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Who else is sick of the hysteria?

141 replies

Suranjeep · 16/07/2021 21:24

There must be others? Time to tighthen ofcom rules, and clamp down on mis or sensationalist reporting in newspapers, online, TV, Radio etc.

Granny killers, look into their eyes, covidiots, hype over figures, over reporting, under reporting, selective reporting, anti vaxxers, selfish non maskers, etc etc is goes on and on.

There would probably be better compliance for rules etc if this hadnt become a circus of hystera and hyperbole.

/rant over

OP posts:
Sanguinesuzy · 17/07/2021 08:29

@Polkadotties you do know that something like 130,000 people have died of covid in just over a year or so don't you ? Flu has never killed so many in that time. Love how people with no background in epidemiology think so called 'common sense' trumps everything else Confused

Polkadotties · 17/07/2021 08:32

[quote Sanguinesuzy]@Polkadotties you do know that something like 130,000 people have died of covid in just over a year or so don't you ? Flu has never killed so many in that time. Love how people with no background in epidemiology think so called 'common sense' trumps everything else Confused[/quote]
But they haven’t. 130,000 people have died with covid on their death certificate. They haven’t died because of covid.

Polkadotties · 17/07/2021 08:35

Actually ill rephrase that. 130,000 people have died within 28 days of a positive covid test. They haven’t died because of covid.

Sanguinesuzy · 17/07/2021 08:40

@Usual2usual tbf the GP refusing to see your DH is the fault of your GP. Many GPs are seeing people, my son saw one earlier in the year. No problem.
If indeed your husband does have 'serious' intractable pain, you need to be complaining and demanding a referral.
Fact is covid measures were enforced to ensure the NHS can at least provide care for urgent cases. Services have returned to a degree of normality. I've been offered a mammogram, also had an angiogram last year. I wasn't an urgent case.

Suranjeep · 17/07/2021 08:44

A good example of hysteria today being reported and getting hysterical on twitter. Wembley Variant.

No dears, they got ill with Covid at an uncontrolled events, it’s not a variant but why not report as such, eh?

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Sanguinesuzy · 17/07/2021 08:47

@Polkadotties Covid is an infection affecting the whole body, multiple bodily systems, not just respiratory function. We had patients die of MI, or CVA as a result of the effect covid has on blood vessels, blood clotting etc. Primary cause of death cardiovascular but initiated by covid. Many patients develop hepatic and renal failure, require dialysis. So enough of the 'dying with not of covid rubbish'.

Topseyt · 17/07/2021 09:18

[quote Sanguinesuzy]@Polkadotties you do know that something like 130,000 people have died of covid in just over a year or so don't you ? Flu has never killed so many in that time. Love how people with no background in epidemiology think so called 'common sense' trumps everything else Confused[/quote]
Wrong. Many of those people were killed by something entirely different.

However, because they happened to have tested positive for Covid within the 28 days leading up to their death, or even just as they got to the hospital, Covid had to be listed on their death certificates even though it wasn't the issue that killed them.

This may be why we now have the ridiculous situation where some people now seem to think that Covid is the only illness around and the only issue of which people die.

Imnothereforthedrama · 17/07/2021 09:24

Yep agreed lost all common sense . I’m hearing of peoples kids that I know being sent home because they have coughed/ sneezed once or twice and not allowed back until had a pcr test . So kids missing a couple of days of school time and time again plus the times of bubbles closing and schools were closed for months . It’s fucking shocking over a virus that shouldn’t be killing anyone now unless extremely vulnerable . We’ve all had the bloody vaccine haven’t we . When does it end? live your life and unless you feel unwell then test . Fuck all this isolating because you passed someone in a shop and in schools no need unless you are positive in my opinion.
They need to stop reporting the cases maybe just deaths 50 odd daily deaths is tiny compared to what we were getting .

Usual2usual · 17/07/2021 09:39

@Sanguinesuzy

thanks for the tone of disbelief, whenever anyone of the numerous people complaining about GP's not seeing anyone, dares to mention it, someone has to claim they are lying.

We have complained made no difference and as I have said A&E had to see to his referral for a scan by writing a rather scathing letter to the GP (which I have seen) wondering why no appointment had ever been forthcoming.

When I had my daughter at A&E after breaking her wrist the lovely nurse told me that they were overwhelmed becase GP's were not seeing anyone and people were being told to 'go to A&E' by receptionists.

I'm not lying I have absolutley zero reason to.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 17/07/2021 09:52

Fact is covid measures were enforced to ensure the NHS can at least provide care for urgent cases

Had the doctor seen my dad face to face rather than insist that he could only have a telephone appointment due to "covid measures", then he would have seen my dad's weight loss, the colour of his skin, the bags under his eyes and referred him for an urgent scan. As it was it was 2 months before dad was taken to hospital by ambulance with dehydration and had the scan which picked up the cancer that killed him 6 weeks later.

