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Surely just bring the mask mandate back now?

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Maskedtonigh · 15/09/2021 08:20

They are an easy measure that are no real hardship and could help (even if just in a small way) suppress this virus surely we should just bring back our mask mandate now?

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marieantoinehairnet · 15/09/2021 14:11

[quote Peteycat]@Marieantoinehairnet

No one is stopping you from wearing one. We just don't want it mandatory anymore.[/quote]
Who is "we"?

I think you'll find a lot of people do want it mandated

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:13

"14:11GoldFrankensteinAndGrrr

Antinerak

They should bring it back and 'exemptions' should only be for those who genuinely have severe breathing problems. I don't know of any other countries that allowed people to not wear masks because they have anxiety or any other fake excuses.

Here we go again, with this sort of ignorant, ableist twaddle.

What about those with TN? Or autism? Or PTSD due to rape/DV? Are they fake excuses?"

The sort of person that wrote crap like that never ceases to amaze me. They bang on and on about caring for the wider community by insisting masks should be brought back, but completely ignore or forget about others struggling. But they are oh so virtuous don't ya know?

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:14

@Antinerak

You are completely free to wear a mask should you wish to.

herecomesthsun · 15/09/2021 14:16

I think it should be at least more strongly encouraged and better explained to people who struggle with the rationale (like Conservative MPs)

GoldFrankensteinAndGrrr · 15/09/2021 14:16

@Peteycat truth. Imagine being the sort of person who tells someone who loses consciousness and pisses themselves during a TN attack, or who has violent flashbacks to being raped, that their 'excuse' for not wearing a mask is 'fake'. Imagine being that caring.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:18

14:16GoldFrankensteinAndGrrr

@Peteycat truth. Imagine being the sort of person who tells someone who loses consciousness and pisses themselves during a TN attack, or who has violent flashbacks to being raped, that their 'excuse' for not wearing a mask is 'fake'. Imagine being that caring.

Or someone who has had a really tough time in life who has anxiety etc and then has the added pressure of idiots giving them shit about not wearing a mask in public.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:19

"14:11marieantoinehairnet

Peteycat

@Marieantoinehairnet

No one is stopping you from wearing one. We just don't want it mandatory anymore.

Who is "we"?

I think you'll find a lot of people do want it mandated"

Some do, but more people don't want it mandated so the 'we' is because I stand with those who don't.

herecomesthsun · 15/09/2021 14:19

Or someone who posts antivax nonsense on a parents' website for fun?

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:20

"16herecomesthsun

I think it should be at least more strongly encouraged and better explained to people who struggle with the rationale (like Conservative MPs)"

Encouraged why? They don't have the impact you think they do.

marieantoinehairnet · 15/09/2021 14:21

Well thankfully it's not up to you...

herecomesthsun · 15/09/2021 14:22

I don't really mind whether it is mandated or not as long as we get the infections rates sufficiently under control to avoid lockdown (more or less the government's position I think)

Theoldcuriosityshop · 15/09/2021 14:25

I still wear a mask to go shopping and so do the majority of people where I live. My hairdresser still asks us to wear them, also there are a lot of colds and coughs and viruses doing the rounds, so I'm happy to wear mine.

ollyollyoxenfree · 15/09/2021 14:30

@Peteycat

"16herecomesthsun

I think it should be at least more strongly encouraged and better explained to people who struggle with the rationale (like Conservative MPs)"

Encouraged why? They don't have the impact you think they do.

@Peteycat stop with the misinformation unless you can back up your claims.

What evidence do you have that they "don't have the impact" another poster thinks they do? And how do you even know what degree of impact a poster thinks they have? Confused

I was totally on board (maybe not the tone but the general gist) with your views that self-exemption is important, but masks are an effective way to reduce transmission of coronavirus.

Doesn't mean they should be used indiscriminately, but trying to claim they're ineffective completely devalues your argument.

EileenGC · 15/09/2021 14:31

People saying ‘Scotland has a mask mandate and cases are still high’.

You can wear (useless) cloth masks in Scotland. Those countries that made FFP2 compulsory months ago, haven’t seen a big spike since. This was unrelated to vaccination rates as studies have shown; it was the use of a mask that actually offers good protection to both the wearer and those around them, that improved transmission rates.

