How can it possibly be a good idea to NOT isolate if a household member tests positive?

[DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo]

As the new rules will allow?

I think it's absolute madness.

We've all had positives over the last three weeks and even though we are all double jabbed, the illness is really, really nasty.

We all tested positive about 5
Days apart, like bloody dominos.

I just can't believe what destruction we would have unleashed had we not had to isolate.

A/c - Were

I will still isolate if a member of my household tests positive.

I'm just glad I no longer have to lock my little girl in the house for 10 days if some random in her class gets a cough.

I'm just glad I no longer have to lock my little girl in the house for 10 days if some random in her class gets a cough. grin

Presumably you have never actually had to isolate your child for ten days if someone in their class just had a cough, though!

@IrisPurple

I will still isolate if a member of my household tests positive.

I'm just glad I no longer have to lock my little girl in the house for 10 days if some random in her class gets a cough.

I would imagine work would prefer me to wfh too, rather than potentially infect half the office - who would then have to isolate. We have to test regularly if in the office so positives would then get sent home, whch wouldbe far more disruptive than me just staying home in the first place.

@Hollyhead

Because I think a lot of people will still be reasonably sensible. For example if DH tested positive I would cancel social events, get shopping delivered and work from home. However I would still allow myself a walk around the block, or football in the park with the DC. Just because it’s not a legal requirement doesn’t mean you go all out if you know you’ve been in contact.

I can't work from home ....I'm a TA so if my husband gets it ..I could possibly spread it around a school !!!

@Lulu1919 Even if legally you would not have to isolate, do you think your school's health and safety policy/risk assessment will want you in, or want you to isolate?

I wasn't vaccinated at the time no, but for my particularly reason for being hospitalised it's not really guaranteed vaccination would have made that much of a difference. As I'm CV we also don't know exactly how well the vaccination will have taken, as my immune system is compromised a bit. I do know I developed antibodies from the virus itself however.

However, my older CEV cousin has just has covid and was really quite poorly. She wasn't in hospital but she was bed bound for a number of days, and needed help with simple daily tasks. She is sure her vaccine ensured she stayed out of hospital - so a positive support for vaccination from her. And like myself, she is used to daily pain and discomfort. But covid still 'floored her' - not because she is weak when it comes to dealing with viruses and illness, but because she got a nasty dose of it.

I still find it unfair of posters to try to diminish the effects covid has in other people. Like all viruses you can get hit in different ways. Being hit hard doesn't make someone 'weak' or that they are putting on the unpleasantness of their illness.

I know, and understand, why some posters want to downplay covid' so ability to make some people feel really poorly but it really isn't fair to do so.

We have all just had it - double-vaxxed adults in 40s and non vaxxed under 10s. For us all it was a mild illness, I have had much worse coughs and colds and carried on with life. While we did isolate it seemed bizarre to need to stay at home for something so minor. I appreciate that for a minority that wouldn't be the case and they would become more ill, but that is the same with flu and other illnesses like chickenpox.

We have to live again.

Personally I think household members of a positive case should continue to isolate for the 10 days but close contacts outside the home should be free to not isolate as long as they are double vaxed. Thankfully only know personally of 5 Covid positives throughout the pandemic, they came from 2 households (2adults in one and 2adukts and a child in another)

[quote lannistunut]@Lulu1919 Even if legally you would not have to isolate, do you think your school's health and safety policy/risk assessment will want you in, or want you to isolate?[/quote]
They will expect staff in. They won’t be able to afford to replace them as they can’t claim on the insurance if legally the person shouldn’t be isolating.

[quote lannistunut]@Lulu1919 Even if legally you would not have to isolate, do you think your school's health and safety policy/risk assessment will want you in, or want you to isolate?[/quote]
Regardless of what anyone’s personal opinion may be, if your work place cannot afford for you to be off, the policy is that employees must come in, and legally there is no entitlement for someone to be off, then people will have no choice but to come into work if they cannot work from home for whatever reason.

Morals or what you ‘should’ do mean nothing in their scenario.

Note
Also I'm unpaid if I'm off isolating ....isolating law or not ...not so black and white for some people !
Of it were law of course I would ....but as it's not ...then I'm not sure what I can do

I do not live in England and am in a place where different rules apply. Where I am the requirement for people to isolate if they are in a household with members that have Covid was removed some time ago.

Both my son and I tested positive for Covid this week. My husband has no symptoms and does not have it. He has been testing himself with lateral flows twice daily (one in the morning and one in the evening). He has upped his vitamins, eating healthily and keeping his distance from us. He has moved to a sore room to sleep in.

It really is possible for those within households that are not positive not to isolate as long as they are responsible.

I am a very cautious person by nature but we need to get used to living with this.

[quote DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo]@rainbowunicorn

We bloody should isolate people if their family has novovirus etc - would you say 'yes' to friends coming round in that situation?[/quote]
You mean you should legally isolate entire families if one member contracts ANY virus?! That would be ridiculous. Covid will now be treated the same as people getting norovirus or flu etc - it will rely on people's common sense.

@Daisydoor12

Personally I think household members of a positive case should continue to isolate for the 10 days but close contacts outside the home should be free to not isolate as long as they are double vaxed. Thankfully only know personally of 5 Covid positives throughout the pandemic, they came from 2 households (2adults in one and 2adukts and a child in another)

Lucky you. I know prob about 150 plus by now

I entirely expect isolation for the infected to end in mid to late September as well. Infections in children will rise rapidly once schools go back, and in the same way that high infection rates post Euros had the undesirable side effect of many app ‘pings’, this will lead to parents having to miss work to look after infected children, and infected school staff will be absent for 10 days at a time.

It will very rapidly change to no isolation but advice to stay at hone if really too ill to go out.

This will only be reversed if the NHS is overwhelmed or deaths in the young become publicly unacceptable.

[quote DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo]@MilkTwoSugarsThanks

Your mask won't protect YOU from others.[/quote]
It does. The mask reduces inhaled droplets. The myth of it only protecting others is in fact that, a myth.

Oh, and minimal information will be made public through mainstream channels, relying on public weariness / declining interest. Tests will start to be charged for or require prescriptions, and only those interested enough to dig around on the ONS or other data pages will be aware of adverse movements in hospitalisation or death.

Haven't RTFT, but completely agree with the OP that household members should still be required to isolate if one member of the household tests positive, as the likelihood of other household members also having Covid is so high. I do think it would be reasonable to have an exception for anyone has recently had Covid (-perhaps in the last 6 months, confirmed by PCR).

I agree OP. I can’t believe that’s not covered in the new rules. I bet it gets added. It was reported that you would have to if your household was positive a few days ago but it’s missing from the gov website.

We don't isolate households for norovirus, chicken pox, flu or any other virus why should covid be any different? All equally transmissible and potentially dangerous in some people. Fact is ,it's not viable long term to keep isolating whole families. And given that lateral covid tests are so easily accessible now means to some extent we can keep an eye on asymptomatic transmission something that were not able to do with other viruses.

Lateral flows are 60% accurate I believe.

@Benjispruce5

Lateral flows are 60% accurate I believe.

As opposed to the none existant tests we have available for any other virus that is readily circulating. 60% is better than nothing at all.

I agree Op, it is a reckless thing to do. If covid is in your home, then everyone should isolate.

As for those of you who still are spouting out the same shit that it's mild for nearly everyone, just because it was mild for you. If you haven't had it, you have no idea how your body will react. Why can't some get this through their heads.