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Surely just bring the mask mandate back now?

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Maskedtonigh · 15/09/2021 08:20

They are an easy measure that are no real hardship and could help (even if just in a small way) suppress this virus surely we should just bring back our mask mandate now?

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/09/2021 12:59

It seems to me that for my entire lifetime I have been advised that if I sneeze I should cover my mouth and nose (sneeze into a handkerchief or my cloth-covered upper arm if I can do it in time) -- not to protect myself from my own germs, but to protect other people from them.

This has always seemed to me to make perfect sense.

Today, I have not taken a covid test. Today, I have no idea whether I have covid or not. If I have, and if I sneeze, I will be spreading my covid germs for several yards/metres in front of my face if I don't cover my mouth and nose when I do it. Sneezing sprays out from you, if it is not blocked.

Covid doesn't have to be sneezed. If you have it, you are breathing out the germs the entire time. How far does your breath go? I don't know: depends whether you are huffing and puffing and so on, but it won't stay in a nice neat bubble just outside your face.

Why wouldn't I be prepared to protect as much as I can someone on chemo, or someone immunosuppressed, or someone with a heart condition, or anyone who for whatever reason cannot at the moment be inoculated against covid, from my germs perhaps causing their death or long-term illness?

Yes, a mask will not confine my germs entirely to me. But it will very much reduce the amount of them that I am spreading around, and the distance I am spreading them to.

I hate masks. I hate wearing them, because they make me breathless at times and I have to pause where I am and breathe for a bit to recover. I hate people not being able to see that I am smiling at them, I hate not being able to see other people smile, I hate the whole business -- but I'd also hate to give someone covid and perhaps cause death or lasting health problems for them. And since people I talk to are mostly people I quite like, it seems a fairly crappy thing to do to people I quite like! In the same way, I don't have anything actively against people working in the shops, and if they can't do it because they are ill I wouldn't be able to buy things from them, so I'm spitting in my own cornflakes if I put them at risk.

(I don't wear a disposable mask. I wear a two-layer cloth mask with a paper filter inside it. When I get home I throw the paper away into the paper bin outside the house, wash the mask in hot soapy water and wash my hands thoroughly at the same time, then hang the mask to dry. The idea of throwing away disposable masks all the time makes me cringe for the environment, and I hate having to throw away a lot of bits of plastic every time I take a test.)

roarfeckingroarr · 15/09/2021 13:03

I truly hate mask wearing. Would do it if we had to but ugh it's horrid and I don't like wearing one with my baby, I think it must be so weird for them to see and not get to interact with people.

Thatsplentyjack · 15/09/2021 13:05

*I've recently returned from a country where masks are mandatory in public places. No one seemed to have a problem wearing one in shops or on public transport.

Hostility and resistance seems to be a peculiarly English thing.*

Well to be honest I don't see anyone complaining while I'm out and about either, oy people I talk to about it, which are few and far between. Trust me plenty of people in other countries will be moaning about masks.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 13:09

"12:43QueenofKattegat

You’re right, it’s no real hardship to wear a fucking mask

For an awful lot of people it really fucking is.

I will never get over the amount of people clamouring to have their lives ruled and dictated to by the government. Mad idea - if you want to wear a mask then crack on, but enough with expecting laws to force other people to your way of thinking"

Another fantastic comment.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 13:11

"13:03roarfeckingroarr

I truly hate mask wearing. Would do it if we had to but ugh it's horrid and I don't like wearing one with my baby, I think it must be so weird for them to see and not get to interact with people"

Agreed, they need to see us! Facial expressions etc. Its so important to their development.

user1487194234 · 15/09/2021 13:19

I genuinely doubt that masks as they are currently worn make any difference
In fact they might makes things worse ,as some people seem to think masks make them invincible

Wingedharpy · 15/09/2021 13:19

I'm immunosuppressed - transplant recipient.
I've never stopped wearing my mask when indoors in a public place but knew when the mask regulations lifted than many, if not most, people would want to stop wearing them.
I fully understand this and have no issue.
But, in readiness, I changed my choice of mask to FFP2 type - which affords me more protection.
The mask is also useful as I currently have a spot on my noseWink

BogRollBOGOF · 15/09/2021 13:22

It was no hardship to have regular panic attacks in the supermarket.
It was no hardship to scratch my face to bleeding because of sensory overwhelm.
It was no hardship to be unable to lip read.
It was no hardship to have what speech was left muffled by screens and fabric.
It was no hardship to be left unable to make face contact with other people because of the discombobulated eyes.
It was no hardship to stay at home feeling depressed at avoiding anything non-essential to avoid the aggro of being in places where masks were expected.
It was no hardship reaching my limit and then feeling anxious that I might incur the wrath of some sanctimonious twat with the confidence to berate me for having the audacity to breathe freely in a public place.

It's very depressing that there are still people who dismiss other people's difficulties as no hardship.

I've had my jabs. I've made more than enough sacrifices for little personal benefit. I will not wear a mask again and have not since January when I broke.
It will be a depressing day if I have to wear a bloody sunflower lanyard to be able to go about my business again.

And all for a less than 10% efficiency rate.

If you want to wear one, wear it, you're free to do so. But don't expect the rest of us to continue suffering them for little substantial reason.

(And if I lived in a stricter country? I'd be hiding away at home drugged up to cope with the misery of existance).

