#ImDone trending on Twitter

[Workyticket]

Not sure how Boris can stand up tonight and ask us to wait 'just another few weeks' after his antics this weekend.

Nor after seeing the scenes at countless pubs where people were celebrating the footy results

I'm 100% done now

[quote User72642]@Thewiseoneincognito and would you not leave your house when you had a cold or flu either? Would you avoid public transport and the workplace? Because I am immune-suppressed and catch respiratory infections every year from trains and the workplace.[/quote]
First of all I do not use public transport so there’s no issue there. I am also fortunate to work in a place with excellent ventilation and isn’t overcrowded.

A cold or flu doesn’t carry the risk of debilitating a vulnerable person quite as much as Covid otherwise you would have been under shielding advice before the pandemic.

So I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make apart from insinuating protecting the vulnerable is something to be frowned upon? It strikes me as odd that you’re questioning my integrity for wanting to be cautious?

@garlictwist

There's been a big outbreak of covid this week at my work - it's spread like wild fire and even (double) vaccinated people have tested positive. So sadly I don't think it's over.

As far as I know the vaccines don't stop you getting it. They reduce the severity of illness and reduce the chances of passing it on. So with mass testing we are going to see lots of vaccinated people testing positive, particularly if they're around un vaccinated people.

[quote sparemonitor]@TheVampiresWife trigeminal neuralgia yes - that's one of the very few genuine exemptions. Respiratory conditions generally aren't, neither are most skin conditions, neither is anxiety for the vast majority of people -when gently requested that they try, people are able to. I would say genuine trigeminal neuralgia and severe PTSD related to the face e.g. from an oral rape, plus some with autism/LD and that's about it.

In my job I have access to people's health records and so far 100% of those that have claimed to be exempt have no exemption.[/quote]
Why are you rummaging through staff health records? 'Access to' does not give you the right to have a snoop.

@esterwin

You are applauding someone drunk on a Monday afternoon?

Yes, great for pubs to get Monday afternoon revenue. If the same poster said that morning, afternoon and night every day for the week then it's more appropriate to suggest a day off, but drinks can happen on any day. There's nothing particularly special about going out drinking only on a busy Saturday night, people have different availability to go out.

@sparemonitor I hope you are only accessing peoples records you have a professional need to do so. I am sure you know the rules surrounding IG and accessing peoples records when they aren't your patient or under your department and I hope if you are, someone reports you for it.

@MRex

A bunch of double vaccinated people being tested every day, of course the G7 were all safe at an outdoor event. If they weren't able to feel safe at that point then we're all really screwed.

Waiting a few weeks to allow those in their 20s who have not been offered a jab yet to get a jab and build some level of immunity seems fair to me. They have gone through the same restrictions and deserve the same protections as older people. Letting cases reduce will also protect children, who can't be jabbed and also don't want covid. Masks are actually about protecting your fellow citizens, and aren't mandatory outside. Enjoy the sunny weather and be patient for a few weeks.

People in their 20s are not dying or being hospitalized from Covid! Over 98% of Covid deaths and hospital admissions have been for over 60s!

The lockdowns were to protect spiralling deaths and hospital admissions overwhelming the NHS.

The daily death rate is in single figures and the NHS are no where near been overwhelmed.

The indiant variant could be 100000x more transmissable, if thousands arent dying or being admitted to hospital, WHO GIVES A SHIT?

A cold or flu doesn’t carry the risk of debilitating a vulnerable person quite as much as Covid otherwise you would have been under shielding advice before the pandemic

Flu can be fatal for people who are immunosuppressed due to illness or medication. In precisely the same way as covid is.

Why weren't you on MN demanding their protection in 2019?

@MRex

A bunch of double vaccinated people being tested every day, of course the G7 were all safe at an outdoor event. If they weren't able to feel safe at that point then we're all really screwed.

Waiting a few weeks to allow those in their 20s who have not been offered a jab yet to get a jab and build some level of immunity seems fair to me. They have gone through the same restrictions and deserve the same protections as older people. Letting cases reduce will also protect children, who can't be jabbed and also don't want covid. Masks are actually about protecting your fellow citizens, and aren't mandatory outside. Enjoy the sunny weather and be patient for a few weeks.

Excellent post as always @MRex

I’m more worried about the economy and young people’s mental health at this point.

I used to work nights. At the time I lived in a place with 24-hour liquor laws. We used to go out for post-works drinks at 8am

[quote sparemonitor]@TheVampiresWife trigeminal neuralgia yes - that's one of the very few genuine exemptions. Respiratory conditions generally aren't, neither are most skin conditions, neither is anxiety for the vast majority of people -when gently requested that they try, people are able to. I would say genuine trigeminal neuralgia and severe PTSD related to the face e.g. from an oral rape, plus some with autism/LD and that's about it.

In my job I have access to people's health records and so far 100% of those that have claimed to be exempt have no exemption.[/quote]
Why would there be a section in someone's medical record saying they are exempt from wearing masks? Until June last year, masks were not an issue, and no reason for them to be mentioned in someone's notes.

