feel if they'd caught it. It's atrocious and I'm still scared.

CatNoBag · 01/10/2021 17:30

I still wear mine and tend to avoid crowded, enclosed spaces as much as I possibly can - despite both being double jabbed, DH would probably be quite ill if he got Covid due to a health condition, don't really want to risk finding out!

BabyElephant2 · 01/10/2021 17:31

In short, no. Never was. I work in emergency healthcare and something just didn’t add up.. so no, I won’t be bothered by my mask outside of the hours I’m paid to be

trumpisagit · 01/10/2021 17:32

@Thisisconfusing
Where does this piece of info come from?
"I believe 8 children died in sept in the U.K.."
I assume you mean OF covid.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 01/10/2021 17:38

Just back from Spain and I was shocked at how strict it is there. Even large outside-ish gatherings (think outdoor theatre) there were wardens not only to check mask earring but to make sure it. I’ve red nose snd mouth.
I thought it was all a bit ott until I get back to find my friend in ICU with Covid - she’s had both jabs and is 46.
I’ve put my mask back on now.

salsamummy · 01/10/2021 17:39

I have stopped wearing a mask but am not close to people. I just lost a colleague to the vaccine and a client lost her friend 47. I think you just have to live your life.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 01/10/2021 17:53

@TickyTacky

I was a bit more laid back and visiting more outdoor venues as I knew school bubbles would end and I wanted to make the most of summer. A week after term started my children brought home covid, despite my double vaccinations I ended up with covid pneumonia. Had a hospital stay due to low o2 and a double infection. Never felt so ill in my life. I did have to shield so more vulnerable than most. However I do wonder how those who aren't practising any precautions would feel if they'd caught it. It's atrocious and I'm still scared.

I did catch it before I had both vaccinations and it was nothing worse than a cold for me. If you were shielding it's not surprising that you had it worse. My experience with Covid is more likely than yours for the majority of people.

altiara · 01/10/2021 17:54

How can we go from distancing, mask wearing, avoiding people on walks (which is exactly what it was like) to nothing….

Not really “to nothing” with the massive vaccine rollout! Plus you can still wear masks and social distance from others if you choose to.

caspersmagicaljourney · 01/10/2021 17:56

@SalsaLove

Lots of people where I live are still wearing masks especially in shops.

Same around here probably because our local infection rate is a lot higher than the average. I was unlucky enough to get covid whilst being double-jabbed 🙄so I'm remaining cautious anyway.

starlight13 · 01/10/2021 17:56

When will people realise that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU from catching covid and YOU CAN STILL PASS IT ON.

WearsideBridge · 01/10/2021 17:56

@Thisisconfusing - we have over 1500 children ill with COVID at the minute in the locality.

ComtesseDeSpair · 01/10/2021 18:07

@starlight13

When will people realise that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU from catching covid and YOU CAN STILL PASS IT ON.

I think people do realise. They’re just not bothered anymore about catching Covid and have long since given up caring for the most part about whether they pass it on.

Overthebow · 01/10/2021 18:11

@starlight13

When will people realise that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU from catching covid and YOU CAN STILL PASS IT ON.

Most people do know this, just realise that now vaccines are rolled out there’s nothing more that can be done so we are all getting on with life now.

OneLifeThreeGuvnors · 01/10/2021 18:15

I care. I am pregnant after three miscarriages, and the risk of Covid to pregnant women and their unborn children is higher to the general population. I am wearing a mask in shops and any enclosed spaces. I know many (non-pregnant) people doing this too, though - I don't think you are alone. Long Covid is frightening. Even with vaccinations, I'm pretty sure figures will rise as winter sets in. You're not being unreasonable to social distance and use a mask - stick to your guns.

lljkk · 01/10/2021 18:15

[quote WearsideBridge]@Thisisconfusing - we have over 1500 children ill with COVID at the minute in the locality. [/quote]
I was confused by that specificity but I gather (from advanced stalking) that WearsideBridge is part of senior school Leadership, so if in a densely populated area would see wider prevalance figures.

I wonder if it means testing positive, but we know that up to 50% of covid cases are without symptoms/ barely symptomatic. So "ill" may not be correct word.

Stuffin · 01/10/2021 18:16

@starlight13

When will people realise that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU from catching covid and YOU CAN STILL PASS IT ON.

We do know that but don't want to live a life behind a mask or socially distance from other human beings.

If you do then go ahead but stop trying to force that on the rest of us.

Life is for living not existing and there are far more things to be worried about health wise than covid.

SMBH · 01/10/2021 18:22

When will people realise that despite HAVING THE SAME INFORMATION AS YOU ABOUT COVID, other people have different circumstances and WILL MAKE DIFFERENT CHOICES