Shielding program stopped

[Egghead68]

For anyone this affects, the shielding program was stopped for good yesterday.

They snuck this news out under the cover of the cabinet reshuffle.

Oh blimey Bizawit
Certainly wasn’t expecting that. You’ve floored me, a bit.
Thank you.

I can't imagine my husband coming onto a thread and using his experience of living with me to denigrate sick people.

He just wouldn't do it.

Because it is not a good thing to do.

Life with a sick person is stressful, but - speaking as a sick person - I don't feel you earned those flowers with that little speech.

How dare you, MilesJuppIsMyBitch.

In no way, shape or form do I denigrate my husband. He is bolder and more positive in respect of Covid than I am.

Just go away. You are seriously nasty.

No. You are denigrating the rest of us on this thread.

You are venting at sick people.

I would very much like you to go away, but I don't think you will.

Just listen to yourself. You ought to be ashamed.

See, I'm breaking my resolve from upthread.

Never mind.

I'll let you all know what the PCT say. Night all! Don't let the bastards grind you down.

So, CEV people who choose to be positive are bastards.

You’re just lovely, aren’t you.

I agree with earlier suggestions. Let's just ignore the derailers. Not easy, I know, because of the unpleasant sentiment but it would be a real shame to lose this thread - something that could be an invaluable source of support.

You are quite right, Tealights.

Goodnight @MilesJuppIsMyBitch

So, CEV people who hold a different opinion are “derailers”? Echo chamber.

@MrsSkylerWhite

So, CEV people who hold a different opinion are “derailers”? Echo chamber.

You're not CEV, give it a rest!

I think every CEV person has the right to feel how they feel and we should all respect that
Some are going to be more wary than others. Everyone will have different views
I would like people to still distance from me and respect I'm wearing a mask, and people say "oh well it's your choice to distance" but when someone leans over you.. it's already done. You can tell them to back off but they're impacting my choices
If that makes sense

No, my husband is. I didn’t leave the house either. Neither did our now 18 year old son.

My husband’s views about opening up are stronger than my own, he’s had enough. He is also a science graduate and has faith in vaccinations.

He loves his children and grandchild, has hopes for their futures and would be heartbroken if they limited their lives for him.

But this thread isn't for you or your husband, it's for people with like minded concerns, not contrary arguments

NotMyCat

I think every CEV person has the right to feel how they feel and we should all respect that
Some are going to be more wary than others. Everyone will have different views
I would like people to still distance from me and respect I'm wearing a mask, and people say "oh well it's your choice to distance" but when someone leans over you.. it's already done. You can tell them to back off but they're impacting my choices
If that makes sense“

Perfect sense. We don’t socialise, we wear masks in public places and maintain good hygiene. Because that’s what our personal circumstances dictate.

What we don’t do is expect the rest of the world to stop functioning because one of us drew the short straw. That’s life. He was extremely vulnerable to any infection before Covid, will still be if it ever goes away. No-one’s fault or responsibility. Just life.
We mitigate accordingly, as should everyone.

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch

I can't imagine my husband coming onto a thread and using his experience of living with me to denigrate sick people.

He just wouldn't do it.

Because it is not a good thing to do.

Life with a sick person is stressful, but - speaking as a sick person - I don't feel you earned those flowers with that little speech.

Agree. Again it's undermining cev people on this thread who have come on here for support, to share their valid concerns. No cev person on this thread has talked about lockdowns or denying other people their freedom. Mrs Skyler 's hubby' s experience and opinion as a cev person does not reflect every cev person's experience/opinion. I'm on here for support, as a cev person who is anxious, as my health conditions mean I'm more vulnerable to covid. I have two young primary age children.I enjoy my job that I cannot do from home and I need to work to support my family. But I do not want to leave my children without a parent! (I lost my own parents young so I know the impact this has on a child's mental wellbeing). I don't wish to change my job and why should I. Not all people who are classed as cev had to avoid general cold/flu viruses before the pandemic (I've seen this misconception crop up quite a few times on mumsnet). I have built up a degree of immunity to cold /flu. over the years. However, swine flu, a new virus, lead to me having pneumonia for three months. And Covid is another new/novel virus with unpredictable effects on our immune systems. So, no, I wouldn't have had to shield and give up my job under normal circumstances. It is specifically covid that has put me and my family in a difficult situation. We have endured lockdowns, home schooling and all the limitations that the pandemic had brought, just like everyone else. I can understand that people have suffered for many different reasons due to the pandemic. Their experiences might be different from my own but I would not dream of undermining their feelings and imply that their feelings and experiences don't count!!!! I think it utterly callous to undermine and derail a thread set up for people who need support. As previous posters have said, many threads just end up with people pushing their own agenda without any empathy for another person's situation. I think mumsnet needs an overhaul and a code of conduct set up ie. Be nice to one another - simple! Many Facebook groups have this in place and any unkindness is booted off straight away. If mumsnet claims to be support forum for parents, it really does need to be a safe, supportive place, where people can share their experiences without fear of being criticised and undermined. This pandemic and mumsnet in particular has made me lose faith in human nature quite frankly. Perhaps I should have been cynical from the start.