The bigger question is why are you having a proper rummage through other people's medical records? You sound incredibly judgemental.

You also realise that not all rape/DV is known to a GP.

[quote MRex]@bumbleymummy - please stop assuming that everyone wants what you want. Some in their 20s want to be jabbed, it's only days to let them be jabbed.[/quote]
And they are more than welcome to isolate themselves, bleach their shopping, quarantine their post, use cheese in their coffee and whatever else they want to do to feel “safe” until they get their shot. Lifting restrictions is not a government order for everyone to pack themselves into a stadium or attend every wedding in the country, it’s about allowing the majority to get on with things, if they wish. And for grown adults to make their own risk assessments. You know, choices. Remember them?

@TheVampiresWife

A cold or flu doesn’t carry the risk of debilitating a vulnerable person quite as much as Covid otherwise you would have been under shielding advice before the pandemic

Flu can be fatal for people who are immunosuppressed due to illness or medication. In precisely the same way as covid is.

Why weren't you on MN demanding their protection in 2019?

What exactly is your point?

@MrsHastingslikethebattle it’s not just elderly people dying of it. In the latest week of ONS data (week ending 28th may) the majority of deaths (68.4%) involving covid were from under 65s.

Is this what we have descended to? People angry with a piece of cloth that they use for few minutes in the shops?
The biggest relaxation move was the 12th of May ( not sure about the exact date).
Life is back to normal as far as the majority are concerned, while a tiny vocal minority are barking mad that we aren’t proceeding.

SMH.... what do you want? Go back to lock down by august? I would like my second vaccine thank you very much, and so does my neighbours who haven’t even got their first yet and they are asmathics and have other underlying health conditions but not invited until recently.
Me me me... I’m fed up with this selfishness. We are so damn lucky to have these vaccines when the rest of the world is begging for them. Entitlement at its best. Sickening attitudes.

I'm not seeing any 'covid deniers' on this thread.

Covid denial isn't just posters denying the virus exists. It is also those denying the potential of the virus to overwhelm health and other services. Denial that the virus could mutate, in the unvaccinated and vaccinated, into an even worse variant. There is still, after all this time, a stubborn and impatient inability to comprehend just how serious the situation is and this thread IS rammed with covid deniers and so is the whole coronavirus board now. Personally i'm not "done" with this virus because this virus isn't "done" with us, unfortunately

@MrsHastingslikethebattle - it's impressive that you found my post to challenge it, yet missed posts by people in their 20s who would like to be jabbed. It's really important to remember that some of those young people didn't get into group 6 for asthma, previous myocarditis and other illnesses; yet they feel just as vulnerable as those in their 30s/40s/50s with those same conditions. Then there are many in their 20s who have friends who've had covid and simply don't want the long term symptoms they've seen. Some others have vulnerable family or friends they want to protect. Whatever their reasons, it's very clear that many of them really want the jab to protect themselves and others. If cases were still low then great the risk is low, but unfortunately they aren't, so let's get to the herd immunity point as quickly as we can rather than screw it up and overshoot, with all the extra long-term illness and deaths that will cause.

Because I cannot count the number of times I had to work with a cold (both in hospitality AND in NHS clinical, patient facing roles roles) because it was that or get sanctioned for sick time. I even got told to come in once after asking my WARD MANAGER for advice because it was "just a cold"...... which turned out to be bacterial pneumonia!!

They obviously had loads of people queuing up for your job then! Take responsibility for your health and the health of others. Personally I would hate having someone sneeze/wipe their germs into or onto my glass of wine. Or muck about with my oxygen mask, feed me when sniffing etc.

Certainly wouldn't happen now though.

@osbertthesyrianhamster. Good for you. Make sure you enjoy every second of it. Im quite jealous!

Can anyone really look at this photograph and not understand why people are pissed off with the hypocrisy?

@thevampireswife exactly

I've cried over coffee with a friend today at the unfairness of it all.

Certainly wouldn't happen now though

I wouldn’t bet any money on that.

Life is back to normal as far as the majority are concerned, while a tiny vocal minority are barking mad that we aren’t proceeding.

But it’s not back to normal, is it? It’s not.

People ARE making considerable sacrifices to their lives and their jobs and so on for all this. They have done for over a year now and while this might look like some people’s pre-covid lives, it certainly doesn’t for many many many others. How does it help to minimise that sacrifice, to pretend like everything is just fine and normal?

I do think we need measures to keep a lid on delta but I can absolutely see why people are fed up, are at breaking point, are not going to buy any more ‘just another few weeks’ from the government, and I don’t see why tutting at them for not loving masks and restrictions is remotely going to help.

@osbertthesyrianhamster

Life is back to normal as far as the majority are concerned, while a tiny vocal minority are barking mad that we aren’t proceeding.

But it isn't back to normal for those who work in the hospitality and entertainment industry. It's far from normal for those who are unable to make enough money to survive and who have businesses that are unlikely to survive another 4 weeks of restrictions.