Would you accept climate change lockdowns?

[Honey12346]

Climate change is a big problem and there has been talk about how lockdown has actually had a positive impact due to lack of flights etc. and how climate change lockdowns might be a thing in the future. Would you comply?

few days? yes

No. I do enough already by the car I drive and barely flying.

@MakkaPakkas

Non of them are about staying in the home

OP hasn't specified.

Focusing too much on carbon has other knock-on effects on other aspects of the environment. Reducing the flatulent livestock in fields also reduces natural organic matter into low-quality marginal land that is unproductive for arable crops. Monoculture is worse for biodiversity than grazing land.

The best answer is to reduce. Reduce unnecessary consumption (manufacture and disposal) of products, but that's not so good for the economy. Reusing and repairing is next, but until built in obselesence is dealt with, there's little the average consumer will practically do with that.

I'd cycle more if it was safe to leave my neighbourhood without a choice of very circuitous routes or narrow, busy 40mph/ NSL roads. Also if I felt safe to lock my bike up and feel confident that it remains in a state to be ridden home. Billions are being spent on HS2 carving up the countryside, but most people have little practical choice in how they get about on tight schedules and with luggage/ children.

I've been interested in the environment for 30 years, but there are too many people with agendas controlling the dialogue at present. Too many hypocrites jetting around the world regularly telling the plebs that they're wrong for their annual short-haul holidays for example.

Flying and cruises are a massive carbon contributer.
Happy to sacrifice air travel for the sake of the environment, as we already have transitioned to a low carbon foot print way of life.

@VaccineSticker

Flying and cruises are a massive carbon contributer. Happy to sacrifice air travel for the sake of the environment, as we already have transitioned to a low carbon foot print way of life.

To be frank flying and cruising is one of life’s pleasures and naturally not a necessity but for in person togetherness for family and friends dotted around the globe. In addition by necessity the UK being a relatively small but crowded island is not self sufficient for food production (and most manufactured products) and so there will be an element of distant food miles by sea, rail or air. Perhaps for air travel new technologies for greener flying will hopefully materialise soon. In addition although not the most robust proposition but these international travel and leisure businesses are a significant income stream for many developing world economies. The economic versus environmental argument!

@VaccineSticker

Flying and cruises are a massive carbon contributer. Happy to sacrifice air travel for the sake of the environment, as we already have transitioned to a low carbon foot print way of life.

So don't fly or cruise.

Absolutely not.

Several Chinese cities operate a scheme where 20% of petrol/diesel cars are banned from driving in the city each day. It has helped tremendously with pollution and congestion, which is the primary reason for it, but it will also affect climate change. When atmospheric conditions indicate high pollution is expected, the ban is increased to 50% until the weather improves - which has so far been needed for 2-4 days about once per year.

Working from home or changing from a 5-day week to a 4-day week would help schemes like this.

I would absoutely leave the country permanently for something like this, rather than live my life that way. I would flee.

*If they were serious, they wouldn't be fucking about with EV, they d go straight to Hydrogen.
EV are terrible for the environment.

They'd also do something about plastic production, recycling and clear up.

I'm afraid it's all lip service and PR*

My thoughts entirely, the environmental impact of mineral mining for batteries is devastating but hey... Plebs must never use diesel.

Absolutely no to climate change lockdowns when the world's biggest polluters have zero accountability whatsoever and continue to burn fuel like there's no tomorrow

Simply, no. Not in a million years.

I dont go abroad.
Im childfree by choice. I dont drive.

so No Fucking Way.

@WayOutOfMyDepth...just browsing through my insomnia and am strangely aroused by the suggestion that I am fucking Attenborough in theface.

Does that make me a bad person? 😁. It does feel slightly treasonous to now have vague sexual thoughts about the nation's favourite great grandad.

I will still keep my 16 year old (diesel) car for my 70 mile round work commute through our dying rural landscape. Unless sugar daddy David wants to cough up whatever eye watering amount you need for an expensive hybrid.

It's lovely to be rich enough to have principles...(not aimed at you! You've made me laugh 😊)

"How would disabled people get about?"

Yes Ds cannot use public transport at all. Unless people like watching others hurt themselves.

Would I stay home from time to time, to save the only known planet with life? Um, yes? I’m horrified at the number of people here who wouldn’t.

No.
At least not until major corporations/polluting countries start to do their bit.
It’s be the same old story - the average person has their freedoms curtailed while the rich can still gallivant about like there’s no issue?! No chance.

Um, yes? I’m horrified at the number of people here who wouldn’t.

But is it an effective response to the problem, or just a lazy knee jerk, now that we’ve decided lockdowns are a ‘thing’?

I see plenty of things we could all do to lower our carbon emissions. But no reason at all why we should locked ourselves in our homes.

I can’t help but think that the only way to take positive, permanent action is to move away from capitalism.

While we are trained and brainwashed to be good little consumers, buying tons of shite we don’t need - all imported and probably ends up in landfill - we probably won’t be able to make a dent in it. Money still makes the world go around after all.

That and a meaningful reduction in meat/dairy consumption. I just can’t see how staying at home a little more often, recycling your milk cartons and driving a hybrid will make any kind of meaningful dent.

I’m also skeptical as to exactly how helpful the pandemic has been for the cause…. The massive rise in single use plastics and masks, bottles of hand sanitizer, disposable wipes, the tons and tons of plastic needed to make Covid tests (all imported from China, of course) not to mention packing from vaccines etc.
Then there is the increase of people ‘ordering in’ - take away, just eat, shopping deliveries, Amazon….

Climate lockdowns are not a serious suggestion- they’re a Fox News conspiracy theory. There are so many reasons they won’t work, primarily because in order to do things like ban cars you need to have an alternative and that if that alternative exists then you’d encourage permanent change, not a quick fix. You can’t just switch this stuff on and off like a tap. Also it would be economically ruinous and because the countries causing climate change are best positioned to withstand it, why would they do it?

I think there are substantially more sustainable ways to tackle climate change.

Not much point telling everyone to stay home if they just turn their gas central heating/fans/air conditioning on, ramp up their electricity usage and order lots of things on Amazon until their money runs out and they start to riot.

Capitalism is the root to the problem but unfortunately ‘it’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism’,

Some people won't even put their rubbish in the bin. Think we're a long way of this level of self sacrifice

@IloveSooty424

Capitalism is the root to the problem but unfortunately ‘it’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism’,

Absolutely this.

We won't have lockdowns to limit our carbon footprint. However, I'm fully expecting to be in self imposed lockdowns in the coming decades to limit my exposure to extreme weather events, awful air pollution and future pandemics.

I think we've fucked it.