Son's year group off again???!!!

[ForeverSausages]

Year 1. Came out of self isolation on Tuesday. Just had a message again to say year 1 has to self isolate again. They've not told me when self isolation ends which is great. Is this normal? I'm losing my mind over the constant lack of education and unpaid time off work.

@ForeverSausages I completely feel your pain - it's madness, the mantra that they can do the work independently, and just hand in what they've done after an hour - in the case of today's video task that would have been absolutely nothing, not because she hadn't done anything but because you can't hand in half a recording which is on a device that won't connect with the laptop.

@ForeverSausages feeling your pain. My reception aged dd is off again this week - my son had only been back at nursery for 4 days before she was put in isolation . I can wfh and flexibly so am relatively lucky but it's still a total pain. Definitely requires adult help for most tasks. Luckily she is pretty smart so we just try to get through it all in a couple of hours and then she watches tv while I work...

pretty pissed off to see 45000 people at Wembley but my pcr tested negative daughter can't leave the house for 10 days in case it causes a spike of infections tbh.

Teachers are way more exposed in schools due to the enclosed nature of teaching
Schools are already closing due to lack of staff.

@WaverleyPirate

Teachers are exposed but I wouldn’t say they were “way” more exposed than other professions. I’ve provided personal care to service users with an active covid infection, and they are unable to wear PPE. On the whole most of us contracted covid at work back in January. Social care workers aren’t as noisy as teachers though. They do tend to just get on with the job in hand. We do it for our service users too. Teachers come across as much more precious.

If you’re young and not CV then your risk at being exposed is the same as everyone else’s in certain professions.

Maybe they will stop moaning in September after they have all been double jabbed.

Social care workers also got vaccinated as a priority.

I do wonder how they will cope come September when they actually have to do some work.

This is rude. Teachers have been working throughout. We worked face to face with no PPE seeing upwards of 150 students per day in non ventilated rooms. Lots of my colleagues also had covid and some still have long covid.

Teachers have never been a vaccine priority. I'd have loved to have a vaccine in January and be double protected. I bet I'm exposed to more covid risk than you now. You and your patients will have all been vaccinated. Kids haven't.

You can assume it's 10 days, although my son's class was only isolated for 7 days.

@ForeverSausages

We have a PDF sent round in the morning and I have to teach him a full days lessons.

Also I'm not sure what you mean about me ire being misdirected @Barbie222? Genuinely asking. I think it's odd that an entire year is a bubble and that staff, pupils and parent's not having to wear masks. And, yes, I do wish track & trace hadn't worked (that's me being brutally honest because I'm now trying to work out how to be a teacher and also not pay rent this month).

Why are you having to be a teacher? DS2's class had online classes all week. 9-3.

It’s a complete nightmare.
Schools insisting on pcr tests for as much as a snotty nose. So for larger families this means the entire family has to isolate any time someone needs a pcr test. Which in large families, means practically every week, given that even a sniffle
I could potentially be some new covid variant. Currently, delta. Given that most people
I know diagnosed had cold like symptoms minus the cough. I’m losing the will I really am 🙁

Why are you having to be a teacher? DS2's class had online classes all week. 9-3

But you know not all schools are the same, right?
Between my 2 primary aged children they have had fewer than 10 live lessons each over the course of 2 school closures and 2 isolations.

I have a year 6 and they've never had an isolation and I mean never. I thought it was rare for bubbles to burst but reading mumsnet makes me think otherwise.

There’s only set work here for little ones if ‘the bubble’ bursts.

@Hercisback

We already had the infection before the vaccine. We didn’t have PPE for absolutely ages. And I’m sorry but delivering care to a service user who has an active covid infection (and they’re unvaccinated and can’t wear PPE due to severe LD) and still getting on with it without being hysterical is incomparable to the conduct of teachers throughout this pandemic. They have exposed how precious they believe they are.

Really? Someone needs to tell my kids teachers that it’s necessary to deliver remote learning when they’re off. Think they’ve forgotten that part of the guidance. It’s the same for every single isolation too so the old “they’re probably off isolating” chestnut is a load of crap.

