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Will you feel more or less confident to 'go back to normal' on the 19th July?

199 replies

User135644 · 09/07/2021 08:56

Take holidays out the equation for the purpose of the thread. It's more in terms of day-to-day life and socialising etc.

Personally, i've enjoyed going to pubs and restaurants etc recently and catching up with friends again. Any socialising will run the risk with the virus, but there's measures in place to mitigate that risk.

Now, I know we need to go back to normal and businesses need to operate properly. However, the way the government have gone about it with letting the variant run riot in the build up. Dropping masks in schools and now altogether from the 19th, an end to social distancing altogether. It's basically eat out to help out on steroids in terms of spreading Covid and could be counter productive for hospitality by autumn.

Basically, are you thinking sod it, i'm going to catch it I might as well get on with things, or 'i'm going to roll back on what i'm doing now' (pubs/restaurants etc)? . We're paying the price for just how badly this whole thing has been handled. Neither are ideal.

OP posts:
littlepeas · 09/07/2021 10:59

Honestly, I will take every freedom that I’m allowed at this stage.

HeronLanyon · 09/07/2021 11:10

Double jabbed here.
Feel as though just as things were starting to get back to normal (ish) complete lack of safeguards feels wrong. I am very much less likely to eat out now. Absolutely no interest in mixing in close proximity with loads of people. No interest in getting Covid whether full blown or lesser with risks of long Covid symptoms. Were being thrown to the wolves it feels and I understand it is to save hospitality industry still think it’s wrong. Tend to follow scientists and medical professionals and the vast majority are clear that this is a recipe for health disaster for many hundreds of thousands.

Egghead68 · 09/07/2021 11:58

The sad thing too is it’s likely to harm the economy it’s supposed to be helping as many people will be staying away from pubs/restaurants/theatres etc.

But the government knows best…

User135644 · 09/07/2021 12:02

@HeronLanyon

Double jabbed here. Feel as though just as things were starting to get back to normal (ish) complete lack of safeguards feels wrong. I am very much less likely to eat out now. Absolutely no interest in mixing in close proximity with loads of people. No interest in getting Covid whether full blown or lesser with risks of long Covid symptoms. Were being thrown to the wolves it feels and I understand it is to save hospitality industry still think it’s wrong. Tend to follow scientists and medical professionals and the vast majority are clear that this is a recipe for health disaster for many hundreds of thousands.
Best thing they could do for hospitality if they insist on opening up fully, is to keep masks on public transport and in shops and keep working from home.

There needs to be a trade off.

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Justarandompersonontheinternet · 09/07/2021 12:11

After the 10 days of hell I’ve just been in, I’m not going anywhere. I’d love to know where I caught covid from in the first place. Most likely the supermarket. It’s no joke and easy to say “get back to normal” when you haven’t felt like you were at death’s door.

LucilleTheVampireBat · 09/07/2021 12:15

@Waxonwaxoff0

Yep, I'm doing what I want. Couldn't care less if I catch Covid and never have done.
Same here.
shewalkslikerihanna · 09/07/2021 12:20

Can’t wait to get back to normal
Bring it on
Those that are worried take it easy till you’ve built up your confidence

screwcovid · 09/07/2021 12:21

Going back to normal if people want to continue being careful fine but I am double jabbed my mental health has taken a dip so can't wait

screwcovid · 09/07/2021 12:24

@Iggly

Nope. I haven’t had my second jab (under 40).

It’s the removal of masks and social distancing which is my issue. This government literally doesn’t give a shit about people who aren’t in the same category as them personally (mainly men of a certain age who are oblivious to things like schools, childcare, the elderly etc).

What about business that cannot operate with all these restrictions
shewalkslikerihanna · 09/07/2021 12:24

@HeronLanyon
Tend to follow scientists and medical professionals

I watched the dr Mike yeadon , ex Vice President of Pfizer video yesterday
He’s a virioligist and spike a lot of sense

screwcovid · 09/07/2021 12:28

@Justarandompersonontheinternet

After the 10 days of hell I’ve just been in, I’m not going anywhere. I’d love to know where I caught covid from in the first place. Most likely the supermarket. It’s no joke and easy to say “get back to normal” when you haven’t felt like you were at death’s door.
I have had it and want to live and not live to be scared of dying I am double jabbed now
knittingaddict · 09/07/2021 12:28

@SoSadAboutMyDad

Nope! We will be extra careful. Only eating outside, outdoor attractions, masks, no public transport etc. I don’t want my family caught up in this shitty government’s next wave.
This sums up my attitude. I don't trust this government to make the right decision, so I will take a wait and see stance and protect myself as much as possible.
knittingaddict · 09/07/2021 12:30

[quote shewalkslikerihanna]@HeronLanyon
Tend to follow scientists and medical professionals

I watched the dr Mike yeadon , ex Vice President of Pfizer video yesterday
He’s a virioligist and spike a lot of sense[/quote]
No, no, no. Dr MY is an out and out nutcase conspiracy theorist. If you meant your post to be in good faith then look him up and see for yourself. Don't go down that rabbit hole.

knittingaddict · 09/07/2021 12:36

My last post was pointless I see as shewalkslikerihanna is obviously a follower of Michael Yeadon already. I would have more time for some people if they would post some vaguely credible source.