@marieantoinehairnet

But this thread isn't for you or your husband, it's for people with like minded concerns, not contrary arguments

Well said.

No. Just no. You don’t get to disregard the views of my CEV husband because his views don’t accord with your own.

The world must go on. The minority can’t expect the majority to put their lives on hold, to their detriment, ad infinitum. Do people on here really believe that’s reasonable?

Our children’s futures are, to us, more important than our own.
If we had no children of our own, we would still believe that the well-being of the next generation took precedence over that of our own.

That feeling is clearly not going to strike a chord on this thread though, so will bow out.

Best to you all.

@MrsSkylerWhite

No. Just no. You don’t get to disregard the views of my CEV husband because his views don’t accord with your own.

The world must go on. The minority can’t expect the majority to put their lives on hold, to their detriment, ad infinitum. Do people on here really believe that’s reasonable?

Our children’s futures are, to us, more important than our own.
If we had no children of our own, we would still believe that the well-being of the next generation took precedence over that of our own.

That feeling is clearly not going to strike a chord on this thread though, so will bow out.

Best to you all.

I'm thinking of my children's future!!!! I don't want them to lose a parent when they are still so young - that would have a huge impact on their future.I'm not saying people should restrict their lives. If you can't understand or respect another's experience then yes please - just leave this thread.

That feeling is clearly not going to strike a chord on this thread though, so will bow out

It's struck the wrong note.

This was intended to be a support thread for those who cannot make the same choices as you.

None of us - read that again - none of us are asking anyone to put their lives on hold.

@MrsSkylerWhite

No. Just no. You don’t get to disregard the views of my CEV husband because his views don’t accord with your own.

The world must go on. The minority can’t expect the majority to put their lives on hold, to their detriment, ad infinitum. Do people on here really believe that’s reasonable?

Our children’s futures are, to us, more important than our own.
If we had no children of our own, we would still believe that the well-being of the next generation took precedence over that of our own.

That feeling is clearly not going to strike a chord on this thread though, so will bow out.

Best to you all.

You can tantrum all you like, it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong to come on here and try to tell emotionally vulnerable people they have it all wrong!

@MrsSkylerWhite 'You don’t get to disregard the views of my CEV husband because his views don’t accord with your own.'
And you don't get to disregard the views of the cev people on this thread. A cev person's viewpoint whose family is grown up differs greatly from a cev person who needs to provide for her family and be alive for them too. Your rhetoric without empathy just epitomises mumsnet!

Izzypuss

@MrsSkylerWhite 'You don’t get to disregard the views of my CEV husband because his views don’t accord with your own.'
And you don't get to disregard the views of the cev people on this thread. A cev person's viewpoint whose family is grown up differs greatly from a cev person who needs to provide for her family and be alive for them too. Your rhetoric without empathy just epitomises mumsnet!
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@MrsSkylerWhite 'You don’t get to disregard the views of my CEV husband because his views don’t accord with your own.'
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@MrsSkylerWhite 'You don’t get to disregard the views of my CEV husband because his views don’t accord with your own.'
And you don't get to disregard the views of the cev people on this thread. A cev person's viewpoint whose family is grown up differs greatly from a cev person who needs to provide for her family and be alive for them too. Your rhetoric without empathy epitomises mumsnet!”

So, what exactly is it that you want from society, at this point, with the vast majority vaccinated?

Apologies, no idea what all of that was about.

Hopefully, question is clear. What exactly do you want from other people?