I've had the vaccine but now I'm scared

[Laney39]

I have had 2 shots of pfizer vaccine. I was scared to get it but eventually did. Now I'm terrified I should have taken my chances with covid. I've read that people will eventually die from these vaccines because it's new technology that hasn't been tested in the long term. How do the spike proteins stop producing? What will happen in 5 or 10 years time or does it just wear off?
People are saying it's all just a big money making thing for pharma companies and that we'll all get sick and need more drugs.
I can't sleep, I can't stop thinking about it. Can anyone help and reassure me?

That is ONE GP in Ireland. Why is her view more important that the other GP's in Ireland or in the UK or elsewhere?

Why have you chosen to listen to this woman over any other doctor?

Other GPs say 'get the vaccine'. She says don't so she's the authority.

Do you also share her views on abortion?

She reminds me somewhat of Katie Hopkins. Will say absolutely anything for attention.

Indeed I currently have covid after being double vaccinated. Am glad I have had the vaccine as thus far it is a relativley mild illness due to the protection I have. Dont read foolish propaganda

@Laney39

I have had 2 shots of pfizer vaccine. I was scared to get it but eventually did. Now I'm terrified I should have taken my chances with covid. I've read that people will eventually die from these vaccines because it's new technology that hasn't been tested in the long term. How do the spike proteins stop producing? What will happen in 5 or 10 years time or does it just wear off? People are saying it's all just a big money making thing for pharma companies and that we'll all get sick and need more drugs. I can't sleep, I can't stop thinking about it. Can anyone help and reassure me?

Op, follow the conspiracy theory train of thought for a bit. So the goal is to make us sick so that big pharma can keep selling us drugs. But if we're all sick who's going to keep the economy running? Who's going to keep paying taxes? Surely the health system would collapse. The social benefits and pension system would be put under imense pressure. It makes no sense for goverments to purposefully make the population sick. They need healthy productive adults to keep the system running smoothly.

@Waxonwaxoff0

Some GPs are quacks.

Some people that say they're GPs aren't GPs.

You are reading nonsense for trolls and conspiracists on the internet.
For scientific information about vaccines then you need to read information from scientists, not conspiracists.

Fwiw, covid could have killed me. My blood pressure rose so high, so quickly, I had to be rushed to a and e with a very real risk of heart attack or stroke. Having to say goodbye to dh at the hospital door under that level of stress was not an experience I'd fancy going through again personally.

I got the vaccine to reduce the risk of experiencing that again.

I had no real side effects, beyond a sore arm for a couple of days, from my Pfizer vaccines. I can't say the same about covid.

Vaccine hesitancy isn’t entirely baseless around these vaccines when you are just a lay person.

It is based on a well known problem, ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. (From Nature article linked below) “the biggest hurdle with antibody-based vaccines and therapeutics is the risk of exacerbating COVID-19 severity via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). ADE can increase the severity of multiple viral infections, including other respiratory viruses such as respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)9,10 and measles”

But anyway, this is explained better here www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5

People get emotionally reliant on conspiracy theory's, so much so that they want stuff to be true and will read into it.

When I was young (showing my age here) chain letters were a thing. Frightening handwritten letters that you had to pass on or you or a loved one would die (apparently. I never did pass any on yet here I am!)

This kind of scaremongering is a modern day version of that. There are some people that get a kick out of scaring others. Don't fall for it! It's just silliness, you are well, you are here, all is fine. Maybe step away from these kind of sites, don't give these people the satisfaction of being scared over their nonsense x

[quote hamstersarse]Vaccine hesitancy isn’t entirely baseless around these vaccines when you are just a lay person.

It is based on a well known problem, ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. (From Nature article linked below) “the biggest hurdle with antibody-based vaccines and therapeutics is the risk of exacerbating COVID-19 severity via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). ADE can increase the severity of multiple viral infections, including other respiratory viruses such as respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)9,10 and measles”

But anyway, this is explained better here www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5[/quote]
Surely if that was a thing we'd see severe Covid cases in jabbed people. But the evidence shows quite the opposite, much milder cases.

Can you tell me what post graduate degrees (biosciences obviously), medical degrees, experience in drug development and drug trials/data analysis these people have?

I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again. I have family (not distant cousin but my NOK) who have all those degrees and drug development experience of 30+ years. I too have worked in the pharmaceutical industry. We are all vaccinated and will take any future booster offered. Just as we have our annual flu jab (which is different every year) jabs for travel etc etc.

As an aside (not really relevant to, or aimed at, you OP) I do think this is a problem caused by scaring people into having a vaccine. So many people that would have ordinarily chosen not to are now having this vaccine that they don't actually want, and if they are young and healthy, don't actually need, because they've been frightened into it, or feel that they have to bow to societal pressure. Normally the most vulnerable or most anxious, like the OP.

To be clear I DO NOT think there is any risk from the vaccine. But I do think the feelings and worry that people like the OP experience are due to doing something (having the jab) that feels wrong to them. This feeling of "wrongness" manifests itself in believing conspiracy theories. The brain processing an internal feeling of "wrongness" as an external event.

