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To be livid with the government

138 replies

Pissofog · 12/09/2021 13:41

They are Cowards. Dropping plans for a vaccine passport which would have kept us all safe but after some pushback from the covidiots and the useful fools who enable them in the name of “freedom”. I am so angry that once again public health is put bellow greed and the “rights” of a selfish minority to endanger themselves and others. 😡😡😡

OP posts:
lockdownmadnessdotcom · 12/09/2021 17:38

I don't see why those who choose not to protect others and get us out of the pandemic should not be penalised for it, they want the advantages of 'freedom' but won't take the perceived risk and that is selfish. They can stay at home, not those of us who have done the right thing

Oh don't be so sanctimonious. People get themselves and their children vaccinated for their benefit. Lets get over this idea that people get vaccinated "for the good of society". They do not. They do it to avoid getting ill themselves, having the worry of sick children and/or losing pay because they have to take time off work.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 12/09/2021 17:41

Well OP Im double jabbed and caught Covid from my double jabbed DH who caught it at work from someone who was double jabbed. Vaccine passports wouldn't have prevented me from getting Covid. I get public transport in an airless tin box which is rammed with about 50 per cent not wearing masks and I've no idea who is jabbed or not. This I have no choice in to get to work. I don't understand the logic that having them in certain places where people can choose to be or not is seen as a magical defence while ignoring other crowded settings such as schools or public transport is perfectly acceptable.

IcedPurple · 12/09/2021 17:45

a vaccine passport which would have kept us all safe

How?

The vast majority of adults are vaccinated.

How would requiring those people to show proof of vaccination 'keep us all safe'?

The faith being placed in these 'safety measures', first masks and now 'vaccine passports', is ridiculous. Life is not 'safe'.

IcedPurple · 12/09/2021 17:49

But it would have stopped unvaccinated people getting into concerts/ pubs/ clubs and restaurants and catching COVID potentially taking up an ICU bed in the process.
Why should people with suspected cancer/ other illnesses be made to wait due to covidiots taking up too much ICU space?

The sentiments expressed in this post illustrate perfectly why 'vaccine passports' are a terrible idea and it's a very good thing that they're not going to happen.

What if an unvaccinated 'covidiot', to use the idiotic term, catches it at work or at university? Is that OK? Are they then deserving of the national healthcare system because they haven't caught it in a frivilous place?

gluteustothemaximus · 12/09/2021 17:51

Wait a minute, aren't we unsure of how long protection lasts for the jabs? They think at least 6 months, but do not know.

So we could be double jabbed, and in a few months, not be protected.

My eldest, 18, very low risk from death/hospitalisation, had a Pfizer, for the good of his family and others. He won't be going back for the second due to pain in his heart, palpitations, and pain when breathing after the jab.

My daughter, soon to be in the 12-15 bracket, will not get one either.

Why should their life be restricted with vaccine passports?

(I am double jabbed).

Violet9 · 12/09/2021 17:51

@DumplingsAndStew I just wondered how you know a poster has namechanged? I never knew you could tell unless the op
tells you they have? Curious to know!

NailsNeedDoing · 12/09/2021 17:52

I can’t see what there is for you to be angry about OP, you can still make your own choices about where you go based on the information you have. You’d be very naive to believe that you’d be completely safe from catching covid while going to events with vaccine passports, because you wouldn’t be.

Far more reason to be angry at those who think other people should lose their right to bodily autonomy and civil liberties for the sake of a virus that is mild for the vast majority of people who catch it.

madmomma · 12/09/2021 17:53

Excellent news that the vaccine passports have been dropped. The idea was disgusting. Vaccines are for people who want them, freedom is for everyone, even idiots.

dilly123 · 12/09/2021 18:00

So happy to see the majority of replies to the OP are not in agreement.. it gives me hope for the future!

SilverGlitterBaubles · 12/09/2021 18:17

Do you really want to reach a point OP where you have to show your papers such as official ID and a vaccine passport to do something pretty ordinary like go to the theatre or have a meal? I have experienced this over the summer while visiting another country and I really didn't fell less safe I felt pretty alarmed and uncomfortable with the whole situation. If there was concrete evidence it would make a big difference fair enough but right now I can't see that it anything except a means of coercion for anyone hesitant to get the jab.

