Double jabbed - how safe do you feel?

[PuzzledObserver]

Coverage in the press today about advice to employers being slimmed down - basically it will be up to them to do their own risk assessments and decide on policy in their premises. Also coverage (and a thread already) about Govt plans to make Covid passports compulsory for access to pubs, clubs and restaurants from the Autumn - to encourage take-up of vaccines among the young.

If you are double-jabbed - how safe do you feel and are there things you will still not do?

I am double-jabbed on top of having had Covid. I am happy to meet with small groups of people indoors, but keeping a reasonable distance. I will continue to avoid crowded and cramped places, and to wear a mask on public transport and in shops. The mask is more to protect others in the unlikely event that I am infected.

My logic is that Covid has more chance of overcoming my immunity if I’m exposed to a lot of it all at once, e.g. the crowded stuffy indoor setting, so that is to be avoided. Whereas a ‘glancing blow’ of Covid from a short exposure is unlikely to overcome my immunity. If anything, it will remind my immune system of who the enemy is, and strengthen it.

I feel very safe.

Having said that I've never been worried about Covid. Obviously with health/age privilege.

Anecdotally hearing about lots of double-vaccinated people catching it and being ill to greater or lesser degrees (including my ex-husband) has given me some pause, but it's never really been me I've been worried about (late 40s, good health).

@RedToothBrush

I'm currently having a quiet drink at the pub.

Im outside. We could have gone inside. We didn't.

For me its not so much about feeling safe or not. I don't feel like im going to die if i get covid.

Its more that i have a few events i really want to do in the next couple of weeks and we want to keep DS in school til the end of term.

I don't want to end up in isolation and miss out when i could consider what im doing in a better way.

Exactly.

I'm double-vaccinated, and I also had covid way back when it was a crazy kid with a big dream.

(For me it was like a bad, if weird, cold.)

I don't really equate the concept of 'safe' with how I feel, really. I think we've been conditioned to think about safety in a binary way things are either 'safe' or 'unsafe' but that doesn't chime with how I think about the world. I'd say that I feel confident now about presenting a low level of risk -- both as receptor and potential transmitter.

The things that I think feel much more risky about this whole situation are actually the political manoeuvrings and societal shifts, not the virus itself. (But that's not what you asked so I won't go into that here.)

With regard to the jabs, I feel that I've protected myself (and hopefully others) better than the NPIs that have been employed up to now. Surely vaccines are better than masks and unnatural physical distancing, when you factor in how human beings behave as a species.

I feel pretty safe but I'm 37 and low risk plus I'm double vaccinated (Pfizer - January & April, I'm NHS)

I'd probably wear a mask on the bus and wouldn't feel massively comfortable at a nightclub or gig but I'm happy to go to the pub/a restaurant/shopping etc mask-free and I can't wait to not have to wear it at work anymore!

Double jabbed but second dose was in March so worried about it wearing off now. I'm generally careful but might consider changing my behaviour to more cautious, especially now that restrictions are lifted completely

@polkadotpixie I think healthcare is an exception to the no mask rule but need it to be confirmed.

Double vaccinated with AZ, have been for weeks.

I don't feel particularly optimistic about not catching it because of the way other people carry on.

I'm a sole parent to two children with additional support needs. I have health conditions that make me CV but not in the extremely vulnerable category. It's not the risk of dying of covid that concerns me - I understand and acknowledge the odds are low - but the risk of potentially being out of action for a while, whilst being solely responsible for my children. The risk of developing Long Covid scares me, I can't cope with that on top of my existing issues.

I'll continue to keep a distance from people, definitely to wear a mask in enclosed places, and avoid crowds and busy places (which is my idea of hell anyway tbh)

Eldest child barely leaves the house, but wears a mask for appointments etc, and keeps distance.

Youngest is seeing a handful of friends, and keeping a distance when in shops etc. She can't wear a mask, unfortunately, so other people's behaviour concerns me for her. She's likely our biggest transmission risk as a household.

