Only 300 people under 40 have died. Source for all UK Covid-19 deaths broken down by age - where to find?

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I heard from a senior contact in industry, who knows some of the most prominent figureheads for the pandemic response in the UK, that to date, less than 300 people aged under 40 have died since the start of the pandemic.

Other countries have very transparent data on this where deaths are broken down in small age brackets and by absolute numbers (not as a % of the total number of deaths or % of population). Is there something similar here? If not, why not?

Coronavirus.data.gov.uk is where I'm looking, it's got every age bracket spanning 5 years for each one. They're trying so hard to conceal the data they've hidden it in plain sight.

It’s on the sodding ONS site updated weekly. It’s literally the site whose purpose is to report deaths registered for the UK. It’s always been there. Anyone who wants to know about deaths in this country has been using it for years. When the epidemic took off they rapidly added a specific tab for Covid.

I’m on my phone so can’t check your factoid, but fortunately you can check it yourself. You can also check the statistics by age week by week for every previous year.

Can we have a “Oh that’s good. Hurrah for the ONS and their timely and transparent data sets!. I’m so glad that my country is doing a competent job at reporting this!” please OP?

Hi OP. There was a thread in data here a while ago and someone asked a similar question as you. A really good link was posted with deaths per week for age groups, genders, underlying health conditions or not etc. It was one of the data or good news threads on this board. I will see if I can find it for you once my DC are asleep!

@Heyha

Coronavirus.data.gov.uk is where I'm looking, it's got every age bracket spanning 5 years for each one. They're trying so hard to conceal the data they've hidden it in plain sight.

One thing the government has done really well since the beginning is transparency with data. They publish/update the data daily and share as much of it as possible, this has never happened before with anything else. It's great.

Now the media on the other hand has been awful in their biased reporting... I still remember early on the media reports of 400 deaths in last year ranging from 29 - 92... Never mind there was literally 1 death at 29 and no deaths below 60.. why did I know this? Because the government released the data and made it public... In previous times wed have to rely on the biased media reports.

Typed in covid deaths by age in uk and got this to w ending 1st jan 21

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19byageband

Am sure you can work the rest out adding it up. This shows more than 300 under 40 have died

in the last 24 hours**

Here you go OP.
But I definitely want a “gosh aren’t the ONS good!” in return.
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

Your data is wrong.

It's not that hard to find the correct data... @MorganSeventh told you what to google

Here:

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

857 deaths in the 0-39 age group in just England, not the UK but then it leaps up.

Is there any reason why you don't think the over 40s matter so much? Or people left with disabilities? You can't just look at the death rates.

@2boysand1princess

Hi OP. There was a thread in data here a while ago and someone asked a similar question as you. A really good link was posted with deaths per week for age groups, genders, underlying health conditions or not etc. It was one of the data or good news threads on this board. I will see if I can find it for you once my DC are asleep!

Also, I’m not 100% certain but I think it was an NHS England website link. Could be wrong.

@chesirecat99

Your data is wrong.

It's not that hard to find the correct data... @MorganSeventh told you what to google

Here:

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

857 deaths in the 0-39 age group in just England, not the UK but then it leaps up.

Is there any reason why you don't think the over 40s matter so much? Or people left with disabilities? You can't just look at the death rates.

Well someone who is 30 and healthy, should assess their risk according to other healthy 30 year olds... Not 80 year old obese diabetic cancer patients... They doesn't mean those people don't matter.. of course they matter but it just means we don't consider them when looking at our individual risk profile.

Bloody ONS being all transparent and spoiling things...

Absolutely @Shelddd and then you come on here and you see posts like the OP and you wonder why the poor data wizards even bothered inputting it. I do agree with you about the media but it says a lot that even with Google being literally at our fingertips 24/7 people still claim to be being kept in the dark or misled as though it was still 1989 and you could only get info from newspapers, the 6 o clock news or an encyclopedia (maybe Encarta in the computer by then too?)

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

Think there's info on here. Looks like more than 300 under 40s and that's just in England

www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Click on www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-28-July-2021.xlsx

then deaths by age 3a

For me it shows around 692 deaths in those under 40. 46 of them being under 20.

This is one of the charts

Not the point of the thread (well maybe it is!) but I bloody love the ONS! Such a minefield of really interesting really useful data, all available to the public at the click of a mouse/thumb.

Sorry I'll put my inner nerd away now.

That chart gives 857 in total under 40

Well someone who is 30 and healthy, should assess their risk according to other healthy 30 year olds... Not 80 year old obese diabetic cancer patients... They doesn't mean those people don't matter.. of course they matter but it just means we don't consider them when looking at our individual risk profile.

OP can't assess her individual risk profile by just considering the number of deaths, she would need to consider the risk of disability @Shelddd

Anyway, I doubt that is her motive as she's quoting incorrect data as being fact that came from a "senior contact" in a provocative thread title. And accusing the government of hiding data when it couldn't be easier to find with a quick google

I would also doubt that someone that can't even google and find that easy-to-find data is very good at interpreting data or assessing risk either.

It does put into perspective that certain groups have been made to be fearful, much more so than necessary.

Only if they're a sociopath and/or have no family and friends. Most normal people care about their parents, siblings, grandparents, cousins, friends etc.

Anyway you're wrong about the figures as pp have pointed out.

Separately it would be irrational and very odd to not be cautious ('fearful'). Death is not the only bad outcome when it comes to this disease. Many people will indeed be 'living with' Covid - with Long Covid disability.

There's an astonishing amount of data and info on the ONS site. No-one can say there's no transparency. And if you contact them and ask them for any data that you can't find, they'll find it for you.

The key point is - how many of the under 40 deaths had no underlying health conditions

The answer is - not very many

@saraclara

There's an astonishing amount of data and info on the ONS site. No-one can say there's no transparency. And if you contact them and ask them for any data that you can't find, they'll find it for you.

Oh yes I'd forgotten that! I've emailed them a few times and they have been super-helpful!

@AlecTrevelyan006

The key point is - how many of the under 40 deaths had no underlying health conditions

The answer is - not very many

And?

@AlecTrevelyan006 and why is that they key point?