Would you report a multi household holiday?

[Rosie65834]

UK holiday booked in a rented house for 10th July with 4 households/8 people. The group is conflicted about whether to cancel given the extension of the rules. If the holiday is cancelled it won't be possible to rearrange.

If you owned a holiday let, would you check or care?

If you lived next door to one, would you report a multi household holiday?

Theoretically, the group could say they are 2 households. Would anyone challenge it?

No one really reports that kind of thing anymore do they?

There are a few on this thread who would.

I couldn't care less and hope you all have a nice holiday OP.

You could wear masks and stay socially distanced from each other. Pretty damn ludicrous at this point tbh. I would though all do lateral flows just before setting off to be on the safe side.

I wouldn't, but surely the owners will know how many of you are going? Isn't it still max of 6 indoors at the moment? So I don't think saying you're two households would help.

to answer the question though, I wouldn't report. But I'd be a bit anxious if I lived in a tourist destination, I think? The holiday let owners might also check, though it sounds like they might just be leaving it up to the booking company in which case you'll probably get away with it.

I don't think you should do it, personally, but it sounds like you probably can get away with it.

Some people might be tempted to report, but wouldn't. It's the owner/manager of the holiday accommodation I'd be concerned about.

We did this in half term. 3 households. No one checked. We did have to confirm to the letting people by email that we were 6 people or 2 households, but we lied.

The households are all linked by childcare (one of the households provides childcare to the other two) anyway so we thought it was low risk as we all must be exposed to each other's germs anyway. Plus 4 out of 6 adults had been double vaccinated. We had a lovely time. DS got to see his cousin properly for the first time in over a year.

@psychomath

I wouldn't, but surely the owners will know how many of you are going? Isn't it still max of 6 indoors at the moment? So I don't think saying you're two households would help.

Nope:

in a group of up to 6 from any number of households (children of all ages count towards the limit of 6)

in a group of any size from up to two households (each household can include an existing support bubble, if eligible)

No - it’s just the holiday company covering themselves. Don’t worry about it.

@Flaxmeadow

I would be amazed if a hard pressed holiday let company raised questions on this..like many holiday businesses they need the cash and will be grateful for the business.

Holiday let's are fully booked and are having to turn people away all the time. They don't need to break the rules and would probably prefer customers who didn't either. A holiday maker can walk away after a week, it isnt their business on the line. Same in retail, pubs, restaurants etc, who will have also gone through the rules with a fine tooth comb

Not sure I agree. Bookings will have been taken from 21st onwards for large groups, (ten plus people), and if these are declined I do not think businesses will necessarily find it easy to replace such a large group. For August it would be much easier, but not for early July. In a rural area, risk is minimal and if I were the OP or the holiday let owner I would not be changing my approach.

@Overthebow

I think it would be very selfish to do this as it’s a holiday let. It’s someone’s business that you’re putting at risk. What you do in you’re own home is fine, and I haven’t exactly stick to all the rules, but don’t do this when it could affect someone’s business. Especially as they've been closed and lost money for so long.

It’s not going to have any impact on their business. They have sent OP a letter and that covers them.

No!

Property owners are obliged to keep names/addresses of paying guests for track and trace. As a property owner myself I have received reminders from the govt in the past about not allowing multi household groups. We also have reminders from our booking agency.

Are you planning to turn up together? If the owner is aware they potentially have an obligation to cancel (without refund)? I’m not sure if max numbers are guidance or actually a legal requirement at this time? If the latter you could be on slightly dodgy ground

@Rosie65834

UK holiday booked in a rented house for 10th July with 4 households/8 people. The group is conflicted about whether to cancel given the extension of the rules. If the holiday is cancelled it won't be possible to rearrange.

If you owned a holiday let, would you check or care?

If you lived next door to one, would you report a multi household holiday?

Theoretically, the group could say they are 2 households. Would anyone challenge it?

Personally I don't care but as a holiday cottage owner yes I'd check and I'd cancel you if I thought you did not comply ( refund or move - your choice).

It's not worth the risk of a £5000 fine for me.

Plenty won't care though

I wouldn’t report but if I was the owner and I found out I would either tell you not to come or if you were there tell you to leave. Purely in case I was fined

I wouldn’t report anyone.

However, I do live in a holiday area and the COVID police are still very much alive and kicking round here.

Mind you, they tend to be the types who hate tourism at the best of times and bang on endlessly on Facebook about people who drive cars that don’t have the local registration plate (whilst ignoring the fact that most of us don’t drive cars with the local registration) so COVID is just a convenient excuse.

I think it’s wrong to do so because you put the owner’s livelihood at risk and they could get a massive fine.

I wouldn't report it but I wouldn't attend it.

You are putting the property owner in a difficult position.

no. couldn't care less

@Gladimnotcampinginthisweather

You are putting the property owner in a difficult position.

This.

And whilst I wouldn't personally report, my feelings today are a little clouded by the fact that I have a 19 year old in bed, absolutely floored by Covid (Delta). Wouldn't wish it on anyone, and we have followed the rules very carefully.

No. Just all take tests before you go.

My neighbours have broken the lockdown rules on rumerous occasions and I wouldnt dream of reporting them because I loath snitches.

On one occasion my two nephews arrived to fix a fault on the security system - allowed even in the first lockdown because it was an essential job. My busybody neighbours wanted to know who they were - even though they were sittinbg in the garden with visiting family members (including children) breaking the rules themselves.

They got a snippy reply and we tested the alarm 10 times in 2 hours.

It’s a sad state of affairs when people are reporting on each other. We aren’t living in China during the Cultural Revolution. Yet.

The person who said about being nervous if you lived in a tourist destination, I do agree with that

That’s not me saying I’d report, as I think the bubbles are madness when kids are at schools, siblings others etc. However it’s the massive movement around the country that will potentially spread it.