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To wonder why people are still breaking covid rules?

128 replies

rijks · 09/07/2021 17:08

I was outside earlier and I heard my neighbours son ask his dad if he could go to the shop, his dad said he didn't know as they're isolating and the boy told him he feels fine now and his dad let him go!

He’d be coming into contact with the cashier and other people in the shop, potentially vulnerable people.

Aibu to wonder why people still don't get it? In July 2021!

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RevelWithRebels · 09/07/2021 23:25

I haven't been breaking the rules and I am looking forward to all the rules being lifted.

I don't feel as scared as I did. Last year I lost three friends to Covid. Two were elderly with other serious health conditions, one was a very healthy man in his fifties. I also knew two other middle aged men who spent a few weeks in hospital on oxygen with Covid. It was a horrible time and all of these people caught it when we were in lockdown with more restrictions than we have now.

But since January I don't know anyone who has had to go to hospital with covid. I know lots of families who have tested positive in the last 6 months, but thankfully, they have mostly been a bit ill for a week and then got better.

I know that is anecdotal but from what I can see, the vaccine is working really well. And it makes me feel safer

XenoBitch · 09/07/2021 23:28

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

The average level of intelligence on this “totally normal” island is pretty low. And half the population are of below average intelligence. That’s why so many are breaking the rules, just full on thickos.
I broke the rules during last lockdown to keep myself safe.. nothing to do with intelligence at all. And some people break self isolation rules because if they don't they lose their job and therefore their home. But yeah, they are thick too.
MercyBooth · 09/07/2021 23:59

@MilkTwoSugarsThanks This is whats really got to me throughout this whole thing. DH has COPD and flu could be dangerous for him but no one gave a shit before.
The cognitive dissonance is stark.

SpringRainbow · 10/07/2021 02:17

Because it was unlikely that people would stick to ‘the rules’ forever.

Even less likely when those people making ‘the rules’ can’t even stick to them.

Plus the never ending ‘super spreader’ events we have had going on recently.

I seriously cannot see us ever getting the compliance we got with the first lockdown ever again.

Tealightsandd · 10/07/2021 02:33

I seriously cannot see us ever getting the compliance we got with the first lockdown ever again.

I can.

GreenWheat · 10/07/2021 03:40

Oh yawn. You don't actually know what he was referring to in the snippet of conversation you heard. And as PP have said it isn't that people "still don't get it" it's that this isolation nonsense is ending soon and people are moving on. Maybe you should too?

ChocOrange1 · 10/07/2021 04:53

@garlictwist

Most people have NOT been (double) vaccinated at all.
86.8% have had one jab 65.3% have had two

The ones who have had two, are the ones most likely to be affected by covid.

What is your definition of "most"?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/07/2021 08:26

Covid symptoms could be anything. Ridiculous to expect people to isolate over every sniffle.

Exactly. I have hay fever and I cough, sneeze, have a scratchy throat and sound as though my nose is permanently blocked. Im not isolating every time the pollen count goes up! Summer is miserable enough for me as it is without adding isolation!

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 10/07/2021 08:34

Whole year bubbles isolating has always been madness . Test the child, if negative, carry on
Thousands of children and people WITHOUT covid having to stay indoors.
OP are you aware how this works ? Parents of the isolated child can go to work and siblings are allowed to go to school , so in theory they have already spread it if he had it .
Thank God this madness will end in a couple of weeks.

jasjas1973 · 10/07/2021 08:39

@ChocOrange1

Those %'s are of adults, not the pop. and are of people offered a vaccination, vaccinations are also around 90% effective at preventing serious illness, not that very effective at stopping one from getting Cv (based on personal experience)

sadperson16 · 10/07/2021 08:42

Because the rules are a nonsense

Indeed

sadperson16 · 10/07/2021 08:44

How about we list some stupidities.......I'll start.

Filling in a track and trace outside a cafe in the rain, the rain smudged the pen . Therefore the number was illegible. Absolute nonsense.

SpringRainbow · 10/07/2021 08:57

@Tealightsandd

I seriously cannot see us ever getting the compliance we got with the first lockdown ever again.

I can.

If businesses shut or require you to wear a mask/ socially distance then really people have no choice but to comply. People will do the things they have no choice to do.

However, I cannot see much compliance with people keeping away from friends/ family. So regardless of the rules I cannot see much compliance happening in private homes/ gardens. Even meeting up outside/ going for walks etc. I think they’ll have a tough job keeping people apart from loved ones.

There was already less compliance here with the last lockdown. Even now despite the restrictions in place most people are socialising in private homes how they see fit.

I can’t see compliance socialising with family and friends ever going back to how it was in the first lockdown.

bullockstoit · 10/07/2021 08:57

I'm struggling with all this to be honest. I can totally see why people aren't following some rules yet at the same time feel like I sometimes think less of them for it.... and still feel that I need to follow the rules!

