Would you accept climate change lockdowns?

[Honey12346]

Climate change is a big problem and there has been talk about how lockdown has actually had a positive impact due to lack of flights etc. and how climate change lockdowns might be a thing in the future. Would you comply?

(you can cycle, no matter if you live off a windy A-road in northern Scotland where it's dark and wet a lot of the year)..

Yep. And don't come at me with disabilities. We want resilience.

Can you read? I said in urban and suburban areas.

Can you be any less rude? Plenty of suburban areas don't have good transport links and/or low income people move out to them as cannot afford rents.

Electric cars are not made in an environmentally friendly way.

@PattyPan ah ok, yes I agree with overuse of vehicles in built up areas and push for other forms of transport in those areas, I work in community nursing covering a large rural area so really do need my car

Didn't we just just have a G7 which addressed climate change? the VIP's flew in on private jets, 23 tons of food over ordered, a Red Arrows show , an Aircraft carrier on display.

Doesn't sound like much of an emergency to me.

And ofc everyone knows that people in the countryside never go into town. Why would they, when there's a perfectly good post office open two hours a week with a whole shelf of tinned goods costing £50 each and only a year or two out of date, just the next village along five miles away. And no bus.

Yes 🙌

@osbertthesyrianhamster I’m not switching to electric until I have no other options. My house is set back off the road and I have no drive so not ideal for charging I would need to run extension cables from my house up a path and out onto the pavement to my car. I also think electric/battery cars will be the next diesel as well but that’s just my opinion

Yes I would, and I look forward to any research on the climate undertaken during that very brief time when the world was almost still.

As I've not been able to afford a foreign holiday in the last 15 years or so I literally couldn't give a shit. If they are talking about banning holiday flights then it won't affect me.

And if you can find a way to get me to my job 35 miles away in a rural county without public transport then I'll give up the car.

All set to be the next diesel if we keep building executive apartments with no parking at the rate we currently are, for sure.

I haven't flown for almost twenty years, don't own a car and have adapted my behaviour in all sorts of other ways to limit my climate impact, so I would not be happy to be unable to leave my house as well!

@AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii yes, that’s an example of a time when card are a necessity. I’d probably give you a discount on an electric car as well.

@osbertthesyrianhamster whereas the manufacture of standard cars is so good for the environment? Obviously this would be accompanied by public transport improvements and ideally copy Luxembourg and make public transport free. Paid for by savings not needing to fix so many potholes and sew up so many people after car accidents.

How would disabled people get about?

Hell to the fucking no. The govt would have to allow assisted suicide alongside lockdowns as I would rather be dead.

@MadMadMadamMim

As I've not been able to afford a foreign holiday in the last 15 years or so I literally couldn't give a shit. If they are talking about banning holiday flights then it won't affect me.

And if you can find a way to get me to my job 35 miles away in a rural county without public transport then I'll give up the car.

Someone will suggest you cycle or find a carshare with a colleague who lives near your rural area and works the same shifts. So practical. Or the helpful 'Can you move?'

@WayOutOfMyDepth

And ofc everyone knows that people in the countryside never go into town. Why would they, when there's a perfectly good post office open two hours a week with a whole shelf of tinned goods costing £50 each and only a year or two out of date, just the next village along five miles away. And no bus.

You don’t need to drive into the town centre though - park and ride is a pretty well-established concept.

Yes. Do a cycleshare. Have you thought about the environment @MadMadMadamMim or are you happy with fucking Attenborough in the face just so you can get to work? You monster.

If they were serious, they wouldn't be fucking about with EV, they d go straight to Hydrogen.
EV are terrible for the environment.

They'd also do something about plastic production, recycling and clear up.

I'm afraid its all lip service and PR.

You don’t need to drive into the town centre though - park and ride is a pretty well-established concept.

God, yes, in every area, there's a fucking park and ride! 😂 Rural areas so known for such.

Cycle to the park and ride and then pay for it, you bastards.

*riguetomato

There's definitely more insects in our garden, especially bees. We have more birds coming to our garden. Nature is thriving. *

Here too 😃
Last few years have been woeful for bees, butterflies and ladybirds. Our pear and apple trees have produced maybe 40% of their usual fruits but already this year, bees and ladybirds in abundance.

@osbertthesyrianhamster

You don’t need to drive into the town centre though - park and ride is a pretty well-established concept.

God, yes, in every area, there's a fucking park and ride! 😂 Rural areas so known for such.

Is it not clear to you that these are potentially workable concepts I think the government should implement, not my assessment of how every single town in the UK currently functions? I don’t hear any smart suggestions coming from you either.

I would yep. But I don't think it would work. If regular schedules lockdowns were expected then businesses would plan for them eg schedule the planned flight for the week after. I am hoping though that a few of the good behaviour changes stick, that people kick up if they have to go into the office 100% for no real reason, that people carry on appreciating their local green spaces, and keep shopping in the local greengrocers and butchers instead of the big supermarkets. I hope.

Probably not and more because I do not have expert knowledge in this area to accurately analyse and make evidence based judgements and choices.

Initial thoughts are bigger picture ie the most populous and consumer orientated nations consume most of the global resources and also responsible for most ecological challenges. The developing world aspirations and lifestyle choices and importantly living standards are somehow not ecologically “allowed” to be realised (even if eco moderated) because other advance economies already had their share causing the main global environmental damage.

I am also perplexed by the constant hypocritical barrage of high profile high net work ultra consumers preaching ecological restraint for others while practising maximum unlimited excessive carbon indifference. This makes no sense unless these celeb high net worths practice what they preach and not from über privileged backgrounds jumping on the fake green washing bandwagon thinking they are virtuous while private jetting around the globe talking about rainforests or poverty in Africa etc and not understanding how hypocritical they are. Looking at you select British royalty as for instance having at one point captured a third of the globe can now seemingly play the guardian angel does not cut it! This green awareness should be lead by trusted high profile scientists with expert knowledge, purity of conscience and not living an overtly excessive unsustainable lifestyle. Such figure would in the English language world include such David Attenborough.

Green moderation starts at home but it starts with most impact from those accustomed to causing greatest personal ecological damage!

I had no idea I was beholden to offer suggestions to randoms on the internet, Patty . Is everything in life so personal to you? What a way to live.

*. . . these are potentially workable concepts I think the government should implement, not my assessment of how every single town in the UK currently functions?'

What you think the government should implement is obviously not clear to anyone unless you make it clear, no one can read minds. So go ahead and push the government to do what you want. No one is stopping you.

Every little thing we do is impacting climate change.
If we want to have less cars on the road, then we needs better, cheaper and reliable public transport.
Like pp said, if the top of the country want us think about our impact on climate change, they need to show us a good role model.
But I a very interested in it, I would love to make a difference for my dc's future, so we are learning about it together, watching videos and talking about it.
Instead of saying fuck off, if everyone can think about what little thing they can do, it will have a positive impact, imo.