BlackberryMuncher · 12/09/2021 18:20

[quote Violet9]@DumplingsAndStew I just wondered how you know a poster has namechanged? I never knew you could tell unless the op
tells you they have? Curious to know![/quote]
It's the only post under the OP's name.

Could be new, but much more likely name changed. It's allowed.

TubeOfSmarties · 12/09/2021 18:37

Boris Johnson is gutless. He's proved it at every turn. It's why we're in this mess. It's why so many people have died.

kowari · 12/09/2021 18:37

@Staryflight445

‘ Vaccine passports wouldn't have "kept us all safe" - you can still transmit / catch COVID even when double jabbed (may be less likely but doesn't stop it).’

^
But it would have stopped unvaccinated people getting into concerts/ pubs/ clubs and restaurants and catching COVID potentially taking up an ICU bed in the process.
Why should people with suspected cancer/ other illnesses be made to wait due to covidiots taking up too much ICU space?

All the unvaccinated people I know are very unlikely to end up in ICU. I've had covid and have no health conditions or lifestyle factors that put me at greater risk for my age should I catch it again.
Suzi888 · 12/09/2021 18:41

The Government already know who has been jabbed and who hasn’t.
What would the point be? You can still get it, still pass it on, still die from it. Confused

UsedUpUsername · 12/09/2021 18:50

About time the government did something right …

Peteycat · 12/09/2021 19:02

1"7:14Bizawit

In one city the far-right infiltration made itself felt, as ever, with violence and racist overtones

How are protests for civil liberties now seen as being the work/ business of the far right. 😨 the world has gone loopy loo. Thank god plans were dropped here. I wish all those up for stuff like this would bugger off to their own fascist island and leave the rest of us in peace.

(Doubled vaxxed btw)"

Totally agree with this statement. So now people who are protesting for freedom and liberty, get labelled racist etc. Honestly the way some people think is mind blowing.

AnyFucker · 12/09/2021 19:11

Vaccine passports are overkill. We now have the majority of adults double vaccinated. Vaccines do not stop transmission. So there is no point to vaccine passports.
Our only responsibility should be an individual one to get vaccinated and then get on with your life.
This madness needs to stop.

User135644 · 12/09/2021 19:41

@Mycatcontrolsmymovements

They are also doing away with lft testing for admissions as well...
The only problem is when they decide to shut down hospitality again and use "well you didn't want vaccine passports" as an excuse.
Mantlemoose · 12/09/2021 19:47

You might be willing to carry an identity card to work and live in your own country but I'm not. Why do your rights triumph mine? FWIW I am double vaccinated and I've never broken the rules but I will not lie down and accept my rights being eroded.

alreadytaken · 12/09/2021 20:09

Moronic decision that increases the chance of future lockdowns.In keeping with the stupidity shown by the goverment throughout the pandemic.

kowari · 12/09/2021 20:41

How will it increase the chance of future lockdowns?

Peteycat · 12/09/2021 20:48

"20:09alreadytaken

Moronic decision that increases the chance of future lockdowns.In keeping with the stupidity shown by the goverment throughout the pandemic"

How? You may want to give your rights as a human being away but I do not.

XenoBitch · 12/09/2021 20:51

I was livid that they U turned on the idea of vaccine passports to start with (as in, they promised they would not happen to begin with).
This is great news that they have seen sense. I do not see how this will mean we will have to lockdown again.

Peteycat · 12/09/2021 20:57

@XenoBitch

I agree. I cannot understand what they are talking about saying it will cause another lockdown.

SonnetForSpring · 12/09/2021 22:29

Double vaxed people have same viral load as non vaxed. However, vaxed people shed the virus for a shorter amount of time. Still though vaccines don't prevent transmission. Only reduce it slightly. They also significantly reduce a person's risk of being hospitalised. I can't really see why vaccine passports would be beneficial to be honest in terms of allowing people to do things. It just creates a false sense of security.

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