Madhairday · 17/07/2021 09:53

However, because they happened to have tested positive for Covid within the 28 days leading up to their death, or even just as they got to the hospital, Covid had to be listed on their death certificates even though it wasn't the issue that killed them.

Such misinformation going round.
Covid deaths are recorded in 2 ways - the 28 day measure which is used for immediacy, and the death certificiations. The latter actually count for more deaths - 150k and counting. And around 85 - 90% of those show covid as the main cause - the others have it as a contributory cause. No, not all death certificates record covid if it was present, only if it was contributory. The 28 days thing is a rough measure but gives some accuracy as to the escalation of events, the certification measure shows the more accurate numbers.

Sanguinesuzy · 17/07/2021 10:45

@Usual2usual not disbelieving you. It's the GP at fault. That's what I was implying. Move GPs, ask for a second opinion, compain (which you said you did) but to insinuate that everything stopped due to covid is wrong.
@trappedsincesundaymorn agree that is negligent on the part of the GP. A GP who ignores that someone has unintentionally lost a considerable amount of weight is clearly not doing his job. Again that is an issue about the quality of GP care. My son presented with a worrying issue (mild but persistent abdo pain) in the middle of the 2nd wave. Within 12 hours he was in theatre having his appendix removed. He looked well, not typical symptoms, but I have a competent GP who cared enough to see him. My GP could have fobbed us off, said give it a few days etc ....

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/07/2021 10:50

was all fine for the fucking football ...

That's when I lost what little remained of my patience. Either it's a dread virus or it's not, and if it is you don't host events like that, no matter what the excuses about "test events" (AKA organisations who can afford massive bungs)

Wimbledon, etc, too before anyone says it - except that other sports don't tend to attract the same kind of behaviour

Toty · 17/07/2021 10:57

Just waiting for the graphic pictures of children hooked up to machines and the 'children are dying, vaccinate your kids' headlines. It's coming, so predictable Hmm

LucilleTheVampireBat · 17/07/2021 10:57

I completely agree with you OP. People have absolutely lost their minds. The collective response to this relatively mild virus has been insane. I dread to think what reaction there will be when something very serious comes along.

Sanguinesuzy · 17/07/2021 11:06

Mild virus ? At its peak in january almost 40,000 people were hospital with covid. What should have the collective response been @LucilleTheVampireBat ?

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LucilleTheVampireBat · 17/07/2021 11:27

@Sanguinesuzy

Mild virus ? At its peak in january almost 40,000 people were hospital with covid. What should have the collective response been *@LucilleTheVampireBat* ?
In the winter of 2017/2018 up to 400 people a day died of flu. Do you recall the lockdowns that year? I dont.

It's a lazy response to trot out "what should have happened then". You're trying to shut down and invalidate an opinion you don't like. Try harder.

Arrowheart · 17/07/2021 11:28

Was just saying exactly the same as your OP this morning OP. I couldn't agree more.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/07/2021 11:35

I dread to think what reaction there will be when something very serious comes along

I've said as much myself - also that it might have been nice to have some infrastructure left to deal with it if it does

However it's all gristle to Boris's mill if the overall privatisation of the NHS goes ahead; make people desperate enough and they'll accept almost anything to escape

Imnothereforthedrama · 17/07/2021 11:35

@Puzzledandpissedoff

was all fine for the fucking football ...

That's when I lost what little remained of my patience. Either it's a dread virus or it's not, and if it is you don't host events like that, no matter what the excuses about "test events" (AKA organisations who can afford massive bungs)

Wimbledon, etc, too before anyone says it - except that other sports don't tend to attract the same kind of behaviour

Agreed it’s safe to have 1000’s of people together but my god Covid infections are rising and kids are being sent home from school for every little thing . Guidance is complete bollocks sick of now , mixed messages and guidance that makes no sense even our mp’s can’t stick to the rules so why they hell should we .
NotSoLongGoodbye · 17/07/2021 11:36

I agree OP. I am fed up of it all now. Fed up of the coercion and agendas that are being presented by the media.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/07/2021 11:36

Grist, not gristle - damn you, autocorrect!!

Ilovegreentomatoes · 17/07/2021 11:39

The reason we are the worst in Europe regarding cases is because we have to many morons who think if we ignore covid it will go away, a NHS service that has not been fit for purpose for years and a government that wants to pretend we are all ok because they are bored of it now. Utter shambles.

Ilovegreentomatoes · 17/07/2021 11:42

Long covid is very real I don't recall the flu virus leaving so many people with long term conditions yet people are comparing covid like it's the flu when the long term affects can be so much worse.

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