Sparrowsong · 09/07/2021 12:39

No! Less confident as a result. I am not vaccinated on advice from a consultant and on immune suppressants. I am at risk of complications and long covid. My life will get even smaller.

Sparrowsong · 09/07/2021 12:40

I won’t be going anywhere now. Just outside things.

redcarbluecar · 09/07/2021 12:47

I feel that things are already pretty much back to normal. I’d prefer the restrictions we have now to stay in place for a bit longer, or at least be eased out gradually without this ‘freedom day’ drama, and I think we’re being unnecessarily gung-ho (and premature) about discarding masks, but I’m doing most of what I want to do right now.

namechange90832 · 09/07/2021 12:48

No health concerns in our family so no reason to be worried. We'd have carried on as normal from last March (if it was just about us, which of course it isn't!) don't understand why otherwise healthy people would be worried, especially now vaccinated.

HelloMissus · 09/07/2021 12:53

You’re going to get loads of people who are very cautious here. They always have been. But it’s just the same posters saying the same thing.
Meanwhile back in the real world, 60,000 of us will be heading to Wembley on Sunday.

Watercoloursky · 09/07/2021 12:55

[quote shewalkslikerihanna]@HeronLanyon
Tend to follow scientists and medical professionals

I watched the dr Mike yeadon , ex Vice President of Pfizer video yesterday
He’s a virioligist and spike a lot of sense[/quote]
Yeadon hasn't worked for Pfizer for 10 years (he lost his job when they wound up the programme he was working on in 2011), so I'll take his insights into their work with a large pinch of salt.

Interesting article about him here, where some of his former colleagues say they don't recognise him now - I wonder what happened to him in the intervening years?

“We have become acutely aware of your views on COVID-19 over the last few months … the single mindedness, lack of scientific rigour and one sided interpretation of often poor quality data is far removed from the Mike Yeadon we so respected and enjoyed working with.”

www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

GirlAloud · 09/07/2021 13:00

I was very cautious before I was vaccinated but now, having had both doses, I’m much less anxious. I have also deleted the Covid app because it would be completely pointless for me to have to self-isolate.

For us double-jabbers, it’s time to get back to normal. Smile

userperuser · 09/07/2021 13:01

I wonder what happened to him in the intervening years?

He set up a pharmaceutical company called Ziarco with 3 other former Pfizer employees.

givemushypeasachance · 09/07/2021 13:03

Well look at it this way - if there's 100k cases a day, several million people will develop covid over the summer holiday period. I would prefer not to be one of those people if possible. I'm getting my second jab next week so I won't be fully vaccinated till the end of July/beginning of August. I know of several double jabbed people who've had positive PCRs and symptoms recently. As much as anything I don't want to get it and pass it on to other people.

I've felt pretty much fine in shops when there are precautions - people generally keeping their distance, mostly wearing masks. I'm in an office today where there are just a handful of people. Once it's "back to normal" and the office is full and there's someone sat within touching distance of me, and we go and sit in a stuffy meeting room for an hour or two - that's inviting the sharing of any covid going around. I will be less keen then but hey "freedom day" right...

Gah81 · 09/07/2021 13:03

Single jabbed and will be wearing masks and taking it easy for a while. Though still mingling with friends outside and going on public transport where necessary. I will be on public transport less than I would have been had we been taking it more cautiously beyond July 19.

I don't care much about dying from Covid (no kids) but I do care about potentially getting Long Covid. I know a few too many people with it not to be alarmed at the impact it might have on my being able to continue to do the job and live the life I love.

beentoldcomputersaysno · 09/07/2021 13:11

Less confident as cases so high and all restrictions being removed. Will roll back on most things that aren't outside. Glad to see the news on kids risk of dying today, but still nervous about long covid and organ damage etc in all age groups. My DS bubble has burst and it seems mad that he is isolating given what I've read about reducing sensitivity on nhs app today. Everything seems a bit arse about face!

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