covid cases rising

[essexgirl58]

I just read online that cases are rising and the Government are going to review the situation on Monday to make a decision as to what to do on the 19th July and if despite this if they still continue to relax things finally on the 19th July then I will have lost all respect for this UK Governemtnt and Boris should be sacked immediately, together with the Health Minister

The final step of unlocking is expected to go ahead as planned on 19 July in England. It will be confirmed on 12 July after a review of data.

check your data hospitalisations and deaths have not flat lined they are rising albeit slowly -see bbc news website for figures and graphs

Anyone know why, for the last week or so, the 'hospital admissions' number on the government covid dashboard have been at least 4 days behind the positives and deaths (updated daily) and a day or two behind the number of tests?

It wasn't always like this - this graphs all used to be updated daily, or be no more than one day behind, so it isn't an underlying system issue with data collection, collation and publication.

I've always tended to believe in 'never assume conspiracy when cock up is an adequate explanation' but this timing is really making me wonder

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

I’ve read somewhere that Boris has been ‘spooked’ by it.

In what sense? That he is surprised that many people want it and is thinking about implementing it?!? Or is terrified at the effect all this has had and wants us all back to old normal ASAP to try and reduce the number of people who are clearly insane. 10pm curfew forever?!? I sometimes don't get home from work until 9, what the fuck?

So what? This is all part of the plan. We can cope with it, the NHS can cope.

Threads like this are just scaremongering and doom-mongering, which really get on my nerves. we all know that this is one of the best ways around it.

By how much people want masks to remain. It was in the Guardian ( not the poll, the spooked bit). I’ll try and find it.

Here it is. It was internal polling not that ipsos one.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/10/boris-johnson-may-tone-down-freedom-rhetoric-amid-reopening-jitters

You’d hope most people would be spooked by that. Who ARE the 19% of people who want a 10pm curfew forever?

Half of MN?

When you've got 50% of staff off sick or isolating then nhs and Care services can't cope- never-ending the numbers being admitted. The NHS and care sector are NOT coping.

You’d hope most people would be spooked by that. Who ARE the 19% of people who want a 10pm curfew forever?

I saw this the other day and it is 1- totally not reflective of the people I know and 2- fucking terrifying… 1 in 5 people think you shouldn’t be allowed out of your house after 10pm ever? What the fuck will that achieve? And if you don’t want to ever go out, go ahead and stay locked up. Terrifying that so many people think like this.

@tappitytaptap

I saw this the other day and it is 1- totally not reflective of the people I know and 2- fucking terrifying… 1 in 5 people think you shouldn’t be allowed out of your house after 10pm ever? What the fuck will that achieve? And if you don’t want to ever go out, go ahead and stay locked up. Terrifying that so many people think like this.

Proof that dangerous ideas can be more contagious than actual diseases.

I am guessing the one that's ghi k people should not be allowed our, after 10pm, forever probably felt that way before covid.

Probably nothing to do with the pandemic, for at least a larger portion fo them.

Isn't NHS pressure at the moment due to staff having to isolate? It's certainly not due to covid cases in hospital which are very low.

So if you were a surgical patient, or had had chemo or were frail, elderley, immunosuppressed, you'd be happy to be cared for by staff who despite close contact with a covid positive colleague didn't have to self isolate ? Really ?......

@NannyAndJohn

I'm just keeping everything crossed that England lose tomorrow so everyone slumps off to bed at 10pm instead of going on the lash infecting each other.

I am starting to feel sorry for you. Your life must be so utterly joyless and miserable. I genuinely hope you're just trolling.

The Guardian article linked above says "Two Whitehall sources told the Guardian that ministers had been spooked by internal polling. "

It doesn't say anything at all about Boris being spooked.

No indication of who the the ministers were, nor how many, nor who the "Whitehall sources" were - senior ministers? junior Civil Servants? a couple of cleaners? Dominic Cummings and a mate? Dilyn and Bailey?

@TheReluctantPhoenix

The vaccine rollout has not severed the link, it has reduced the constant. Hospitalisations are still directly proportional to infections, the constant has just reduced from about 0.1 to 0.02.

So, if we get a peak 5x the previous peak, hospitalisations will be the same. Additionally and positively, most hospital stays are shorter and fewer are moving to ICU.

But, infections are rising really fast and I am betting that they will have to lock down again at some point.

Agree with all this.

@Dreamer202

Cases rising locally has impacted my cloest hospital and I worry NHS will not cope. The hospital released a statement today informing that elective operations have been postponed since yday due to sharp rise in covid admissions / stressing A&E under extreme pressure and they have also taken decision to pause visiting!

What part of the country please put of interest?

@Cosybelles

Isn't NHS pressure at the moment due to staff having to isolate? It's certainly not due to covid cases in hospital which are very low.

I read somewhere (think sky breaking news in the morning) that the nhs was concerned as the cases of hospitalisations and people being admitted for covid was rising just as fast as the number of positive cases now.

Army have been drafted in to drive ambulances and do non-clinical stuff in our nearest hospital (East London) due to so many staff being ill/ self isolating. I feel like this is likely to become an issue if cases keep rising as they are.

@NannyAndJohn

I'm just keeping everything crossed that England lose tomorrow so everyone slumps off to bed at 10pm instead of going on the lash infecting each other.

Are you trying to win an award for the most miserable person on the planet?

I read somewhere (think sky breaking news in the morning) that the nhs was concerned as the cases of hospitalisations and people being admitted for covid was rising just as fast as the number of positive cases now

Even a weakened link between cases and hospital admissions becomes worrying if the numbers become very large.

The government's covid dashboard only shows number of hospital admissions up to 6 July (figures for positive tests and for deaths are both today's date, 10/07) I find this concerning as hospitalisations lag 2-ish weeks behind positive tests anyhow, but adding another half week by letting the reporting get out of step seems odd just ahead of Monday's expected announcement (it's not usually behind)

We could be in for a rough ride, and it's deliberate. They want to be a big summer wave (in the totally unscientific hope that this might avert a winter one)

Heaven help the vulnerable, because it looks as if the government won't, not will all the people who fell for the Great Barrington Declaration first time round