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Normal life is back

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ExmoorValley · 10/08/2021 13:26

I don't know about you but life where I am is pretty much back to normal, masks in shops falling rapidly. People having a good time. Covid barely gets mentioned now. (and yes I know people are still catching it and a tiny proportion will die)

It feels great. So what happened to the 200,000 cases a day doom scenario peddlers on here? They seem rather quiet.......

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Jourdain11 · 14/08/2021 13:56

Why is 30,000 a day not manageable? How many of them are seriously sick? Is the NHS overstretched due to those cases?

Anyway, 30,000 a day can't and won't continue and infinitum. At some point, too many people have had it and acquired immunity.

I'm well aware that some would say that I'm a tin foil hat wearer, conspiracy theorist, fucking idiot etc. But I still don't see why Covid is ultimately going to be different than other viruses. Yeah, I get that as a novel virus it's currently more transmissible and fewer people have acquired immunity.

I had my spleen removed during leukaemia treatment last year. My immune system still isn't working all that great due to after effects of chemo. And I have to accept that I have a quite high chance of not staying in long-term remission due to the stage at which AML was identified and the length of treatment it took to achieve remission. For those reasons - as well as for the fact that my eldest daughter has a neurological condition which can be exacerbated by any infection - I'm not at all keen to catch any virus or infection. But I'm actually not more worried about the consequences of catching Covid than of catching any other illness.

You have to live your life. You have to let your kids lead their life. DD1 recently was hospitalised with seizures after picking up a stomach bug which sent her whole system haywire. You can take precautions, you can be sensible, you can put measures in place that become part of your everyday life, like extra hand washing or taking Vitamin D... But you can't stop living in order to make sure you stay alive.

MarshaBradyo · 14/08/2021 13:59

30000 a day is NOT manageable. Not to mention this is in the height of summer with schools closed.

Even with caps this still isn’t correct.

It is manageable because hospitalisation is within capacity and levelling off. You need to look at the right metric.

Sparklingbrook · 14/08/2021 14:01

[quote nomore3lw]@NannyAndJohn I noticed you stayed away from this thread and have avoided responding to people asking you about you revisiting a thread to ask a poster if they were still 'smug'[/quote]
I still can't quite believe that actually happened. Shock

Doodlebug71 · 14/08/2021 14:12

[quote MrsLCSofLichfield]@Quartz2208 - you are right, as ever. Uncertainty is hard to deal with.

It's hard not to judge each other, too. I admire the rhetorical skills of some posters, though. "We can all live how we want to live, of course, but I'm really concerned that you haven't been to the supermarket for a year, that's not normal. Oh, and I'm giving my children a real childhood, which on MN inevitably means holidaying in Cornwall/North Norfolk. So sorry for all you mums who don't want to or can't afford it, or have to work, surely not and your poor DC, what a shame".

OK Hmm[/quote]
Well, I knew MN had some really spiteful people posting, but the suggestion that someone should seek help from their GP because they're being socially responsible? That takes the biscuit.

@NannyAndJohn : You appear to be doing just fine. The suggestion that you need to seek help is risible.

@MrsLCSofLichfield

Quite. What a shower of pernicious bollocks. "Oh, you poor thing. You really should seek help" say the people who appear to have swallowed the vile Hood's appalling and calculated language hook, line and sinker. When he used the word, "cowering", in relation to people trying to avoid covid (and those who'd already died as a direct result of his party's incompetence), this is precisely the sort of behaviour he was dog-whistling. His apology is meaningless because he knew that people would take that and run with it. As they have.

Super-callous, fascist, racist. Tories are atrocious. They know *exactly what they're doing, and some of you are falling for it at every step. Every Damned Time.

MarshaBradyo · 14/08/2021 14:16

The main point is we can do what we choose, even without a pandemic if people don’t want to or can’t do loads of things that’s fine.

But that has to be afforded in other direction too.

If someone wants to do it all, fine.

QueenofKattegat · 14/08/2021 14:35

Your cringe fangirling over Nanny is a bit weird Doodlebug.

Did you miss the part where this particular poster bumped a 2 week old thread to gloat about deaths increasing? This person is absolutely spiteful and toxic. Why are you so keen to cheerlead for them?

QueenofKattegat · 14/08/2021 14:36

Oh and they absolutely do need to seek help. That you can't see that is concerning in itself.

nomore3lw · 14/08/2021 14:37

@Doodlebug71

"Super-callous, fascist, racist. Tories are atrocious"

I can't not read that to the turn of Mary Poppins super cala fragilistic expialidocious

MrsLCSofLichfield · 14/08/2021 14:40

@QueenofKattegat

Oh and they absolutely do need to seek help. That you can't see that is concerning in itself.
Oh, do give over.
Quartz2208 · 14/08/2021 14:44

I think some posters are stuck with very inflexible rigid thinking and this cognitive rigiditiy makes it impossible to see or imagine any other solution that a doomed lockdown. Its reverse it a complete lack of being able to see that COVID is dangerous at all. Both sides are locked in a battle unable to see the other point of view - simply because their respective viewpoints are in fact based in reality.

