Son's year group off again???!!!

[ForeverSausages]

Year 1. Came out of self isolation on Tuesday. Just had a message again to say year 1 has to self isolate again. They've not told me when self isolation ends which is great. Is this normal? I'm losing my mind over the constant lack of education and unpaid time off work.

Gosh and he’s year 1 as well - far to young to be able to helpfully home learn or to cope with isolation.

This happened to us back when it was 2 weeks isolations, isolated for 2 weeks, he went back and 3 days later we were told his class needed to isolate for 2 weeks again😑

Bad ventilation, no masks, crowded classrooms and corridors, lots of people not using lateral flow tests or sending in children with symptoms. Staff getting ill.

All so predictable. Nobody listened to those working in schools.

David Blunkett in The Telegraph today-massive groundswell to stop children having to isolate. Probably too much to hope that it changes before the end of term tho’ ☹️

Also I'm not sure what you mean about me ire being misdirected @Barbie222? Genuinely asking. I think it's odd that an entire year is a bubble and that staff, pupils and parent's not having to wear masks

Well, who do you think is responsible for that decision making? That's who to blame, isn't it? We're in agreement here. Nothing can change unless new directives are given.

@Allmyarseandpeggymartin

www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jun/28/ministers-set-to-end-automatic-isolation-for-pupils-in-england

Fingers crossed! Solidarity op it is shit

Oh that's something positive to wake up to. Something's got to change as it can't carry on like this.

@ForeverSausages

A step in the right direction but I am interested to discover how they will implement daily testing? Didn’t we have this before and it was a complete shit show because it never worked?

I have zero faith for September.

Gosh. Now if only someone had thought to put staff working at schools higher up the list for vaccinations then maybe it would have been possible to avoid this.

There are still school staff who are only now receiving their first vaccine. If the government wanted schools to stay open they should have done more to protect the staff working in them.

I will also get flack for this but here goes - if parents wanted schools to stay open they could do more to stop their children mixing together out of school. Three secondary schools close to me with multiple year groups now out of school due to high rates of infection. The cause traced back to a party attended by several year 10 students for all three schools.

@singsingbluesilver

Ridiculous comment. I doubt stopping the mixing outside of school would make a blind bit of difference to the infection rates within school. It is going to spread regardless. Isolations will happen regardless. Teenagers have missed out enough on social interactions. The blame does not lie at parents feet here.

School staff who have only just had one vaccination are either A) quite young or B) not at all CV therefore statistically not at all at risk from covid.

Terrible I really feel for you

Repeated isolations are so bad for children, all whilst adults get up enjoy events

Really is a failing

Of course mixing anywhere will increase the chances of infection. Schools are not safe. They are poorly ventilated. People are close to each other for long periods of time.

But I'm sure that the cries for kids in school no matter what will continue. There are good reasons why many people are still wfh and why I have to jump through many hoops and safety measures before I can see a GP or dentist face to face. But school staff - nope - just put them in overcrowded, poorly ventilated building with hundreds of unvaccinated people for five days a week.

Schools should have been a priority from the start. The opportunity to make them safer spaces was lost for the very beginning.

If parents want to keep their kids safe then reduce the amount they mix.

@WaverleyPirate

Bad ventilation, no masks, crowded classrooms and corridors, lots of people not using lateral flow tests or sending in children with symptoms. Staff getting ill.

All so predictable. Nobody listened to those working in schools.

Talking about repeated isolations and suggesting they're happening because parents aren't doing lateral flow tests is nonsense. The bubbles are bursting because they ARE testing healthy,a symptomless kids who then take out a bubble. People need to stop. Tests should be for people with symptoms and should be PCRs.

@TeddingtonTrashbag

David Blunkett in The Telegraph today-massive groundswell to stop children having to isolate. Probably too much to hope that it changes before the end of term tho’ ☹️

Finally it’s being talked about

Too slow, but at least by next term it should be finishing.

