Surely just bring the mask mandate back now?

[Maskedtonigh]

They are an easy measure that are no real hardship and could help (even if just in a small way) suppress this virus surely we should just bring back our mask mandate now?

@Augusta1 exactly no one has a problem with people wearing, I just have a problem with removal of choice.

*19:08Againstmachine

@Augusta1 exactly no one has a problem with people wearing, I just have a problem with removal of choice.*

This all the way.

@Augusta1

I haven’t worn a mask since they became optional. By all means wear one if you want but don’t foist them on the rest of us thank you very much. 🙄

Okay , to invert your reasoning, all means don't wear one as long - as you can 100% guarantee not to infect anyone else.

Otherwise it's not really fair if you "foist" infection on anyone else is it?

They might be extremely vulnerable/ unable to have been vaccinated etc

There's not so much risk outside but indoors/ where it is crowded / in close contact it really isn't unreasonable -unless there is a really good medical or psychological reason not to.

Okay , to invert your reasoning, all means don't wear one as long - as you can 100% guarantee not to infect anyone else.

You can't guarantee 100% not to infect people even if you are wearing a mask.

Give over.

"Okay , to invert your reasoning, all means don't wear one as long - as you can 100% guarantee not to infect anyone else."

I have seen it all now....

Masks are incompatible with lots of industries being able to operate profitably. People don't like them and don't want to wear them so will avoid/limit the time they spend in places that require them, especially if those places are "optional".

The vast majority will comply with an obligation to wear a mask to go to a supermarket etc but lots of people don't want to pay £50 to sit in a theatre in a mask for 3 hours.

They carried out studies that suggested retaining compulsory masks would cost the economy billions. That has a negative impact too. It's not a straightforward situation.

@KingsleyShacklebolt

Okay , to invert your reasoning, all means don't wear one as long - as you can 100% guarantee not to infect anyone else.

You can't guarantee 100% not to infect people even if you are wearing a mask.

Give over.

I wear a FFP2 mask and I'm very careful.

You might not want a mask "foisted" on you (and I sympathize as I didn't go around in a mask before, you know, we were in a pandemic).

But I don't want covid "foisted on me either thanks.

And we know that masks help reduce infection quite a lot, especially FFP2s

(I was picking up on the use of "foist" if you can't where I am coming from)

@Sunshinegirl82 Yep

There was a Slimming World leaflet drop on our estate last Thursday. Unusual for September. We seem to usually get them after Christmas and Easter. They are held in our very stuffy town hall. I wasnt planning on going back (im doing quite well on my own) But if i was i wouldnt if you know what i mean. There is no way i would be sitting in our stuffy town hall with a mask on when they get brought back in and bloody paying for it. Not a chance.

@herecomesthsun

Read@Sunshinegirl82s post. It will help you to understand.

[quote Peteycat]@herecomesthsun

Read@Sunshinegirl82s post. It will help you to understand.[/quote]
Oh I understand what she said, I just don't agree with it. Too simplistic.

For example, re theatre, there are lots of people like me who previously went to the theatre every month or 2. I have been twice in the past 6 weeks -but outdoors. I have no intention at all of going back to an enclosed space full of unmasked people in a pandemic.

Look at the age groups of people who make up theatre audiences. We are high risk.- the people who need booster jabs You actually can't afford not to address our need to be safe.

"Look at the age groups of people who make up theatre audiences. We are high risk.- the people who need booster jabs You actually can't afford not to address our need to be safe."

Whilst of course I want you to be safe, I wish you health, but we cannot keep imposing masks on everyone, especially the young. If you decide not to go to the indoor theatre, I'm afraid that is a choice you have made. You could go and wear your mask?

We cannot afford either to impose restrictions on the wider public because the fallout will be horrendous.

@Peteycat

We cannot afford either to impose restrictions on the wider public because the fallout will be horrendous.

We can't afford to risk lockdown again --because the fallout will be horrendous!

That is why we need the Plan A and Plan B

@Peteycat

"Look at the age groups of people who make up theatre audiences. We are high risk.- the people who need booster jabs You actually can't afford not to address our need to be safe."

Whilst of course I want you to be safe, I wish you health, but we cannot keep imposing masks on everyone, especially the young. If you decide not to go to the indoor theatre, I'm afraid that is a choice you have made. You could go and wear your mask?

I'm afraid that in business one has to cater to the needs and wishes of the consumer. I think it is a really big problem for theatre sadly (I wish it wasn't) from the survey results I have seen.

"20:50herecomesthsun

Peteycat

We cannot afford either to impose restrictions on the wider public because the fallout will be horrendous.

We can't afford to risk lockdown again --because the fallout will be horrendous!

That is why we need the Plan A and Plan B"
I disagree.

"I'm afraid that in business one has to cater to the needs and wishes of the consumer. I think it is a really big problem for theatre sadly (I wish it wasn't) from the survey results I have seen"

So if theatre goers are mainly older as you say, surely alot of them will have hearing, visual impairments, so mask wearing is harder for them? Surely?

Do theatres ask for masks to be worn?

I haven’t been lately

They still can as various places do

*We can't afford to risk lockdown again --because the fallout will be horrendous!

That is why we need the Plan A and Plan B*

How come we had two lockdowns whilst wearing masks.

Masks achieve nothing

@MarshaBradyo

Do theatres ask for masks to be worn?

I haven’t been lately

They still can as various places do

Exactly.

If they believe this would be a good business move they are free to require all audience members to wear a mask. They don't need a univesal legal mandate to do so.

@Peteycat

"I'm afraid that in business one has to cater to the needs and wishes of the consumer. I think it is a really big problem for theatre sadly (I wish it wasn't) from the survey results I have seen"

So if theatre goers are mainly older as you say, surely alot of them will have hearing, visual impairments, so mask wearing is harder for them? Surely?

Masks aren't necessarily a problem with glasses if the upper part fits well to the nose, which all mine do.

I think we generally need to see actors' faces, assuming this isn't an ancient Greek play or traditional Japanese theatre or a Venetian masquerade. But as long as the actors aren't wearing masks, I'm not sure why a hearing impediment in an audience member would affect them wearing a mask.

Though it has been rather lovely seeing Shakespeare performed outside, fairly close to what would have been the original arrangements (and with no one wearing masks)

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@Againstmachine

*We can't afford to risk lockdown again --because the fallout will be horrendous!

That is why we need the Plan A and Plan B*

How come we had two lockdowns whilst wearing masks.

Masks achieve nothing

That doesn't logically follow.

For example, I was in a serious car accident --despite wearing a seatbelt.

The seatbelt didn't stop the accident or the car being written off. It wasn't sufficient in itself to do so.

However, it very likely prevented worse injury to me, which was very useful.

Similarly, masks aren't a complete answer in themselves but the scientific consensus is that they help enough to be pretty useful in keeping infection numbers down.

Fuck masks, just have the vaccine.

I agree that the vaccines would be doing the "heavy lifting"

Iced yep if a theatre thought it could be more profitable with masks due to the type of audience then it would do that.

@paddyk

Fuck masks, just have the vaccine.

Fuck anyone who can't have the vaccine. They clearly deserve to die.

(Anyone who can't tell: this is an irritated response, not a serious suggestion or reflection of my actual feelings.)