Not to mention that in those countries you’re also stopped at the door of the shop/bus/event venue if you’re not wearing one - and you’re not allowed inside unless you put it on. Surprisingly, everyone is able to wear them.

Masks work - if worn and enforced properly. In the UK they were never going to have a significant impact, no matter how much the government went on about it.

batmanladybird · 15/09/2021 14:32

@EileenGC

People won’t do it anymore.

Also, if you’re going to mandate masks, you need to make FFP2/N95 or similar masks the only acceptable, legal option. A bit of cloth over your mouth and nose doesn’t offer much protection, the science now supports this.

To mandate proper masks you need to make them affordable - aka stop selling them at £3 a piece and making profit from them. I don’t see it happening in the UK anytime soon.

Why won't they do it any more?
Againstmachine · 15/09/2021 14:38

I think you'll find a lot of people do want it mandated

Lots of people want all sorts of things like the death penalty ect doesn't mean we should listen to them.

As said wear one of you want, stop trying to force things on people who don't.

Whatever9999 · 15/09/2021 14:43

@NothingIsWrong

Ask anyone who lip reads or needs facial expressions to decipher social cues how much of a hardship they are.

I didn't realise until masks became a thing how much I need to see people's faces or I lose the unspoken bits of conversations. It's been difficult.

Exactly. I'm autistic with sensory processing issues. Struggle to understand the meaning behind what someone is saying when I can see their whole face. Dont stand a chance when they're wearing a mask. Plus I can't isolate voices in a noisy situation, without masks in the mix. If the speaker is wearing a mask and there's any other background noise then again I don't stand a chance
CBroads · 15/09/2021 14:45

Sorry but why should everyone have to wear a mask because a couple of people are scared of leaving the house ? It's killing young people's best years! I am by no means anti mask but I am anti discrimination and that's all the mask mandate brings with it.

RolloTomassi · 15/09/2021 14:47

@Againstmachine @CBroads exactly. People need to back off with pushing their own wants onto other people. Butt out.

Elphame · 15/09/2021 14:48

@Everanewbie

HallowedKitchen I am glad your parents managed to flee to safety. But I disagree with this. A free society depends on state intervention only when absolute necessity and where encouragement and guidance isn't enough. i.e. we mandate speed limits, ban children from drinking in pubs and restrict the amount of paracetamol than can be bought in one go. These measures are proportionate to the risk of doing nothing. What would not be proportionate would be to ban alcohol entirely, ban cars and make paracetamol prescription only. People will die as a result of not banning these things, but the trust in the state depends on proportionality.

The right of the individual is sacred and should never be infringed upon unless it is proven to be needed and is proportionate. Where this concept is bent, or downright broken, we begin our decent to a country from which your parents fled.

In many peoples view, including mine, many state interventions on COVID have crossed the line of proportionality, especially when evidence is far from conclusive. These include masks, curfews, scotch egg-gate and banning outdoor activity.

And now that a large proportion of the country have received their vaccines, many, including me, do not accept state intervention any longer as it is no longer proportionate. It's not just about 'a mask'.

I agree

A repressive regime starts with a single step and that step has been taken here now

Many people seem happy about it and then a second step is taken, and then a third.

I really worry about what sort of country we'll have in a few years time. Tracked constantly, forcibly vaccinated it seems and our lives controlled by the state

severusvape · 15/09/2021 14:50

Sounds like mandating it would be beneficial. Some have said they’ll switch to online shopping which is great, shops will be quieter so less spread. They have a direct and indirect benefit.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 15/09/2021 14:52

@Maskedtonigh

They are an easy measure that are no real hardship and could help (even if just in a small way) suppress this virus surely we should just bring back our mask mandate now?
It's a no from me.
Stuffin · 15/09/2021 14:53

Mandating masks will effect the economy. I won't shop in person with a mask and I have been to pubs and restaurants more when they got rid of the ridiculous mask mandate until you sat down.

If you think masks work get a proper one which protects you and leave the rest of us to it.

Stuffin · 15/09/2021 14:54

@severusvape

Sounds like mandating it would be beneficial. Some have said they’ll switch to online shopping which is great, shops will be quieter so less spread. They have a direct and indirect benefit.
If I can't shop in person without a mask I tend to not spend money or use Amazon. Ultimately the high street suffers.
Dottyflorals · 15/09/2021 14:55

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