[quote Chillychangchoo]@singsingbluesilver

Ridiculous comment. I doubt stopping the mixing outside of school would make a blind bit of difference to the infection rates within school. It is going to spread regardless. Isolations will happen regardless. Teenagers have missed out enough on social interactions. The blame does not lie at parents feet here.

School staff who have only just had one vaccination are either A) quite young or B) not at all CV therefore statistically not at all at risk from covid.[/quote]
Completely agree.

@Hercisback

Remember this next time you vote Tory. They put no extra measures in school and now it's finally becoming obvious to everyone that schools spread it.

I understand your frustration. Blame the government.

I didn’t vote Tory. Why are you assuming that all those who are concerned about the constant school isolations did? Weird comment.

@singsingbluesilver

Gosh. Now if only someone had thought to put staff working at schools higher up the list for vaccinations then maybe it would have been possible to avoid this.

There are still school staff who are only now receiving their first vaccine. If the government wanted schools to stay open they should have done more to protect the staff working in them.

I will also get flack for this but here goes - if parents wanted schools to stay open they could do more to stop their children mixing together out of school. Three secondary schools close to me with multiple year groups now out of school due to high rates of infection. The cause traced back to a party attended by several year 10 students for all three schools.

You have no idea how much or little the parents on this thread are allowing their children to mix outside school . People jump straight on to attack parents for a) voting Tory (I didn’t), b) letting their children mix loads out of school (I don’t) and all manner of other perceived crimes.

Well what do I know? I will just keep being concerned about the potential risks of covid to children who get it. I will just keep hoping that common sense prevails and that people do all they can to prevent it spreading. I will hope that staff don't contract it and that yet more school days will be disrupted because staff are off ill and there is no one available to replace them.

I am sure I read that the delta varient is highly contagious and that the fewer people you have close contact with the better. But I must be wrong. I'm sure that unvaccinated people partying is no risk at all.

@singsingbluesilver

Oh for goodness sake listen to yourself “schools are not safe” it’s a virus. It’s going to spread, it.is.here.to.stay.

Teachers have the option to be vaccinated.

I am a support worker I do not have the option of comfortably working from home. I am knee deep in shit many days of the week because I have to be. I am close to many, many service users each day. I have chosen to be vaccinated.

You’re absolutely right “the cries of kids to be in school no matter what” will continue, and they will get louder and louder because this needs to STOP. I mean really? “The cries of kids to be in school no matter what?”….. it’s more frightening that you think it’s strange for those cries to be getting louder.

Everyone needs to get on with it now.

You also seem to be implying that we had some say in whether teachers got vaccinated as a priority or not? I would have been all for it, sadly I have no sway over government policy.

I by no means assumed that posters on this thread allow their children to mix outside school. But from some of the replies it is clear that some parents think that their child's social life should not be curtailed. That being the case we must also accept that some parents are prepared to take the chance that they might pick up the infection that way.

I on no way implied that parents had any say in the list of priorities for vaccination. The decisions on this were firmly with the government.

I would have been all for it too. I worked as a TA back in the winter peak. I lost that job though due to my children’s isolations and the headteacher frankly just not giving a shit. Teachers should have been vaccinated at the same time as other key workers.

Fact is now they are being vaccinated/have been vaccinated. It’s time to get on with it now for September. Fingers crossed it actually happens but I have no faith currently.

@singsingbluesilver

I on no way implied that parents had any say in the list of priorities for vaccination. The decisions on this were firmly with the government.

Yes, the government I, and many other parents struggling with the the contact isolations, didn’t vote for.

@singsingbluesilver

I do not agree my child’s social life should now be stopped. It was stopped for long enough. If my kids bring the virus back to me then I’ll survive it, vaccinations are a wonderful invention.

School staff do indeed have the choice whether or not they are vaccinated. the point I made in my first post was if school staff could have been vaccinated sooner then they would have been safer sooner.

I am well aware it is a virus and that it will spread. My point is that is schools had been more of a priority from the start then we perhaps would not have had so much disruption to the education of our children.