Socially responsible is no more refusing to go out and staying in than it is to go out without any thought as if the world is back to normal.

Being socially responsible right now is being cautious is taking care but is also starting to live life again, going out and experiencing stuff whilst being measured and careful

Doodlebug71 · 14/08/2021 15:02

@Quartz2208

I think some posters are stuck with very inflexible rigid thinking and this cognitive rigiditiy makes it impossible to see or imagine any other solution that a doomed lockdown. Its reverse it a complete lack of being able to see that COVID is dangerous at all. Both sides are locked in a battle unable to see the other point of view - simply because their respective viewpoints are in fact based in reality.

Socially responsible is no more refusing to go out and staying in than it is to go out without any thought as if the world is back to normal.

Being socially responsible right now is being cautious is taking care but is also starting to live life again, going out and experiencing stuff whilst being measured and careful

Quartz. I'm CEV. I have friends who are CEV. We go out for walks, and we have to carry and wear masks because too many people think this is all over, and that "we should just go back to normal". Covid will be with us for quite some time. I've already adjusted life so that I'm able to go for walks, and do as much as is possible. if that means refusing to meet with someone who goes out for coffee most mornings, and mingles with loads of other people, that's what I do.

@QueenofKattegat. Fangirling? I could google that, I suppose, but your meaning is clear enough. Nope, I didn't see the posts you mention. perhaps you could link it. Either way, agreeing with one point someone makes doesn't mean I agree with everything they say/do. Life's funny like that. As for seeking help, that's funny. My GP knows the medical history of this household, because they've been our GP for some years. Said GP is also immunosuppressed, and I think I'd rather take their (qualified to the hilt in every way) advice over yours, ta. Smile

Doodlebug71 · 14/08/2021 15:03

[quote nomore3lw]@Doodlebug71

"Super-callous, fascist, racist. Tories are atrocious"

I can't not read that to the turn of Mary Poppins super cala fragilistic expialidocious[/quote]
Grin Wink.

Jourdain11 · 14/08/2021 15:11

@Doodlebug71 I'm also "CEV" (Oh, I long for the day when this isn't a thing and I think you've got a misunderstanding of what a mask does. It stops you from spreading infection to others, not the other way round!

NotMyCat · 14/08/2021 15:20

[quote Jourdain11]@Doodlebug71 I'm also "CEV" (Oh, I long for the day when this isn't a thing and I think you've got a misunderstanding of what a mask does. It stops you from spreading infection to others, not the other way round![/quote]
Depends which mask. I wear FFP2/3 so I'm protecting myself

TheGenealogist · 14/08/2021 15:34

I remember you from the "anti-dementors" threads last year, @Jourdain11. Hope you're doing well.

QueenofKattegat · 14/08/2021 15:40

I wasn't referring to you needing help Doodlebug. I was referring to the toxic poster Nanny who is dangerous.

No, I won't link it but the thread was started by Delatron. She refers to it herself in this thread.

lannistunut · 14/08/2021 16:55

@QueenofKattegat

I wasn't referring to you needing help Doodlebug. I was referring to the toxic poster Nanny who is dangerous.

No, I won't link it but the thread was started by Delatron. She refers to it herself in this thread.

Personal attack on a poster
lannistunut · 14/08/2021 16:56

Sorry posted too soon - I know people disagree but I don;t think calling people toxic and dangerous is OK

Sparklingbrook · 14/08/2021 16:57

Oh dear. Have you been living under a fucking rock for the last year?

Personal attack on a poster.

lannistunut · 14/08/2021 16:59

@Sparklingbrook

Oh dear. Have you been living under a fucking rock for the last year?

Personal attack on a poster.

Yes that also.

This is not necessary, Covid is worse than bloody Brexit for nastiness.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/08/2021 17:01

@lannistunut

Sorry posted too soon - I know people disagree but I don;t think calling people toxic and dangerous is OK
Have you read Nanny's posts?
Sparklingbrook · 14/08/2021 17:02

Yes, @NannyAndJohn is dishing it out too. Not necessary.

lannistunut · 14/08/2021 17:07

Have you read Nanny's posts?

It is all getting a bit 'she started it, Miss'! I just wish it was less arsey on all directions. It was the same on Brexit threads.

Sparklingbrook · 14/08/2021 17:10

Was @NannyAndJohn on the Brexit threads too?

lannistunut · 14/08/2021 17:12

I think everyone who was on Brexit threads can recall how arsey they were. Covid threads are similar.