I'm double jabbed have been going into work in public transport for the last couple of months. Meeting with other people. I'm ready to take the mask off and get in with life. There's a lot of people saying they are scared on here - everyone I know is pretty much back to normal already so roll on the 19th

@vodkaredbullgirl

Safe enough, will still have to wear masks for work. Do lft twice a wk and pcr once a week.

Snap.

Both DC's are off isolating due to case within their bubble so have been doing LFT's every day.

Double jabbed - just had covid. Was lucky and only had very mild symptoms. The kids have been really very poorly though and 111 sent an ambulance to check the 11yr old over. Our double jabbed CEV 18yr old had fairly classic covid and is taking a while to get better but I'm holding onto the hope that it was the jab that prevented him from being hospitalised.

I was anxious about it last year. Late fifties, morbidly obese, diabetes - so still overwhelmingly likely to be fine, but enough risk factors to be prioritised for vaccination ahead of my age group.

I had Covid - the main effect was fatigue, although it doesn’t count as severe because I was able to get up and dressed. Couldn’t do much once I got there, for quite a few weeks - but am fine now.

I then stopped being anxious about catching it, on the logic that I was vanishingly unlikely to be more ill if I caught it again. Plus have now had both doses of vaccine.

However, the increasing numbers do concern me. Not so much because I might die/get long Covid, because I think that’s extremely unlikely. More that I would prefer not to throw caution to the wind if by doing that I become part of a chain which would pass it on to someone at higher risk.

Also really really do not want to catch it in the next two weeks as we move out of our house next week and are then in hotels for 11 days before moving into new place. A positive test now would really bugger things up, irrespective of any actual symptoms. No idea what we would do.

@Oblomov21 I'm more on your side of the argument, but I find that telling people to "get a grip" rarely results in a good outcome.

I felt safe. Then 2 months after jab 2 I had Covid. It was like a cold. Now I feel safer as have natural immunity as well!
I will be sensible which means masks in shops, public transport and at work. Hand sanitizer.
I will be enjoying the summer to the full- lots of meals out, UK holidays, theme parks etc.
I won’t be engaging with test and trace unless it’s someone known to me with whom I have spent significant time.

I’m beginning to feel less safe. I’m CEV after chemo so I was vaccinated a while ago now. I know a few families where the whole family now have it, after it was brought in by a school aged child. All have mild to moderate symptoms, but none of the classic 3. Lots of exhaustion and blinding headaches that go on for days. It seems that Delta is different, so further variants worry me most.

Apparently there is no link between severity of illness and long covid. You can have it mildly and still get long covid. Vaccination reduces risk by a third (apparently). I’d rather minimise my chances as far as I can while cases are high thanks.

I'm not jabbed and feel perfectly safe too

Myself and my double jabbed DH were released from isolation yesterday after catching Covid.My 4 kids caught it too.I still won't be going anywhere for a few days as I'm still coughing and frankly feel like I've been hit by a bus.

I am single jabbed, double jabbed in a few weeks and feel pretty safe.
I think people forget that even normal respiratory viruses can make you feel pretty rough. It's not unusual to end up in bed for a while unable to do much and sometimes symptoms can linger (glandular fever and whooping cough both stuck around for months for me).

If the vaccine reduces covid to the level of a heavy cold is unpleasant but shouldn't be frightening (appreciate for immunosuppressed people who have evidence that the vaccine may be less effective, it is still frightening).

Very. I tested positive for antibodies last year without even knowing when I'd had Covid, and have been fine recently when DH and both DS tested positive.

Not very ,still being very careful. Might feel differently when antibody test comes back.

Safe? not really, i don't believe the vaccines effectiveness is long lasting i.e years and there will be mutations that will be vaccine resistance.
It takes too long to administer them, to have annual ones for most people.

However, it is what is, i go out, would love to go abroad etc.

Can't let, that in all probability, even with no vaccines, would be a mild illness, shut you off from the world.

I'm mainly worried about long Covid and the debilitating effects of this potentially lasting a lifetime.

We’ve both been vaccinated twice. We’re pretty much back to pre-covid living. We’ve been to the pub, gone for coffees etc. It was either that or go crazy, I was close.