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Only 300 people under 40 have died. Source for all UK Covid-19 deaths broken down by age - where to find?

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lightattheendofthetunnel2021 · 28/07/2021 21:14

I heard from a senior contact in industry, who knows some of the most prominent figureheads for the pandemic response in the UK, that to date, less than 300 people aged under 40 have died since the start of the pandemic.

Other countries have very transparent data on this where deaths are broken down in small age brackets and by absolute numbers (not as a % of the total number of deaths or % of population). Is there something similar here? If not, why not?

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MRex · 30/07/2021 13:19

Variants don't quite work like that. They arise most often from lengthy recovery times. Along with health service management, it's one of the reasons why the elderly and clinically vulnerable are a priority for vaccination in most countries.

Zandathepanda · 30/07/2021 13:27

lftqiacks can you provide links as I have never heard this.
Many countries are saying Britain is the place where new variants are going to emerge because of how it has been handled here, for example:
www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/britain-reopens-scientists-warn-fertile-ground-coronavirus-variants

Zandathepanda · 30/07/2021 13:29

Apologies with your name Ifitquacks my phone did a weird autocorrect Confused

Ifitquacks · 30/07/2021 13:35

Sure, here’s one…

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1384112892857905154.html

berrylands · 30/07/2021 13:58

@Ifitquacks
Your link only speaks about the chances of one variant, B.1.617, to escape the vaccine.
It also says:
"Do I think it’s important to control the spread of B.1.617? Absolutely. But, it is also important to remain calm, get vaccinated, and value facts over fear."
And also:
" Controlling spread and transmission is vital."

Which was exactly my point.

That new variants will escape the vaccine more easily is not in discussion. It's happening already
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

MrsRLynde · 30/07/2021 14:04

@berrylands

It's an epidemic. The under 40 might have a low risk of dying, but as they are not isolated from older people, if they don't take measures the virus will increase in older population too. Letting the virus infect many people produces variants. It's only a matter of time before variants escape the vaccine. I don't understand why so many people think their personal risk of dying changes what they should be doing. Covid is a problem for all society. I can't help thinking our response to it shows we are useless at dealing with problems that require collaboration. So we are fucked about climate change. Luckily I don't have to do anything about it because I don't live in an area prone to climate disasters.
This.
MedSchoolRat · 30/07/2021 14:10

Letting the virus infect many people produces variants. It's only a matter of time before variants escape the vaccine

Not definitely true... There are limits to how much viruses can mutate or genetically drift. The most successful genetic versions may have already have been reached for most viruses that affect humans, including covid, including most of the common mostly benign respiratory viruses. At moment Delta is super successful, nothing is beating it for prevalence once it gets established. Its winning formula may be very hard to beat.

This article explains more about the constraints that viruses may have in their adaptation potential.

berrylands · 30/07/2021 14:30

@MedSchoolRat
That is an interesting article that doesn't contradict anything I'm saying.
In this article from this week, the author of the article you linked, Prof Aris Katzaurakis and other virologists, explain how important is to keep the spread of the virus low and to get the vaccine:
www.bbc.com/news/health-57941574.amp

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