40-somethings fucked again (no booster)

[HJ40]

Too old for Pfizer, too young for a booster. Yet again feeling like we're bottom of the pile.

@Bluntness100 that's the point. I'm still waiting for my second vaccine!!

I noticed that BunsyGirl.

I'm under 50 but have asthma and other things. So as Im on flu jab list will get both.

Arent some carers on flu jab list too? Will it be all those eligible? I remember how group 6 and flu jab list were quite different.

"If you aren’t offered one it’s because you don’t need one." Hmm. I'd say it's more that the risk calculation is that the NHS won't fall over if some menopausal women get long Covid or we or our husbands end up in ICU, because the numbers aren't big enough. I get that, on a population level. It's no great comfort on an individual level.

They may offer boosters to others at fee similarly to the flu vaccine

@Bluntness100

I'm trying to be positive and look on the bright sides, but I'm fed up of constantly being on the cusp and falling on the 'worse' side of things

Gosh. If this is you trying to be positive, I’d be concerned what you’d be like if you let yourself go.

Is there a back story? Do you suffer from anxiety or hyochondria?

Oh come off it . I’m 49 , I won’t get a booster but my husband that is 50 will . We had our vaccinations 2 days apart. Are you really that dense that you don’t understand what the OP is saying.

@HJ40 - my dm in her late 70s had the AZ vaccine. She bloody well needs a booster before I do, for her own and the country’s benefit. You’re just annoyed at the slightly unfortunate timing of jabs and the Delta variant, meaning 40-somethings had to have AZ as a first dose, and then had to rush to get dose 2 of the AZ before a decision has been made on mixing vaccines, so consequently now look like they will end up less well protected in the Autumn than younger people who in general need the protection less than they do. There is no deliberate picking on middle aged people going on, it’s just that decisions have to be made on the back of the best data available, and the vaccines available, at the time they are made. And the AZ vaccine, and having already been fully vaccinated, is massively better than no vaccine, or only having had one dose of a 2-dose vaccine at this point in time.

It's no great comfort on an individual level.

All kinds of things have the potential to get you. At this age I doubt Covid even makes the top 5.

Lady, what are you on about? Statistically you are least likely to be at risk of serious consequences of anything (unless you have aggravating medical issues). So why should you be prioritised? The rules aren’t invented to disadvantage you. It’s public health policy. You are where you are because of other, more serious considerations. Do you want to be more vulnerable?

Some posters have totally misunderstood the OP.

Over 40s were considered 'at risk' enough from covid to justify taking the risk with AstraZeneca (cut off age 40)

But not 'at risk' enough when it comes to boosters. It's a valid point of view.

Those aged over 40 are more likely to be caring for grandchildren and elderly parents. They should feel valued, not dispensable.

I had mine before dp, I'm a carer

@PoseyFlump but everyone loses out in some way

I was at risk enough to have my vaccine pretty early not earlier than my parents and I had to shield when they didn't
But I got AZ at 37 because it was before the advice changed
Yes I'll get a booster but I'll need it as I don't know whether I'll have any antibodies

CEV children have lost out totally as no vaccine and everyone is going back to normal life when they still need to be heavily protected

From the BBC article:

Younger adults will be not be given a third dose, because they will only have had their second dose in the summer, although this decision will be revisited at a later time, the JCVI said.

They will do the more vulnerable (i.e. older and CEV) people first. Even within that, they are stratified into two groups. And once they are well on with those, they will decide whether under 50’s need a booster.

just to say i was on group 6 but im not on the flu jab list-im 46

The reason we’re not being offered it is because we don’t need it.

Tbh , as someone who works in the vaccine hubs we are struggling to get the 40s/30s to take a 2nd dose never mind a 3rd

@PawsQueen I don't disagree with that. Some people are in a desperately sad situation. But if you're going to calculate risk to set guidelines then it should at least be consistent else people will think those in charge don't know what they're doing and are making it up as they go along.

But those of us that need a flu jab should at least be given the option to pay for a covid booster.
I pay for a flu jab because I can't lone parent ill. All hell breaks loose.

@Wellbythebloodyhell

Tbh , as someone who works in the vaccine hubs we are struggling to get the 40s/30s to take a 2nd dose never mind a 3rd

Of which vaccine? AstraZeneca or all types?

I’ve just had second this will be long after first people vaccinated

Why would we need it so soon again?

I would definitely pay for a Covid booster this Winter if I could. I'd be happy to get longer protection and it would help fund the national programme.
I'm not on the flu jab list yet but paid for that this last Winter, as it seemed the sensible thing to do.

*which vaccine? AstraZeneca or all types?

Any!

@ARoseDowntown

Lady, what are you on about? Statistically you are least likely to be at risk of serious consequences of anything (unless you have aggravating medical issues). So why should you be prioritised? The rules aren’t invented to disadvantage you. It’s public health policy. You are where you are because of other, more serious considerations. Do you want to be more vulnerable?

I'm not asking to be prioritised. I'm fed up of constantly falling just outside the boundaries of data based calculations. Calculations which aren't based on the best interests of me as an individual, but of the bigger picture. I know that. But it doesn't mean I can't be frustrated by it.

Plus with regards to timings, those in their early 40s are currently receiving their second doses. So by my maths, in six months time we will still be in the depths of winter. But don't need a booster?

How long does it last?

Do we know yet

@DGFB "Immunity doesn’t wane after six months. It’s that the current study only has results at the six month point showing excellent protection. More data is coming. Andrew Pollard from Oxford thinks protection will last far longer than that"
Ah that's reassuring to here. Let's hope so.

And yes, we know we could be run over by a bus or whatever and we have to risk assess. We do. But it's not irrational to be concerned about, not just the small but present risk of death in your late 40s if you catch Covid, but about who looks after your kids, family members you care for, your partner with a health condition, the cat dog and budgie, if Covid puts you in hospital. Or about long Covid. My stoical, never sick, keep going through everything life throws DM got post-viral fatigue at not quite 50, many years ago now. She had to stop working. She was a single parent, I was still in school. She never fully recovered. I don't fancy long Covid much. Women our age are a risk group for it.

*hear