Taking my 16yo for a Pfizer this PM., because ultimately it will protect her and her friends.
What exactly are you scared of OP.?
Will she grow a second head do you think? Or am just waving good bye to my chance to be a granny?

" I've read that people will eventually die from these vaccines..."

I've read that the world is flat. I can choose whether to live my life as if it is or not.

Actually, your attitude makes me a bit cross. Thousands of people have put extraordinary effort into researching, developing and producing these vaccines, people have volunteered in their tens of thousands to be given them, long before the vaccines were approved as safe. Thousands have put their jobs on hold or volunteered to get the vaccine into your arm.

To me it seems that you should be eternally grateful for their efforts which mean you have the best possible chance to live a long and healthy life.

But instead you choose to indulge in the frisson of horror that comes from paying attention to the nonsense that some people get their kicks from disseminating about biologically unlikely, probably impossible, scenarios related to the vaccines.

@amicissimma

" I've read that people will eventually die from these vaccines..."

I've read that the world is flat. I can choose whether to live my life as if it is or not.

Actually, your attitude makes me a bit cross. Thousands of people have put extraordinary effort into researching, developing and producing these vaccines, people have volunteered in their tens of thousands to be given them, long before the vaccines were approved as safe. Thousands have put their jobs on hold or volunteered to get the vaccine into your arm.

To me it seems that you should be eternally grateful for their efforts which mean you have the best possible chance to live a long and healthy life.

But instead you choose to indulge in the frisson of horror that comes from paying attention to the nonsense that some people get their kicks from disseminating about biologically unlikely, probably impossible, scenarios related to the vaccines.

Absolutely this, very well said!!

Tbh you've had the vaccines so you can't change anything so you can chose to continue reading stuff and being worried or move on.

@Laney39

I have had 2 shots of pfizer vaccine. I was scared to get it but eventually did. Now I'm terrified I should have taken my chances with covid. I've read that people will eventually die from these vaccines because it's new technology that hasn't been tested in the long term. How do the spike proteins stop producing? What will happen in 5 or 10 years time or does it just wear off? People are saying it's all just a big money making thing for pharma companies and that we'll all get sick and need more drugs. I can't sleep, I can't stop thinking about it. Can anyone help and reassure me?

As, its a new technology that hasent been tested in the long term, how do people know we will die eventually from the vaccine as it hasent been tested in the long term? I have no idea how spike proteins, stop producing as i have no idea what spike proteins are or what they are supposed to do, do you Op? What i do know is that i would rather trust scientists, who are far cleverer than me and have spent years working on vaccines and how they work Rather than Billy Bullshitter on facebook, who probably doesnt have a GCSE to their name and whose research consists of you tube videos and Twitter ramblings

Every single doctor in the hospital I work in chose to take the vaccine. These are not easily led people. Stop reading nonsense on the internet. You don’t know the exact science behind it all so we have you blindly trust… I also don’t know the exact recipe for a Big Mac but I’d eat one at a service station!

I thought they were introducing booster vaccines and there was talk of it being an annual vaccine because the effectiveness of the vaccine reduces after an amount of time (like the annual flu vaccine). I could have read the wrong thing though, there's so much misinformation out there. People started having the vaccines Christmas time though, so I would have thought if there was going to be a long-term problem it would be starting to show by now.

Imagine if everyone who has been vaccinated dies in a few years time. The world would be run by 10 year olds That's a hell of an apocalypse movie waiting to be made

@titchy

Imagine if everyone who has been vaccinated dies in a few years time. The world would be run by 10 year olds That's a hell of an apocalypse movie waiting to be made

Apocalypse?

It sounds like a utopia compared to the idiots running the show right now.

No one knows how anything will be in 10-20 years time. None of us knows if we will still be alive. What I do know is I’d prefer to be able to live my life to the fullest extent possible NOW and that means taking a vaccine that I trust has been tested and reviewed and monitored by people with far larger brains than mine. Nine of us can live our lives based on ifs buts and maybes about the distant future can we? Especially when those ifs buts and maybes are spouted by unqualified cranks on social media.

Growing up my GP was a homeopath so if a GP can think prescribing water constitutes practicing medicine then it stands to reason there will be a handful of Anti vaccines GP’s out there.

I'll see your Derry GP and raise you my friend's husband who is a respiratory consultant in Belfast. He says- get vaxed.

I didn't watch that video to the end. Does she also explain that the red Smarties give you cancer and if you don't close your eyes when you sneeze your eyeballs will fall out and if you touch the desk that Smelly Simon's pencilcase sat on, you'll get AIDS?

Well thanks everyone, you've all actually given me the shake I needed. Scientists are paid to produce and worry about how these vaccines work so I'll leave it to them

[quote tattymacduff]That Dr is retired and a known covid denier www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/09/16/news/retired-derry-gp-contacted-by-regulator-over-her-opposition-to-masks-2067945/r[/quote]
I'm from this area where the GP is. Known nutjob honestly I wouldn't listen. Go to your own GP if concerned