It’s ridiculous... my child is self isolating for the 5th time doing their mental health so much harm ...

I should add they have high quality remote learning but being in front of a screen with no interactions with peers is rubbish

We already had the infection before the vaccine.
So did my colleagues last October/November.
Now some of them have covid even with one dose of vaccine.

I get it, you're frustrated with your child's school and therefore think all teachers are moaners. We really aren't. You have no idea what school has been like this year, secondary schools in particular.

Today for example we don't have enough staff to teach the students in the building, let alone the ones isolating. We're spread so thin it's unreal.

@AbsoluteMadness

Why are you having to be a teacher? DS2's class had online classes all week. 9-3

But you know not all schools are the same, right?
Between my 2 primary aged children they have had fewer than 10 live lessons each over the course of 2 school closures and 2 isolations.

Yes, I'm becoming more aware of this as time goes on, and it's shocking. Schools have had 2 lockdowns to get their act together. All the children in DS2's class brought their Chromebooks home last Monday (he forgot his so I had a half hour mad dash on Tuesday morning to pick it up from the office, no car and no buses running that way), then it was a full week of Zoom classes. I just had to be in the house and provide a snack for first break, and lunch. Actually less than I do at the weekends and in the holidays. My DC are also very lucky in that this is the first time that either of them has had to self-isolate with their whole bubble. I still think that it's utterly ridiculous that they have to self-isolate at all.

@TheLovelinessOfDemons our school have not done a single online lesson ever. I emailed the head this week to ask if they will please consider it and the answer is they have considered it but they have a long list of reasons why they won't do it. The head said if there is an autumn/winter lockdown they may do occasional 20 min online sessions with a teacher but no more than that.

So children at home went weeks and months without any contact at all with a teacher, and with parents having to talk them through the work, get them going and keep checking in with them. The idea that primary age children, even in years 5 and 6 but obviously it is harder the younger they are, can just be left at a laptop with a load of PDFs to get on with 4 hours of work is an absolute joke, but that is the schools line. If the child is stuck they can send an email, apparently.

Ive just commented on a similar thread, Ive just worked out my dc (yr 8)
Has had 12 days of schooling since 14th may and zero positive tests. I honestly can't see how it can carry on like this.

All the children in DS2's class brought their Chromebooks home last Monday

Just this sentence shows that your school is worlds away from ours! Is it a private school?

@heidipi

Sounds similar. Zero online lessons. Just bombed off with worksheets. Nothing differentiated, absolutely nothing marked. No work to be uploaded onto platforms. Zilch.

I’ve given it long enough now and will have to move mine in September so they can have a better remote provision. What they have now is honestly woeful. I literally sense the embarrassment from their teacher although in fairness taking instruction from the head no doubt.

My children have had SEVEN periods of isolation with worksheets. Sometimes the same ones.

Just pathetic.

Schools have been open every day of the pandemic with normal size classes, no ventilation, no distancing, no PPE, very long and stressful working conditions on top of that too. We’re all on our knees.

I know teachers that have died or passed it into their family members who have subsequently died.

If you think it’s such an amazing job and we’re having a great time in this pandemic then quit your job and come and join us.

@Chillychangchoo that's awful - ours is via Google Classroom, so you get a general "super work!" comment to completed stuff, but that's it.

It would be a massive upheaval to move schools but I certainly wouldn't recommend the school now (I had previously) on the basis of this. The response from the head actually said that they have a new teacher who came from a school that did online lessons, that teacher brought negative feedback with them, and that seems to be enough for them to decide not to do it. I just don't understand how some schools can do it and others won't. I understand the concerns (not all families have laptops, or are sharing laptops, so how can more than one child do online lessons at a time; safeguarding issues) but I don't get how some schools can overcome these issues and others can't. It's only a week this time and our other child is in school but I'm worried about what happens in autumn and winter - I actually feel like it isn't sustainable, yes it's crap for parents but it's much worse for the kids who are basically doing a correspondence course, hampered by their parents who don't know how to teach and are trying to work at the same time.