I'm keeping my isolating children at home, but feel so cross about it when tens of thousands of people can get together for sporting events! Around 200 pupils from my child's school year isolating due to 4 positive cases. It's madness.

Sparechange · 10/07/2021 08:59

@sadperson16

How about we list some stupidities.......I'll start.

Filling in a track and trace outside a cafe in the rain, the rain smudged the pen . Therefore the number was illegible. Absolute nonsense.

Here is another: The pub near me does takeaway pints You can buy one of these, sit on the wall outside or the grassy area next door and not have to complete their track and trace Or, you can sit outside on a picnic bench in the garden next to the wall or next to the grassy bit and if you don’t fill in track and trace, the pub will get fined

Same pub during lockdown wasn’t allowed to sell takeaway pints that hadn’t been ordered

So you walked up to the door, texted the number stuck to the door and the bloke stood next to the door read the text then went inside and handed over your order. All totally legal

But walking up to the door and …
Illegal, virus spreading, risky

Even though the text system meant people hanging out with each other looking confused for much longer, 2 queues forming, people in closer proximity for longer etc

SilverGlitterBaubles · 10/07/2021 09:02

An interesting insight into what's really happening with checking of LF tests for those entering Wembley 🙄

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/tom-swarbrick/wembley-stewards-shocking-tale-of-fan-fake-test-results-to-get-into-matches/

ButteringMyArse · 10/07/2021 09:06

Not sure why they use the term 'shocking' here, because it was entirely predictable. To this I'd add, there will be people who have genuinely got their own LFT result rather than someone else's but just haven't done it properly.

Cosybelles · 10/07/2021 09:11

It feels like the official rule changes just move the guidance in line with what most people are doing anyway. It's more difficult to conform with what feel like pointless restrictions when all the large gatherings for sports are going on at the moment.

LucilleTheVampireBat · 10/07/2021 09:15

[quote MercyBooth]@MilkTwoSugarsThanks This is whats really got to me throughout this whole thing. DH has COPD and flu could be dangerous for him but no one gave a shit before.
The cognitive dissonance is stark.[/quote]
Exactly this, I can't put into words how much I agree!

My nephew has incredibly complex disabilities. A bog standard cold can put him in hospital. Nobody gave one single shiny shite about people like him before covid, and they'll go back to not giving a shite when this is over. The afraid are using people like him to hide behind, pretending they care about "the vulnerable" but actually the fear is for themselves.

ButteringMyArse · 10/07/2021 09:27

I agree. To which I'd add, the vulnerable include multiple cohorts, not all of whom are CEV and some of whom suffer because of restrictions. Never hear the people you're talking about bother about any of them either.

Doublestar · 10/07/2021 10:24

It's people like him that are why my family of five are currently all poorly with Covid.

Or maybe it's because it's a virus, doing what viruses do - they infect people.
Maybe your dc caught it from one of the (probably many) people in school (possibly even a teacher) who was asymptomatic?

"People like him"? Honestly!

rosie39forever · 10/07/2021 11:03

People are told they can't go to their kids school sports day and stand in the open air socially distanced for a couple of hours yet they can go to Wembley or Wimbledon and pack in with a hundred thousand strangers, that's not confusing at all is it? No wonder everyone's given up.
Basically as a rule of thumb if it doesn't make money you can't do it, if it make a shit tonne for the exchequer then have at!

Sparklingbrook · 10/07/2021 11:05

@rosie39forever

People are told they can't go to their kids school sports day and stand in the open air socially distanced for a couple of hours yet they can go to Wembley or Wimbledon and pack in with a hundred thousand strangers, that's not confusing at all is it? No wonder everyone's given up. Basically as a rule of thumb if it doesn't make money you can't do it, if it make a shit tonne for the exchequer then have at!
No, some schools have taken the decision not to invite parents to sports days. There is no blanket rule from the Government. Some schools went ahead with Sports Days and invited parents along-I saw posts on here from many that did.
Turkishangora · 10/07/2021 11:09

@LucilleTheVampireBat your post is spot on. People are engaging in glorified virtue signalling banging on about the vulnerable when all they're concerned about is themselves. I've pretty much fallen out with a friend over this she's accused me of being "selfish" as I don't have the NHS app. Her and her partner are only concerned about themselves, esp her partner. Neither of them are in the vulnerable category and I'm sick of the likes of them with their fearmongering keeping the rest of us locked up. No one gave a shit about me when I was pregnant when the swine flu outbreak was on, even though I was classed as high risk. It's utter bullshit.

PlateSpinnerJuggler · 10/07/2021 11:12

Lots of comments that rules being lifted in couple weeks anyway...
Firstly we aren't there yet - which is them not now as more will be vaccinated and secondly I don't think isolation is lifted til another month +