Lostinacloud · 15/09/2021 13:25

Haven’t people seen enough comparison graphs from all over the world (mainly comparing US states with and without mask mandates) to finally figure out that they do sod all?
Apart from the fact most people are actually waking around WITHOUT covid and perfectly healthy and yet still having to wear a mask, as many have said before, for them to have any kind of chance at helping, they need to originate from a sterile wrapper without being touched and not from your handbag, pocket, glove box or car seat. Added to that, their discomfort physically and socially and I really can’t understand why so many people are clamouring for their mandated return.
If they were capable of actually stopping covid spreading on people’s breath, coughs or sneezes then why aren’t there yellow lid bio hazard bins everywhere to contain this deadly virus stuck all over the mask?

BoredZelda · 15/09/2021 13:38

Ask anyone who lip reads or needs facial expressions to decipher social cues how much of a hardship they are.

In which case people can be asked to lower their masks.

Mantlemoose · 15/09/2021 13:40

Still wearing masks in scotland and numbers are seriously bad. Obviously no real use for them.

LaikO · 15/09/2021 13:48

@BoredZelda

Ask anyone who lip reads or needs facial expressions to decipher social cues how much of a hardship they are.

In which case people can be asked to lower their masks.

Yes, I'm autistic and struggle badly with social cues, very badly. Would still prefer for people to wear a mask if possible and if I'm struggling, I'll ask if they'd mind lowering it.
HSHorror · 15/09/2021 13:52

I thini the comparison with scotland depends. Is it stopping those who do want to avoid it catching it? Maybe. As in it may offer some protection for those who legally have to send their kids in when classmates or teachers have covid at home. The people catching covid may be in pubs/festivals or individual houses which is less an issue as those people are choosing to take the chance.

As it is with no masks in schools my kids dont go indoors at grandparents etc. Hopefully we will find that the 70yos etc do get a boost to immunity from getting pfizer (most i know got AZ)

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 13:56

"13:19Wingedharpy

I'm immunosuppressed - transplant recipient.
I've never stopped wearing my mask when indoors in a public place but knew when the mask regulations lifted than many, if not most, people would want to stop wearing them.
I fully understand this and have no issue.
But, in readiness, I changed my choice of mask to FFP2 type - which affords me more protection.
The mask is also useful as I currently have a spot on my nosewink"

I hope you recover very quickly x thank you for giving an opinion non biased from a your point of view as a vulnerable person. We need more like you, like I say I wish you well xxx

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 13:57

Hope the spot goes soon too! X

hamstersarse · 15/09/2021 13:57

I got the train from Glasgow to England the other week.

Masks were mandatory between Glasgow and Carlisle. Then it was personal choice. Same train, same people. Most people took their masks off at Carlisle. I can't fathom how people are so compliant with such obvious idiocy.

It sums up the hilarity around masks that people truly believe these bits of cloth over a face which have been worn multiple times and are constantly touched will make a blind bit of difference.

Scotland's cases are no different to England's (possibly higher?) and yet the pantomime around masks continues.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 13:59

@BogRollBOGOF

your post made me feel sad. Bless your heart you keep doing what you can to enjoy your life. Ignore sanctimonious twats, they usually have some sort of issue deep down they have yet to deal with xx

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/09/2021 14:01

@Wingedharpy

I'm immunosuppressed - transplant recipient. I've never stopped wearing my mask when indoors in a public place but knew when the mask regulations lifted than many, if not most, people would want to stop wearing them. I fully understand this and have no issue. But, in readiness, I changed my choice of mask to FFP2 type - which affords me more protection. The mask is also useful as I currently have a spot on my noseWink
I hope all goes well for you.

It's people in your position who make me feel that I want to wear a mask -- just in case I might give you this filthy disease if I don't wear one.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:01

@Lostinacloud

"If they were capable of actually stopping covid spreading on people’s breath, coughs or sneezes then why aren’t there yellow lid bio hazard bins everywhere to contain this deadly virus stuck all over the mask?"

I've wondered this too.

NothingIsWrong · 15/09/2021 14:04

@BoredZelda

Ask anyone who lip reads or needs facial expressions to decipher social cues how much of a hardship they are.

In which case people can be asked to lower their masks.

That's OK for momentary interactions. What about being out shopping with someone and needing it lowered all the time to be able to have a conversation of any meaning?
marieantoinehairnet · 15/09/2021 14:08

It's madness that we are holding off.

If it's a good idea down the line, it's a good idea now.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:10

"14:08marieantoinehairnet

It's madness that we are holding off.

If it's a good idea down the line, it's a good idea now."

The very idea of masks now we know they don't really have a decent enough impact, is madness.

Peteycat · 15/09/2021 14:11

@Marieantoinehairnet

No one is stopping you from wearing one. We just don't want it mandatory anymore.

NotMyCat · 15/09/2021 14:11

@Wingedharpy

I'm immunosuppressed - transplant recipient. I've never stopped wearing my mask when indoors in a public place but knew when the mask regulations lifted than many, if not most, people would want to stop wearing them. I fully understand this and have no issue. But, in readiness, I changed my choice of mask to FFP2 type - which affords me more protection. The mask is also useful as I currently have a spot on my noseWink
Exactly the same here. Upgraded my mask to FFP2
GoldFrankensteinAndGrrr · 15/09/2021 14:11

@Antinerak

They should bring it back and 'exemptions' should only be for those who genuinely have severe breathing problems. I don't know of any other countries that allowed people to not wear masks because they have anxiety or any other fake excuses.
Here we go again, with this sort of ignorant, ableist twaddle.

What about those with TN? Or autism? Or PTSD due to rape/DV? Are they fake excuses?