If you have young adult children, what are they thinking about the vaccine?

[VanCleefArpels]

Just reading that uptake among the young is flattening and so wondering what your young adults and friends are thinking about taking the vaccine? Mine are early twenties and have both had a first jab and desperate to get the second. Both will go to a walk up as soon as possible. On the whole their friends have the same attitude so I’m wondering if they are unusual given the stats?

My child isn't academic so no judgement here on that front. They want to go out and travel asap. 🤷

I think we were talking about it here as the vaccine rollout in the youth has coincided with everyone and their dog seeming to catch covid at Euro get togethers. It's been a bit of drama in an otherwise uneventful summer! So yes we must be dull.😂

Most people I know are waiting for their 2nd, uptake is very high.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

But why are they taking so long to decide? I don’t think they have yet? It’s already been approved, but they are not coming forward when every kid over 12 in the rest of the western world is getting it.

My understanding ( from watching Chris Whitty on tv) is that because the risk of getting seriously ill / dying from Covid is very low in the youngest people the balance of risk with possible side effects from the vaccine tips in favour of no vaccine

Mine (19/20) got dune at the first opportunity and awaiting second impatiently.

They know that being vaccinated cuts transmission and therefore the potential development of new variants and that mass vaccine is the only / quickest way out of this for everyone.

My (just) 18 year old had her first vaccine a week after her birthday

Mine had it, no question. But he was working in a Covid test centre so got offered it earlier than general for the age group anyway.

My understanding ( from watching Chris Whitty on tv) is that because the risk of getting seriously ill / dying from Covid is very low in the youngest people the balance of risk with possible side effects from the vaccine tips in favour of no vaccine

This is what were being told. If it’s true then we should be glad that we are in a country where though is being put into what is best for our children. But let’s not pretend there won’t be a cost element to this too. Our kids aren’t that important to Boris and co, there will be lots of reasons why kids aren’t being offered the vaccine.

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My understanding ( from watching Chris Whitty on tv) is that because the risk of getting seriously ill / dying from Covid is very low in the youngest people the balance of risk with possible side effects from the vaccine tips in favour of no vaccine

For the current variant. Continued transmission increases the potential for new variants, which may put everyone, including the younger age group, at greater risk.

So your understanding is a very short term view.

The risks, in any case, are so tiny.

Older teens and young adults take many greater risk every day if their lives. Unless they live with life-crippling levels of anxiety.

They need to look at this with the same altruism that the tiny are leading the environmental campaign with.

I am glad my Dc are vaccinated.

It seems to me the only real reason to give a 12yo the vaccine is because of the travle advantages it brings and we do have a problem with the gap caused with what other countries are requiring and what we are doing, but why would you give a vaccine to a child without a medical reason to do so? Especially when vaccines are desperately needed elsewhere in the world.

Mine and their their have refused, one of the reasons is because it's not licensed. Some have allergies and they've read the green book on this, their own risk assessments. Only reason I am aware is because their mates have contacted me asking me if I'm ok with being around them, which is depressing that they felt the need to mention it.

They are still travelling and doing the test option. Many club owners have already stated they won't be needing the passport. They have tickets already booked for opening nights and gigs, and have written confirmation the passport is not needed stating the reasons why.

We knew a text was in the offing from doctor's surgery, DD (19) was constantly checking, booked immediately it came through. Another lad I know got in the queue before midnight in readiness for when the NHS system would accept 18 year olds. All of DD's friends (she has a lot) have had their vaccine, some were lucky to qualify through work/CV family and had their second jabs a while ago. Vaccine uptake in our area is very high though.

@Canigooutyet

Mine and their their have refused, one of the reasons is because it's not licensed. Some have allergies and they've read the green book on this, their own risk assessments. Only reason I am aware is because their mates have contacted me asking me if I'm ok with being around them, which is depressing that they felt the need to mention it.

They are still travelling and doing the test option. Many club owners have already stated they won't be needing the passport. They have tickets already booked for opening nights and gigs, and have written confirmation the passport is not needed stating the reasons why.

Are you in the UK @Canigooutyet? The vaccines are licenced by MHRA in the UK so I’m guessing not, otherwise they have got things very wrong!

Yes I am in the UK, the vaccine were released under some emergency thing and they have not been licensed yet.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/conditions-of-authorisation-for-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca

To be fair it’s the MHRA that hasn’t authorised vax for under 18’s - not sure that’s Boris’ fault!
Pfizer has always been approved for 16+, and now for 12-15 years olds
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57358446

DD 23 had hers ASAP. DD 22 ( student) has recently had COVID, as have most of her cohort, so they've all had to wait 4 weeks after isolation. The high infection rates in student areas suggest there may be significant numbers affected across the country.

She had hers on the weekend and was knocked for six with Moderna, which the doc said was likely because of recent infection.

No idea what 'the norm' is.
Adult DC are keen (will both be fully jabbed by end of July).

[quote Canigooutyet]Yes I am in the UK, the vaccine were released under some emergency thing and they have not been licensed yet.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/conditions-of-authorisation-for-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca[/quote]
It's an emergency licence that's all, it's a red herring commonly quoted by anti-vaxxers. In particular:
"As provided in Regulation 174A(2) of the Human Medicine Regulations, the sale or supply of this vaccine will not be deemed to be licensed or approved under this Authorisation if the supply is for the purpose of any use other than the recommended or required use, or if a condition in this authorisation is breached (including the conditions of use incorporated into this Authorisation)

Yep all my DD’s friends and uni friends have had it. In their uni town uptake is extremely high. They are young adults who regularly travelled before the pandemic and have year abordas etc so unless they want to stay in England all the time (which they don’t) then they have to have it.

I actually live near a more deprived and as most there don’t regularly travel as they can’t afford it they don’t bother with the vaccine. Of course many young people get it due to health wanting to help herd immunity etc but undeniably foreign travel is a big pull for them and most older adults too.

I had my first a few weeks ago and it wiped me out completely for almost 2 weeks. It was Pfizer too and the second is meant to be worse so I’m a bit worried as my appointment is before very important university exams in September. I’ll still have it though - my partner was absolutely fine!

I was also sent this which was another interesting read. The person isn't an antivaxer, they have allergies had concerns and went hunting for info. They also sent me the green book chapter 14 link that has more details about licensing. It also explains more about allergies for this who have concerns.

www.bmj.com
www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-the-green-book-chapter-14a

Mines 21 and CV so was offered hers early and had the second one a few weeks ago. She suffers from anxiety so was thrilled to get it as it makes her safer from covid, thus reducing her anxiety about going out and about (to the supermarket and suchlike, not partying as she's not that type)

DS is 22 and he had the AZ vaccine back in March as he's a registered carer. In hindsight I wish we'd been able to get the Pfizer (more because I think it's a better vaccine and more useful for travel, than worries about the blood clotting issue). He was fine afterwards though, he never really gets ill.

DN is 17 and would be happy to get vaxxed if it was offered. I think people are just keen to get on with things and be able to access venues and travel.

All these young people rushing for it..I hope for their sakes there are no long term side effects. Alot of young lives at stake here. If my kids were at that age I would be telling them to not have it as so much unknown.