Shielding program stopped

[Egghead68]

For anyone this affects, the shielding program was stopped for good yesterday.

They snuck this news out under the cover of the cabinet reshuffle.

I was volunteering at a vaccine centre on Wednesday run by our local GPs and we gave out about 750 third jabs to the clinically vulnerable so if your GP hasn't yet got their act together ask them to get on with it.

@londonmummy1966

I was volunteering at a vaccine centre on Wednesday run by our local GPs and we gave out about 750 third jabs to the clinically vulnerable so if your GP hasn't yet got their act together ask them to get on with it.

Was that 3rd primary vaccinations to the immune compromised? ( who will have a 4th jab as a booster) .... or was it the booster jab? ( 3rd overall vaccine)

DotBall - were you allowed to wear a mask.
Imo some US states and europe are doing better. Masks should have been for all children at school. My relatives wear them fine.
This should have been until rates are very low and at least vax offered to 5+.
Instead i have 65+yo relatives in uk with covid. Vaccinated and currently ok but it is not certain and they will be obviously in line for the third dose and may get more protection from mixing AZ with pfizer.
Uk policy of infecting all kids isnt really protecting the previous CEV people.

@Smartiepants79

The emphasis on being ‘safe’ and ‘protected’ implies that if we do all these certain things we can guarantee people will NEVER catch it. That’s not realistic.

We can, however, listen to the experts (doctors) and take simple easy mitigation measures. Like masks in public spaces.

We take measures to reduce risks everyday. No smoking in indoor public areas - to protect others so that they can live longer and then be killed by Covid. We have speeding limits, seatbelt law, drink drive rules.

There's a difference between getting on with things as best we can, and being needlessly reckless with our own lives and the lives of others.

How long do you think you should be able to stay at home for whilst still being paid?

Why the British exceptionalism? We could at the very least follow Europe, East Asia, and America. Mitigation measures - including masks in schools. They're managing it, so can we. They don't accept just sitting back and letting hundreds of people be killed everyday, and many more left disabled. Neither should we accept it.

And anyway. Why not look at having CEV teachers remotely teach CEV children (and school refusers)?

[quote Sparklingbrook]@NotMyCat does it depend on why the patient is CEV maybe? I don't know whether people with some conditions would get it before others? It's cancer in my relative's case.[/quote]
It does, there was a list of the 500,000 most critically vulnerable (all blood cancers, other cancers on treatment, most recipients of bone marrow transplants and all solid organs, other seriousoymimmune compromised)

And yes, I'm beginning to think our GP is shite at jabs. We've had a series of examples of poor admin. And I'm wondering if it could be connected to the retirement of the senior partner a little while ago, because I'd been happy with the practice until these

No information about the flu jab or booster here from our Gp. However, they have started booster jabs of frontline care home staff and medical staff.
So if shielding has ended, boosters available, I wonder if I can have an actual appointment ( first since Feb 2020) with my medical consultant? Hope so! Meanwhile, I as a CEV worker in a school we have face to face parent consultations, open mornings etc this term.

Not heard anything from my GP. In fact they told me to go to 119, local vaccination centre won't let me have one without GP letter, my hospital consultant says its down to the the GP. GP is routinely useless, took 2.5 hours to get through on the phone the phone yesterday to be told once again nothing to do with them.

Such a ball ache to try and organise along with work ete. Meanwhile I'm expected to keep taking my 2 to school and hope they don't catch covid!

This must be very daunting news for people previously advised to shield. I think there should remain some flexability for CEV children to stay off school and for adults to work from home (or go on paid sick leave if not practical) during an outbreak. I wouldn't stop at covid though. I think there should be more flexability and support for people with health conditions and disabilities in general.

Shielding cannot continue forever - people are vaccinated now. Just to add I know an adult ECV who got covid and was unvaccinated and she only had a headache.. obv that cannot be said for everyone (CEV or not) but life beds to move forward.

I feel very sorry for the parents of under 12's who are CEV it must be so worrying and I hope they can approve a vaccine for that age group soon

How long do you think you should be able to stay at home for whilst still being paid

Ideally until they put back staggered starts, bubbles, isolation for small affected groups and masks indoors. That worked effectively between Easter and July.

Schools have always been germ-ravaged. Did this concern you before covid

Not really, because the common cold was highly unlikely to kill me and the last time I had flu was during the swine flu outbreak when that rampaged through the school too. I was lucky not to be on my immunosuppressant meds at that time because if I had been, I may have died.

I am the only immunocompromised CEV adult in my secondary school and up til now cannot fault the way my needs have been taken into consideration. I do have concerns for my return though, as the mitigating factors which applied to the whole school are no longer in place, and it was clear that these were protecting all of us .

Ideally until they put back staggered starts, bubbles, isolation for small affected groups and masks indoors. That worked effectively between Easter and July

So you want the education and well-being of millions of children (and by extension their families) interrupted indefinitely?

So you want the education and well-being of millions of children (and by extension their families) interrupted indefinitely

Well I’d be quite happy if they pensioned me off early as a 54 year old of 33 years service, with long term health conditions requiring immunosuppressant therapy, currently with covid, but the chances of that happening are…ooh….nil.

So it seems I’ve got to suck it up and possibly die? OK then.

Well I’d be quite happy if they pensioned me off early as a 54 year old of 33 years service

If you worked in the private sector, that wouldn’t even register in your mind as a possibility.

So it seems I’ve got to suck it up and possibly die?

You could change careers if the risk is more than you want to take.

@DotBall

So you want the education and well-being of millions of children (and by extension their families) interrupted indefinitely

Well I’d be quite happy if they pensioned me off early as a 54 year old of 33 years service, with long term health conditions requiring immunosuppressant therapy, currently with covid, but the chances of that happening are…ooh….nil.

So it seems I’ve got to suck it up and possibly die? OK then.

I’m sorry you have covid! Hope you feel better soon

Is it crazy to think that some people might have to have a career change if they want to avoid being around people long term? I mean, covid isn't going away ever, and the vaccines are the best we can do. There is nothing else!

The CEV thrown even further under the bus.

@HangingChads

Is it crazy to think that some people might have to have a career change if they want to avoid being around people long term? I mean, covid isn't going away ever, and the vaccines are the best we can do. There is nothing else!

Then you lose a lot of good staff and not being around people isn't easy My job isn't customer facing but I'm in an office with no windows and loads of staff So again that rules out supermarket workers, NHS staff, police, anyone who works in a GP surgery, carers, retail workers, lawyers, offices... the only job you can do is WFH FT

For me to feel safe I want to stay WFH (fine, sorted) and for people to wear masks and give a bit of distance if not

You could change careers if the risk is more than you want to take.

Have some fucking empathy.

Have some fucking empathy.

I don’t know many people who expect to be facilitated to their job to a really limited degree on full pay for the foreseeable.

If you worked in the private sector, that wouldn’t even register in your mind as a possibility

In the private sector at my grade I would probably be retired already.

You could change careers if the risk is more than you want to take

Yes, but as I’m so close to being able to take that gold-plated public sector pension, why bother hey? 😉

In the private sector at my grade I would probably be retired already.

You’d have enough built up in a direct contribution pension?

Seriously?

Please tell me what funds you would have been investing in?!?!

Yes, but as I’m so close to being able to take that gold-plated public sector pension, why bother hey?

If you have a direct benefit pension then it absolutely is gold plated compared to any equivalent in the private sector, yes.