Would you accept climate change lockdowns?

[Honey12346]

Climate change is a big problem and there has been talk about how lockdown has actually had a positive impact due to lack of flights etc. and how climate change lockdowns might be a thing in the future. Would you comply?

@Getmoveon14 so what about work? Most people are travelling to and from work? Or to and from supermarkets, dropping kids at school etc? Different if you can walk your child to school but then again most people head straight to work after drop off

@newnortherner111 how would carbon allowance work? Would this only apply to flights or every car journey you make also?

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

Yes I’d love to give up every last bit of freedom and watch India and China open 3 new airports!

This. UK is small fry compared to some other nations belting out fumes etc. Even if we were totally carbon neutral, it would not make a difference over all. Drop in the ocean.

Covid will look like a light breeze compared to climate change, unfortunately.

yeah that's what my brother who's a specialist in the sector says 😪

Yes

As long as they include the impact of having children.

You could fly long haul every month and your carbon impact is less than having even one child so the child free can pretty much do what they like and their impact is far less than those with large families.

Would agree a personal carbon allowance would be a better approach. It needs to be fair, it needs to restrict the wealthiest in society, (businesses and individuals) as well as those less well off.

Problem with lockdowns is they disproportionately affect certain vulnerable groups.

Limit the amount of children to one would help a lot, though that never seems very popular.

@WayOutOfMyDepth thanks, he’s now changed his route home for the third time (following previous near misses) so hopefully it won’t happen again. Otherwise I will be lobbying our MP to try cycling it and see how he gets on!

@09AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiii I guess like in the covid lockdowns there would have to be exceptions such as for people who needed to drive to work. However with a bit of encouragement many could leave their cars at home. I know I would cycle more if there were fewer cars on the road and many people did get on their bikes in lockdown. Ultimately I think we need to move to a world where most people can walk (or use sustainable transport) to get to work.

@LightasaBreeze

Limit the amount of children to one would help a lot, though that never seems very popular.

Yes, as someone who has only chosen to have one child I get pretty irritated when parents of multiples start lecturing about going on flights.

You’re right to identify number of children as a huge driver of a person’s carbon footprint. Contraception is already free but I think we should make it easier to access. It’s really difficult to get an appointment to get the coil fitted around here because not all GP surgeries offer it and you can only get free condoms at GUM clinics I think. They should give basic ones for free at pharmacies and maybe even supermarkets and then people would just have to pay if they want more fancy ones. I don’t know what the the U.K. stats are but I think I read that half of babies in the USA are unplanned

@LightasaBreeze

Limit the amount of children to one would help a lot, though that never seems very popular.

Ultimately it is the total consumption of finite resources with associated ecological damage. People ie us humanity is the root cause but also the root solution. If we do hypothetically reduce the number of consumers and importantly also the consumption per head we can start to address the basic environmental economics. However continued population growth needs every smarter marginal ecological efficiency to off set the increased total consumption. This is a human race between balanced sustainable consumption and environmental destruction. If we cannot limit the number of consumers we will need to fairly limit the consumption per head.

As long as we are all making suggestions, I would support limiting meat consumption because I don't eat any. Just as the childfree would support limiting children. And the non-fliers would support limiting flights.

See how that works?

I only use my car for work, absolutely need it to work in rural community nursing, to get my children to school with living rurally etc. I get my shopping delivered so outside of work and the odd days out I really only use my car for work and school runs. I cannot do my job or drop my kids off on a bike or using public transport

And until electric cars become cheaper, better range, faster charging and I have a house with a drive then electric is no good for me

I also don’t take flights, recycle and have meat free nights

I don't have a car either so I would support limiting cars.

Global disparity in carbon footprints, since a lot of inaccurate information about India has already been posted ( as always happens on here) India has every right to built new airports when its footprint is so small.
www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/01/chart-of-the-day-these-countries-have-the-largest-carbon-footprints/

Absolutely not.

@MareofBeasttown

As long as we are all making suggestions, I would support limiting meat consumption because I don't eat any. Just as the childfree would support limiting children. And the non-fliers would support limiting flights.

See how that works?

It needs to be a bit of everything though doesn’t it? I don’t think the government would get enough support to ban anything outright (or for a lockdown) but they might for reducing a bit in all areas. In this case maybe bans for meat advertising and government canteens (including schools other than SEN schools?) to be meat-free might be first steps. I don’t eat meat either and IME people are more defensive about that as their cars so would be very politically challenging.

@Honey12346

Climate change is a big problem and there has been talk about how lockdown has actually had a positive impact due to lack of flights etc. and how climate change lockdowns might be a thing in the future. Would you comply?

Do you mean would I accept a stay at home order?

No.

@MareofBeasttown

As long as we are all making suggestions, I would support limiting meat consumption because I don't eat any. Just as the childfree would support limiting children. And the non-fliers would support limiting flights.

See how that works?

😂😂 Exactly As a childfree person, I'd be delighted to impose one child per person.

But in reality, if you gave me the dictator role, I wouldn't do it.

This report shows roughly what people in the UK want to do. A key value is democracy. www.climateassembly.uk/report/

Non of them are about staying in the home