Half vaxxed friends getting Delta

[Porridgeislife]

Has anyone had a notable uptick in friends getting Delta over the last week? I’ve now got 4 friends infected - one very sick (full week off work), two a bit under the weather and one only found out due to a PCR for foreign travel.

We are all mid to late 30s so half vaxxed with Pfizer or Moderna. One has a fully vaxxed mother & husband who haven't been infected whilst her unvaccinated young children have. All working from home and have been for 15 months.

I’ve been quite relaxed about Covid and just taking the usual masks, hands, space precautions suggested by the government (given my age) plus got vaccinated as soon as allowed. However throughout it all, I’ve never had so many friends sick at once - it seems Delta is much, much more contagious?

@BabyDubsEverywhere

How do you find out what variant you have? Just wondering as my DS has covid (no symptoms at all but positive lateral and PCR tests) but we weren't told whether its the delta version or otherwise.

I was wondering this. I thought they just told you if you are positive or negative not the variant.

There is a huge difference between what people (including the op) describe as quite sick and what we in hospitals mean!
Quite sick to public means staying in bed, struggling to manage cooking, activities etc. Quite sick to me (anaesthetist) means possibly needing ventilation. Thank goodness that the vaccines are preventing this - even if it’s still fairly unpleasant for those who get it

Yes, they're going down like flies in my neighborhood. (Am in one of the 'dark spots' on the map). Lost count of the number of friends who are now sick or having to self isolate - lots of holidays ruined.

[quote Katie517]@changingstages plenty of people love lockdown, they enjoy being told what to do and love the opportunity to virtue signal to anyone who even dares believe that our response to covid has been an over reaction. It’s like a religious cult to some people and it’s rife on here! They are usually people that had very little going on in their lives pre covid and get some sort of enjoyment seeing others forced to live the way they do!

For what it’s worth I haven’t heard of any one with covid in this “wave” and non of our local schools have had bubbles close over the last month or so (south midlands with below average case rates and high vaccine take up)[/quote]
I just find it so hard to believe anyone is really, really living their lives like that away from social media. I'm pro-mask, pro-vax, very cautious etc etc but lockdown has been soul destroying and much of my stance comes from really wanting us to move on. I've never met anyone in real life who loves lockdown, absolutely the opposite.

But then, I suppose, I've never met anyone in real life who is on the extreme other end of the spectrum either, apart from the guy a few weeks ago who was screaming in my face to take my mask off. And I'm pretty sure he was drunk.

how do you know its delta?

DTDs both tested positive - one on Friday and one this morning. Both in seperate classes at school. DTD1 - the one that tested positive on Friday - there are at least 10 cases in her class Inc her. DTD2 - took her for a PCR test this afternoon and despite negative lat flow tests for me, DH and DS, we all took a PCR too. DH and I both double vaxxed so we shall see what happens

5 friends and relations of mine who’ve been double vaccinated have had covid in the last month

@Dustyboots

The double vaxxed colleague was very unwell so although that was a bit scary I guess it's good in a way as presumably he would have been even more unwell without the vaccination.

This mentality strikes me as brainwashed.

Sorry - whoever posted it. I"m not attacking you. I've read it so many times and it seems such a nonsense. It's a way of pacifying ourselves.

What's brainwashed about it? Vaccines were never claimed to stop people catching it, but to reduce serious illness, hospitalisation and death. Sure some people who were low risk anyway would have not been overly poorly even without the jabs, but I doubt they're worse off for having them.

Are you sure that all are double vaxxed etc? I wonder because the reality is that few hospital cases are being reported as vaccinated and very few double vaccinated (and those are more likely to be the elderly or ill with lower immune responses). We live in a covid hotspot and I know plenty of positive kids and young people but barely any older people and no-one double.vaccinated.

Yet on MN half the vaccinated people seem to be getting sick and at death's door. It seems odd, and to either play into the hands of the lockdown fanatics or the vaccine refusers, or maybe a bit of both...

Double jabs with Pfizer = 88%
Double jabbed with AZ = 60%

@StarCat2020

Double jabs with Pfizer = 88% Double jabbed with AZ = 60%

What's that?

Double jabs with Pfizer = 88%
Double jabbed with AZ = 60%

Are those people getting positive results? Or what?

@StarCat2020

Double jabs with Pfizer = 88% Double jabbed with AZ = 60%

Double jabbed with Pfizer in Israel = 64% effective against Delta according to a report out today, so perhaps the PHE figures are a bit optimistic (or the longer interval between D1&2 here is more protective).

How uncanny. Don't know anyone recently who's been positive as don't know people who test if not ill.

Pinched from a reddit board Effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccines in Canada.

www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.28.21259420v1

Single dose protection from symptomatic disease (delta strain):
Pfizer; 56%
Moderna; 72%
AstraZeneca; 67%
Single dose protection from hospitalisation or death (delta strain):
Pfizer; 76%
Moderna; 96%
AstraZeneca; 88%
Two dose protection from symptomatic disease (delta strain):
Pfizer; 87%

(sample size too small for AZ, Moderna)

92-96% reduction in hospitalisation with the vaccines. That’s amazing. It means your risk of needing hospital if you catch covid is reduced by about 95% from what it was - ie already low if you’re a healthy 30 something.

I have heard that there hasn’t been a death of a vaccinated under 50yr since Feb

From Public Health England (and confirmed by other sources):

• the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is 96% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses
• the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is 92% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses

The Zoe app came up with a breakdown of the vaccination status of people who had tested positive. If scaled up for the whole population it goes something like this.

Your chance of having a new positive Covid result on the specific day concerned (last week or the week before) was:

no vaccines: 1 in 1,130
1 vaccine: 1 in 2,950
2 vaccines: 1 in 16,250

People really, really need to get their 2nd jabs as soon as offered. (The 2 vaccine people were two weeks after the 2nd vaccine.)

Re pp's question about how you know you've got Delta - you don't, but 95%+ of sequenced cases now are Delta, so you probably have.

Oh yes, just seen about the Israel situation. Will be interesting to see if the situation varies in couple tries with longer time between imms.

“Couple trees”?! Wtf! “Countries”.

I have a friend who is double vexed, only just turned 50, very fit and no underlying health conditions and he's currently in hospital with breathing difficulties after testing positive last week

Vaxxed - sorry no edit button

My adult ds has it, most of the group of six people he socialised with last week have it, my friends husband potentially has it ( has symptoms ) so yes of people I have heard of there seems to be a lot of young people getting poorly with it.

@GreenPlantPot

I also know quite a few people in the same situation. I’m surprised how many people aren’t aware that you can still catch it - even after the double vaccination. I have heard “I have a cough but I’m double vaccinated so it can’t be Covid” a couple of times, it’s worrying

A LOT of people seem to think a double jab makes you immune. It doesn't. It also doesn't stop you from spreading it to others.

Delta in both of my children's school and bubbles burst, none of the infected children very ill, just mild.
Partner's ex wife double vaccinated has ot and very mild. 2 young adults in contact with her have it and one mild and one flu like and in bed recovering. Neither of them vaccinated though.
Quite a mix.
None serious enough for hospital.